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Hillary Challenges Both McCain and Obama on Iraq

Posted by Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report at 3:12 PM on March 17, 2008.


It's likely Clinton's speech will get lost in a very busy news cycle, but any criticism of McCain on Iraq is a welcome and positive development.
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I did a radio show yesterday, and the host asked me, “If you were Hillary Clinton’s top campaign strategist, what would you tell her to do right now?” I said, “Go after McCain with a vengeance.”

Throwing the kitchen sink at Obama helped deliver wins in Ohio and Texas, but the campaign has not fundamentally changed this month — Obama continues to pad his delegate lead and pick up more superdelegates. Clinton, I argued, can change the dynamics by dropping the attacks against Obama (which too often spur a backlash anyway) and targeting McCain exclusively. It would help her present a different kind of case to superdelegates: “Forget the math and the numbers, and look at how well I can take on the Republican nominee.”

Today, at a speech at my alma mater, Clinton did one of the two — she went after both McCain and Obama. (I can’t find the whole speech online, but the campaign posted an outline of the Clinton plan for Iraq today, and put a brief excerpt of the address on YouTube.)

From the start of this presidential campaign, the consensus among most Democrats is that the war in Iraq was an issue that was problematic for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York. She voted to authorize the war, Senator Barack Obama of Illinois spoke out against it from the start, and Democratic primary voters overwhelming oppose it. The war was an issue that Mrs. Clinton, presumably, would need to finesse.
But Senator Clinton moved today to try to turn that assumption on its head. She delivered a speech in Washington dedicated completely to the war in Iraq, saying she would begin withdrawing troops from Iraq within 60 days of taking office, should she win. And she attacked both Mr. Obama and Senator John McCain of Arizona, the likely Republican nominee.
In attacking Mr. McCain, Mrs. Clinton noted that he had at one point said he would be comfortable with the United States having a presence in Iraq for 100 years. With Mr. Obama, she noted that Samantha Powers, a former senior foreign policy adviser, had been quoted as telling a British newspaper that Mr. Obama’s schedule for withdrawal outlined on the campaign trail would not be what he would necessarily follow in the White House.
“One choice in this election is Senator McCain, who is willing to keep this war going for 100 years,” Mrs. Clinton said. “You can count on him to do that. Another choice is Senator Obama, who has promised to bring combat troops out in 16 months. But according to his foreign policy adviser, you can’t count on him to do that.”

Now, it’s likely that the Clinton speech will get lost today in a very busy news cycle, but the criticism of McCain on Iraq is certainly welcome and a positive development.

Frankly, outside of the debates, I have a hard time thinking of recent high-profile examples of Clinton taking on McCain directly. Much to my disappointment, I can actually think of more recent examples of her praising McCain, and suggesting he was better prepared for the presidency than her Democratic rival.

But today, Clinton was more focused on the GOP nominee, which I hope we’ll see more of.

Mrs. Clinton used her speech, delivered at George Washington University, to argue that the so-called surge in Iraq had not worked, pointing to the fact that the same number of troops will be on the ground in Iraq once it ends as was there before the troop increase. And she signaled way she might use the issue against Mr. McCain - who was in Baghdad this weekend - should she win the nomination, linking Mr. McCain to Mr. Bush and the conflict that both men championed.
“Despite the evidence, President Bush is determined to continue his failed policy in Iraq until he leaves office,” she said. “And Senator McCain will gladly accept the torch and stay the course - keeping troops in Iraq for 100 more years if necessary. They both want to keep us tied to another country’s civil war - a war we cannot win. And that, in a nutshell, is the Bush-McCain Iraq policy: Don’t learn from your mistakes, repeat them.”

Good. Keep talking about “the Bush-McCain Iraq policy.”

As for Obama, Clinton’s criticisms seemed to have focused on two points:

1. Samantha Power, who already stepped down from the Obama campaign, told a BBC interview recently that Obama’s 16-month withdrawal plan is a “best-case scenario.” This, Clinton argued today, means that Obama can’t be relied upon to get the troops out.

2. Obama may have opposed the war from the start, but he didn’t vote to cut off funding until he became a presidential candidate.

On the first, Clinton’s right, Power did say that about Obama’s withdrawal plan. (Power also noted, accurately, “You can't make a commitment in March 2008 about what circumstances will be like in January of 2009.”) The flip-side of this is that a Clinton advisor said something very similar about Clinton’s own withdrawal plan.

