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Obama Speaks Out on Faith, His Church and His Pastor Rev. Wright

Posted by GottaLaff , Cliff Schecter's Blog at 3:06 PM on March 14, 2008.


Obama says, "Here is what happens when you just cherry-pick statements from a guy who had a 40-year career as a pastor."
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Quick notes: Richard Wolffe was interviewed by Randi Rhodes:

Wolffe: Regarding the Obama/Wright matter. Obama wrote about it for Huffington Post.  He's made himself pretty clear on this.

[Here is an excerpt from a different interview that HuffPost linked to:]

Obama: This is a pastor who is on the brink of retirement who in the past has made some controversial statements. I profoundly disagree with some of these statements.
Q: What about this particular statement?
Obama: Obviously, I disagree with that. Here is what happens when you just cherry-pick statements from a guy who had a 40-year career as a pastor. There are times when people say things that are just wrong. But I think it's important to judge me on what I've said in the past and what I believe.

Obama's exclusive Huffington Post piece is here. Please read the whole thing. Excerpt:

Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue.
Because these particular statements by Rev. Wright are so contrary to my own life and beliefs, a number of people have legitimately raised questions about the nature of my relationship with Rev. Wright and my membership in the church. Let me therefore provide some context.

Randi: Tell him, Richard, to say: Religion is a private matter, where you go to church has nothing to do with how I lead the country.

Wolffe: That would be hard for him to say. He says the Democrats haven't done a good job in the public square, politicians shouldn't be led by their religious leaders, but he recognizes that faith is a motivating factor for most people and Democrats should be respectful of that. Religion and politics aren't completley separate. He's not saying his faith should be imposed on others, either.

The angry clips of Wright: The context is, the Trinity United Church of Christ is a white denomination... You're more likely to be embarrassed than intimidated, more likely to get hugged, they're a bunch of hippies.

Next: Wright, for all this stuff, he is widely considered within the black churches and theology, to be a man of integrity, incredibly moderate in spite of what you see here, an academic with a political edge to him, a pacifist, albeit a fiery speaker. He retired before he was too old to carry on, and he didn't pass it on to a member of his family, but a son of a civil rights icon... It's not a controversial or radical church. I caution about watching a couple of clips and thinking this is what he's like. 

Randi: [paraphrased] This kind of talk doesn't belong in church though.

Wolffe: I respect that, but Wright's message was a mixture of community activism, black church, and social responsibility, plus traditional white evangelical thought about self help. In politics, he started out talking about South Africa, and then all the way to Iraq, he's anti-war. Politics is always a part of his message.

Randi: This is a direction the churches are going in, which I don't agree with. I agree with Thomas Jefferson, preserve separation of church and state in the Constitution. Even Martin Luther King took it outside to the steps of the capitol. You can have a political view, but keep it out of the church. 

Wolffe: I understand entirely. But I've been to churches, and synogogues where rabbis have spoken repeatedly about Israel... He's not unusual, it's very widespread. Wright has no influence on Obama on his politics. Understand,  the problems that church faces on the South Side: HIV AIDS, job training, etc.  If this church doesn't provide for its community, who is going to? When you have a troubled community, it's inevitable that the leader of the church will speak out on issues. 

Barack Obama agrees with you, Randi, that condemning America is unacceptable in any form.

Obama:

Most importantly, Rev. Wright preached the gospel of Jesus, a gospel on which I base my life. In other words, he has never been my political advisor; he's been my pastor. And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn. [...]
Let me repeat what I've said earlier. All of the statements that have been the subject of controversy are ones that I vehemently condemn. They in no way reflect my attitudes and directly contradict my profound love for this country.

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GottaLaff is a regular blogger for Cliff Schecter's Blog


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Is Randy Rhodes On Crack?
Posted by: desidid on Mar 14, 2008 4:08 PM   
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Her comment that MLK took his message outside the church is totally uninformed. And it wasn't the work of one church but, many Black churches and pastors, Jews, and the NAACP. But the movement sprung from the pews. Why do you think 4 little girls died in a church bombing?

