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House Passes New Surveillance Bill, Sans Telecom Immunity

Posted by Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report at 5:16 PM on March 14, 2008.


This is all very encouraging and a welcome example of congressional Democrats standing up to Bush on a matter of national security.
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Well, I don’t imagine the White House is going to be pleased.

A deeply divided House approved its latest version of terrorist surveillance legislation today, rebuffing President Bush’s demand for a bill that would grant telecommunications firms retroactive immunity for cooperation in past warrantless wiretapping and deepening the impasse on a fundamental national security issue.
Congress then defiantly left Washington for a two-week spring break.
The legislation, approved 213-197, would update the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to expand the powers of intelligence agencies and keep pace with ever-changing communications technologies.
But it challenges the Bush administration on a number of fronts, by restoring the power of the federal courts to approve wiretapping warrants, authorizing federal inspectors general to investigate the Bush administration’s warrantless surveillance efforts, and establishing a bipartisan commission to examine the activities of intelligence agencies in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

And, of course, the legislation passed without retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies that cooperated with Bush’s warrantless-wiretap program. As the WaPo explained, “Instead of granting them immunity, as the Senate has, the House measure would send the issue to a secure federal court and grant the telecommunications companies the right to argue their case before a judge with information the administration has deemed to be state secrets.”

This was all very encouraging — and a welcome example of congressional Democrats standing up to Bush on a matter of national security, Republican demagoguery notwithstanding.

What happens now? Paul Kiel offers a lay of the land.

As for what’s next, it’s over to the Senate where it’s sure to undergo some modifications. In a statement earlier this week, Senate intelligence committee Chair Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) said that “considerable work remains” on reconciling the House’s latest version and the Senate version. Rockefeller said he’s willing to adopt a number of the House’s provisions, including a much shorter sunset (2 years) on the law, but notably omitted the topic of immunity. Rockefeller supports blanket immunity for the telecoms.

The Senate is certainly a different place. Today, 12 House Dems voted against a bill that does not contain retroactive immunity (and some of those were from liberals like Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH). Last month in the Senate, 18 Dems voted against an attempt to strip retroactive immunity from the Senate bill.

If you’re interested, here’s the roll call.

The Speaker’s happy; Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is happy; the ACLU’s happy; and EFF is happy. This is so much better than the outcome I expected as recently as a few weeks ago, it’s hard to measure.

Not a bad day on Capitol Hill; kudos all around.

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Steve Benen is a freelance writer/researcher and creator of The Carpetbagger Report. In addition, he is the lead editor of Salon.com's Blog Report, and has been a contributor to Talking Points Memo, Washington Monthly, Crooks & Liars, The American Prospect, and the Guardian.


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Secrets
Posted by: QQOblivion on Mar 14, 2008 2:48 PM   
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Bush won't be satisfied until he knows every little piece of minutia about all of us, until he knows our very thoughts and fears and dreams, until he knows every deep dark secret each of a possess. (Yes, we ALL have something to hide.)

But, simultaneously, he does not want any of HIS OWN secrets, like which laws he broke, to ever be discovered.

I have a feeling the final bill to be signed by the president will give away much more of our privacy than we should ever feel comfortable giving away. Hell, that's the status quo right now. The bill will make the situation far worse.
And, if I had to bet, my money is on that the final bill will give Big Telecom all the immunity it could ever desire. The Dems, as is their MO, wouldn't have it any other way in the end.

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Poor little georgie. His veto crayon is gonna melt all over his "grown up" costume
Posted by: gallery on Mar 14, 2008 4:15 PM   
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This is a good step, but I'm not doing cartwheels just yet.

I'll be happy when evidentiary hearings against the telco's implicate both bush and cheney, and their ambulance chasing shyster, gonzo. Only then can the ACLU bring a suit against them for ILLEGAL, and unwarranted wiretapping.

BTW, I love that pic of chimpy. He looks like he's hocking up a giant loogie to launch at those who dare to question his O-THOR-RI-TAY......