On the second, it’s a little awkward for Clinton to argue, “Don’t vote for Obama; he voted the same way I did on Iraq funding.” For that matter, all of this simply reminds Democratic audiences that Obama got the big question about Iraq right, and Clinton didn’t. (Obama responded today, “Because of that vote, we have fought a war that has cost us thousands of lives and will cost us a trillion dollars. Because of that vote, our troops have fought tour after tour after tour of duty, and their families have sacrificed so much at home. Because of that vote, we are less safe and less respected at home. It’s not just a speech - it’s a war that should’ve never been authorized, and should’ve never been waged.”)

Nevertheless, Clinton went after McCain forcefully. Note to both campaigns: more of this, please.

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Steve Benen is a freelance writer/researcher and creator of The Carpetbagger Report. In addition, he is the lead editor of Salon.com's Blog Report, and has been a contributor to Talking Points Memo, Washington Monthly, Crooks & Liars, The American Prospect, and the Guardian.


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Hillary, Hypocrite ...
Posted by: gazooks on Mar 17, 2008 3:32 PM   
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... opportunist and liar.

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Hillary lies
Posted by: RobNLA on Mar 17, 2008 5:13 PM   
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Hillary claims she expected Bush to use diplomacy when she voted to authorize him to use force against Iraq.

First we know this is a lie. In her speech for the vote, she plays hawkish and makes it clear she supports the use of force. Now that the war is unpopular she has tried to paint a different picture.

But then did she even learn from her mistake years later? No, last September she voted to label the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization, going along with the aggressive war-prone foreign policies of the Bush Administration.

So if Bush decides that bill gives him the green light to start a preemptive attack on Iran, will Clinton again back pedal and claim it was a vote for diplomacy?

Hillary keeps getting more desperate as time goes on. Hopefully she starts looking so bad that when her reelection for US Senate fails in New York.

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A message to the Clinton campaign
Posted by: Spot on Mar 17, 2008 8:49 PM   
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Withdraw with what dignity you have left, Senator. We Pennsylvanians are tired of the distractions of your campaign. Your sponsors and your mealy-mouthed triangulation ensure that if you are the winner, the people who vote for you will not have their views represented. Your credibility as a Democrat is lost behind years of center-right voting. Your campaign has never had the high ground on issues of domestic policy. Your foreign policy platform just plain sucks.
You undermine your party's viability by remaining a candidate when it is impossible for you to gain enough votes to go into the convention the presumptive nominee.
Stop trying to add delegates to the mix. It is insulting to the people who have already cast their votes that you don't feel their voices are adequate. Stop trying to court superdelegates. It offends me that if the at-large public will not back you, you will turn to a fabricated elite for support.
The success of your husband's presidency was a result of his charisma and the good fortune of the times. You do not have his charisma and these are not those times.
Please, just go back to your home.

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.Haters
Posted by: mkdelta69 on Mar 18, 2008 6:25 PM   
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One trick ponies.

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Clintons Papaers
Posted by: angelofdeath on Mar 19, 2008 11:14 AM   
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THE TORRES-VIGNALI CONNECTION is explored in detail in a congressional report that resulted from Pardongate, when revelations surfaced that President Clinton granted clemency for Carlos Vignali Jr. — convicted of drug trafficking and sentenced to 15 years in federal prison in 1995 — along with other convicted criminals and one-time international fugitive Marc Rich. The granting of clemency occurred after payments were made to Clinton’s brother-in-law, Hugh Rodham, the brother of former first lady, New York state senator and 2008 Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Released in March 2002 by the congressional Committee on Government Reform, “Justice Undone: Clemency Decisions in the Clinton White House” details Hugh Rodham’s involvement in the Vignali affair, as well as the long business history Vignali once shared with George Torres.

The report takes to task top L.A. elected officials, including county Supervisor Gloria Molina, then–state Senator Richard Polanco, then–state Assemblyman Antonio Villaraigosa and U.S. Representative Xavier Becerra, among others, for lobbying on behalf of Vignali Jr., in light of his drug conviction and the fact that DEA agents long suspected Vignali Sr. to be involved in drug trafficking — along with Torres. While a member of the California state Assembly, Villaraigosa wrote the first letter on Vignali’s behalf on May 24, 1996.

In particular, L.A. Sheriff Lee Baca and former U.S. Attorney Alejandro Mayorkas were heavily criticized for lobbying for Vignali Jr.’s clemency. The report found the input of Baca and Mayorkas to the White House to be “instrumental” in the decision to grant clemency to Vignali Jr., who at his drug-trafficking trial in 1994 confirmed a close family association with Torres. Attorneys for Torres told the Weekly in 2005 that the association between the Vignalis and Torres has long since ended

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