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Another 1,000 percent solution
Posted by: jim_altman on Mar 14, 2008 5:05 PM   
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Obama vehemently denounces anything that anyone says that's controversial. Why should he single out his pastor for special consideration? So much for prophetic vision, eh?

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Before the Cock Crows
Posted by: jim_altman on Mar 14, 2008 5:09 PM   
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How many times will Barak denounce his Pastor before dawn? Simon Peter denounced his three times. Maybe it was worth 30 pieces of silver or maybe just 30 superdelegates.

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» RE: Before the Cock Crows Posted by: OldRedleg
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» RE: Before the Cock Crows Posted by: OldRedleg
This proves it.
Posted by: Longdream on Mar 15, 2008 5:32 AM   
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This proves that all of the blatant religionists who use Christ's teaching as a blunt instrument never set foot inside a Church. If they did, then according to the values they espouse, they hear hatred that makes Wright's words seem sweet and mild.

I go to Church. And I'm not in a Protestant denomination, either, I'm in the Old Church, the first one--Orthodoxy.

Neither I nor anyone I know is taught that we have to live and die by the homily or the sermon, which is the minister, or the priest's chance to apply his own thoughts to what happened in Church according to the liturgical year. We do not have to get up and go out robotically to follow the priest's words, although they are supposed to relate the liturgy to our lives.

Anyone who is criticizing Obama for those words of his pastor is coming from the Spin Zone of the Desperate. And they had to dig deep for those words--the pastor had a long career.

I'd like to see someone play a typical sermon by Pastor Wright, on a typical Sunday. And then another one. And then another one. Not chosen for propaganda purposes, but just because we'd like to get to know him.

I cringe when I have to see Obama deny this man, who is a much loved figure in his church, but Obama is obviously up to it, and is doing a fine job in spite of the bottom-feeding critters trying to hit him with slime.

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» RE: This proves it. Posted by: foreverhope
» RE: It'll be ok, Hopie. Posted by: Longdream
» RE: It'll be ok, Hopie. Posted by: foreverhope
Who REALLY blindly follows their church?
Posted by: DivaDeb on Mar 15, 2008 10:32 AM   
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Yeah, uh, I know LOTS of Catholics who use birth control, despite the church's sermon on that, and know some who have had abortions. Just like a 12-step, you take what you want and leave the rest behind.

When I was a fundy, I still swore, had premarital sex, etc. I know plenty of students at the local Christian College have sex and drink, etc. We're all sinners, even against what the bible is saying - let alone what the preacher is saying. So, who thinks an entire congregation goes home and does exactly what their church/preacher says? Free thinkers, anyone?

Maybe that is what is kinda scary about this . . . that there are those out there WHO DO! Maybe THEY assume all attendees do as they are told? And those people can vote. And will they vote as their church/preachers says? THAT is what is NOT supposed to happen.

Funny thing, though, as a (white) civil rights activist who has also attended gospel services (in the Army - one more hour away from the barracks!), I didn't see anything wrong with what he was saying or how he was saying it. Michael Moore and others have said some of the same things. We can love the country, and hate the policies. I think he was actually saying that. "God Damn the USA" and I think he means for being racists, having racists policies, etc. I can see the context and I hear what he is saying. AFter 9/11, I said the same thing - we were so immune to war and terrorism, despite what we took to other countries, despite what we've done abroad, and it was about time we started feeling the pain of the rest of the world.

Nobody wants ANYONE to die like that or experience that, yet our policies and tactics make others suffer around the world on a daily basis. Black America suffers daily - anyone who follows civil rights knows this. Poor America suffers daily.

I LOVE Randi Rhodes, by the way - I love the Friday song "Bounce Your Boobies!" - makes my day. There is a fine example of a strong woman who speaks out. LOVE HER! But, I don't blindly believe everything she says, don't blindly agree with everything she says.

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» The real sinner...... Posted by: foreverhope