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From Ferraro to Wright, We Must Address Race and Gender Ignorance

Posted by Jane Hamsher, Firedoglake at 6:48 AM on March 17, 2008.


A failure to do so may find us looking at a resurgent GOP this fall no matter who the Democratic nominee is.
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I've been struggling with how to write about the Geraldine Ferraro and Reverend Wright incidents. They both involve difficult and complex issues that aren't always going to be fairly explored by people viewing race and gender solely through a lens of candidate advocacy, and that makes the climate for discussing them difficult.

I was very impressed with what Obama had to say on that front:

Obama: I do think there is an overlap in the sense that there is a generational shift that is taking place and has constantly taken pace in our society. And Rev. Wright is somebody who came of age in the 60s. And so like a lot of African-American men of fierce intelligence coming up in the '60s he has a lot of the language and the memories and the baggage of those times. And I represent a different generation with just a different set of life experiences, and so see race relations in just a different set of terms than he does, as does Otis Moss, who is slightly younger than me. And so the question then for me becomes what's my relationship to that past?

You know, I can completely just disown it and say I don't understand it, but I do understand it. I understand the context with which he developed his views but also can still reject unequivocally. . .

Tribune: You reject his views, you won't reject the man. Is that it?

Obama: Yeah, exactly. And this is where the connection comes in. I mean, I do think that Geraldine Ferraro, the lens through which she looks at race, is different. . . . She's grown up in different times. The Queens that she grew up in is, I'm sure, a different place than it was then. Just as Chicago is a different place than it was then.

Obama casts Wright and Ferraro as people whose evolution and politics have root in a different time. He shows both vision and leadership in this analysis. And those who would rather take the discussion into "candidate surrogate gotcha" are, I think, doing so at all our peril.

I watch the TV these days and I see that the image of the Democratic party is quickly morphing from the party of economic justice or the party that will get us out of Iraq into the party that wants to return to the identity politics wars of the 70s. Because the Democrats have largely sat back and been content to watch the Republicans self-destruct rather than step out in a leadership position on issues that could have positively defined them, they're vulnerable to being cast thusly. It's a big turn-off to most Americans that shrewd GOP political operatives and cooperative media have been quick to seize upon.

Talking about race and gender is important. Finding a way to do so responsibly, with appropriate context -- and not simply as a way to tear each other down -- is equally important. A failure to do so may find us looking at a resurgent GOP this fall no matter who the Democratic nominee is.

And at that point, we all lose.

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Jane Hamsher is the founder of FireDogLake. Her work has also appeared on the Huffington Post, Alternet and The American Prospect.


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I'm from that older generation
Posted by: gjohloc@hotmail.com on Mar 17, 2008 7:09 AM   
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And I understand the time and context in which Rev Wright gets his understanding of race. I was not a supporter of Obama in the beginning. My feelings were that he was a youngster who didn't really understand what was suffered on his behalf. And then I heard G Ferraro and all of those old feelings came back. She made me ashamed. She made me see what we were doing to the younger generation. We were forcing them to fight past battles instead of living in the NOW and planning for the future. We need fresh new ideas and ways of thinking and solving problems. We won't get that with Hillary. If she is like me, she will fall back on what her life long lessons have taught her. Her wisdom may be relevant for life but her experience is not relevent for today. I'm voting for Obama because I see it as voting for the future of America.

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Wright is right and wrong is wrong
Posted by: nfamous on Mar 17, 2008 7:43 AM   
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I'm not from that older generation and I agree wholeheartedly with Dr. Wright's comments. What exactly did he say that was untrue? All he did was tell the truth and white people don't like it. White supremacy is a cancer upon this planet and will probably bring about our ultimate destruction in the near future. Hillary doesn't know what it's like to be called "nigger". The US does kill millions of people overseas, directly and indirectly, generating enormous ill-will and resentment in the world of Americans. We got off easy on 9/11 (although I know for a fact it was our government that perpetrated these attacks). America is in deep denial. Our mantras about freedom and equality in the Declaration of Independence are empty rhetoric that have yet to be put into genuine practice.