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Could it be true?
Posted by: buddyedgewood on Mar 14, 2008 6:13 PM   
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That somebody's testicles have finally dropped, and they're starting to use their majority rule in the House? Now all we need is the Senate's ballz to distend next. Only then will GWB & Co be castrated and fully emasculated into lame-duckness and obscurity...

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» RE: Could it be true? Posted by: willymack
er umm er new map i see road map
Posted by: flymulla on Mar 15, 2008 4:49 AM   
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House Passes New Surveillance Bill, Sans Telecom Immunity
Posted by Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report at 1:05 PM on March 14, 2008.
Mr. Bush. “I will veto this” we cannot afford any more R&D at this time of the night . Better find another way to check all the airline, trucks, cars, papers, TV, net, but this , I refuse I will veto this. And let me remind you I will use my power to stop the running away dollar as much as I can while I am in the office. I do know many like Economist and other English papers (KAL) have drawn cartoons of my working, but I am reorienting millions of Latinos who are to receive the house that went with the Katrina, the houses reposed by the banks. I want to give this back to the rightful owners, their children will remember me . I want to be remembered like many presidents who have had no affairs with ladies. I am a clean one at that. Er um . We will draw another map for this also

I thank you
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And For Other Purposes...
Posted by: johnjmccarthy on Mar 15, 2008 7:41 AM   
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To amend the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 to establish a procedure for authorizing certain acquisitions of foreign intelligence, and for other purpoes(?)

What does this mean? What else could it mean but "domestic" intelligence? Wow, that should be classified as 'rediculous'. Is anyone cleared for such secrets? Those who dissent or question MUST fit this catagory. Perhaps this includes the Internet since it is global in nature and outside (so far) big brothers control but not surveillance.

Just for grins, lets look at the communications dick cheney had on 911...surely the NSA was listening in....without a warrant! Can't be used in court but it sure would be nice to know, even at this late date.

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basket warrants
Posted by: DrXyzzy on Mar 15, 2008 7:41 AM   
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The highly unpopular issue of immunity for telecoms was dropped from the latest House FISA bill, but basket warrants - warrants that state neither the targets of the search, nor the facilities that will be accessed - remained part of the bill. And pending civil cases against telcoms - which threatened to open the Pandora's box on the extent of administrative malfeasance in the surveillance story a la Watergate - may now proceed with key evidence reviewed by the US judge in secret, without plaintiffs (or concerned citizens) present.

So, there is still work to be done. The ongoing reversal of privacy for the people and transparency in government may have been slowed, but it continues.

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Not Over Til The
Posted by: drsivana99 on Mar 15, 2008 9:40 AM   
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I should think that the very concept of "retroactive immunity" would be abhorrent to anybody with even a grain of sense. Just pause for a moment and reflect on how frightening it really is. If Bush got it passed this time, do you think it would end there? It is absolutely imperative to our survival as a free society that we draw the line at this insane Orwellian abomination.

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» RE: Not Over Til The Posted by: willymack
Finally Congress has grown some ball!
Posted by: indepentent on Mar 15, 2008 10:51 AM   
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Keep up the good work!

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What's that low, burgeoning, almost inaudible sound I'm hearing...
Posted by: DreamFast on Mar 15, 2008 11:18 AM   
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...coming from Washington DC?

Could it be Congress...finally growing a pair?

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HURRAY!!!!!
Posted by: using on Mar 15, 2008 1:30 PM   
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Lets hope this the beginning of better times..and our democractic representatives and all other reps in favor of a free country will realize their obligations to our democracy and their elected position.

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How low the bar has come down!
Posted by: Quannah on Mar 16, 2008 8:13 AM   
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That we can all be celebrating a bill like this! It's still a surveillance bill that allows them to listen in on us! Don't be fooled by the fact that they aren't including immunity! They shouldn't include immunity - ever. But they shouldn't even be listening in the first place.

This is still an expansion of the surveillance powers of this administration. I, for one, refuse to celebrate this as a victory!

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