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» pfft! us versus them Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
» RE: Wright is right and wrong is wrong Posted by: gjohloc@hotmail.com
The way to write about this stuff is not to write about it
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Mar 17, 2008 7:44 AM   
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On a scale of things, it's nonsense. Both these people are irrelvant and don't deserve any press at all. We'll never get by the race/gender thing if we allow nobodys to get all this coverage for stoking the ashes. Clinton & Obama should both put themselves above this fray. She's a woman and He's black. So be it. Keep in mind that this kind of trashing could be coming from the Republicans. We shoud stop buying into it. Thanks, ANNA

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Finally, an intelligent post
Posted by: herronsmith on Mar 17, 2008 7:51 AM   
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This article is exactly what we all need to hear. We can't ignore our generational bias' but we need to look forward and see our future through the lens of a younger generation. Kudos to Jane.

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We NEED class warfare
Posted by: truthteller on Mar 17, 2008 9:35 AM   
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I'm spoiling for it. I want to see it. I want to see these rich, old, white men hanging from the nearest tree for the way they have raped the working class the past 25 or so years. Like the above poster, I have no major disagreements with what Rev. Wright said. Sen. Obama should not have thrown his mentor under the bus.

I don't believe we will get what is needed with either major Democratic candidate. We would have gotten it with Dennis Kucinich, and maybe with John Edwards. The corporate powers took them out of the picture early on by ignoring and marginalizing them.

I am calling for those who truly want structural change to make a stand and send the Democratic establishment a clear and unambiguous message this Fall by voting for the Green Party candidate, probably former GA Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney. The current elites need to lose power - by losing office. There needs to be a total purge of the leadership of the party. Those in San Francisco need to get behind Cindy Sheehan's independent campaign to take down Speaker Pelosi for not acting to get us out of Iraq and "Taking impeachment off the table".

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This is ridiculous
Posted by: happyhermit on Mar 17, 2008 11:16 AM   
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Obama is using age to assuage racial fears. "Only those older blacks are crazed and out for vengeance."

Obama is only 5 years younger than Al Sharpton. is that a "generation?" And plenty of "younger" blacks are pretty pissed-off at the Man as well. Obama's argument makes no sense.

But he can't really point to the real motivations behind this stuff. the first is probably true: that's it's not age, it's Geography. i'm not of the "he's not black enough" school, but he did grow up with white grandparents and moved to hawaii and singapore and then harvard. maybe that accounts for some of his willingness not to launch a racial crusade.

but citing Age makes more political sense, and i don't denounce him for it. we can believe IN him (if you want), without actually believing the bullshit marketing trope he needs to conjure in order to frame the racially-charged images being trumpeted by his petty detractors.

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» RE: This is inaccurate ... Posted by: gazooks
» RE: This is inaccurate ... Posted by: happyhermit
» RE: nonconformist, eh ... Posted by: gazooks
The Truth
Posted by: magistre on Mar 17, 2008 6:46 PM   
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Yes, Reverend Wright uncovered one truth in the "American Society" and see how quickly the Political/News Commentators scurry to sweep it "under the rug,again"!

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The real work of Clintons
Posted by: angelofdeath on Mar 19, 2008 2:51 AM   
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THE TORRES-VIGNALI CONNECTION is explored in detail in a congressional report that resulted from Pardongate, when revelations surfaced that President Clinton granted clemency for Carlos Vignali Jr. — convicted of drug trafficking and sentenced to 15 years in federal prison in 1995 — along with other convicted criminals and one-time international fugitive Marc Rich. The granting of clemency occurred after payments were made to Clinton’s brother-in-law, Hugh Rodham, the brother of former first lady, New York state senator and 2008 Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton.

Released in March 2002 by the congressional Committee on Government Reform, “Justice Undone: Clemency Decisions in the Clinton White House” details Hugh Rodham’s involvement in the Vignali affair, as well as the long business history Vignali once shared with George Torres.

The report takes to task top L.A. elected officials, including county Supervisor Gloria Molina, then–state Senator Richard Polanco, then–state Assemblyman Antonio Villaraigosa and U.S. Representative Xavier Becerra, among others, for lobbying on behalf of Vignali Jr., in light of his drug conviction and the fact that DEA agents long suspected Vignali Sr. to be involved in drug trafficking — along with Torres. While a member of the California state Assembly, Villaraigosa wrote the first letter on Vignali’s behalf on May 24, 1996.

In particular, L.A. Sheriff Lee Baca and former U.S. Attorney Alejandro Mayorkas were heavily criticized for lobbying for Vignali Jr.’s clemency. The report found the input of Baca and Mayorkas to the White House to be “instrumental” in the decision to grant clemency to Vignali Jr., who at his drug-trafficking trial in 1994 confirmed a close family association with Torres. Attorneys for Torres told the Weekly in 2005 that the association between the Vignalis and Torres has long since ended

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