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How Can Hillary Win the Nomination With Fewer Votes and Pledged Delegates?

Posted by Jennifer Nix, Huffington Post at 5:16 AM on March 5, 2008.


The question is: At what cost to the rest of the Democratic party, and the nation?
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EDITOR's NOTE: This post was written before the March 4 results were in. Hillary's wins were not large enough for her to make any significant gains in the overall delegate count and she still trails by several hundred thousand in the overall popular vote.

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When a top Hillary Clinton advisor predicted on February 16 that his candidate would "lock down" the Democratic nomination, called the number of elections and delegates won by Barack Obama "irrelevant," and later characterized the race as "wide open," it occurred to me that in the homestretch to March 4th, and what could be the decisive primaries, Clinton's campaign is relying heavily on magical thinking.



These bold statements, from longtime Clinton cohort Harold Ickes, demand subscription to the notions that if superdelegates are willing to flout what is currently Obama's lead in the popular vote and pledged delegates, and Clinton manages to get the renegade Michigan and Florida delegates seated at the convention--and wins either Texas or Ohio, then she will land the nomination for the presidency.



This reasoning is pinned at present on diaphanous evidence, threatened lawsuits and some audacious fear-mongering. It is rooted in the Clinton campaign's emotional investment in a host of great expectations--to finish what Clinton started on the health care front in the 90s, to restore the Clinton legacy, and to elect the first woman president in U.S. history-- ideas which have lost their luster in the Democratic, and perhaps American psyche, since those golden days of inevitability.



As Joan Didion wrote in her memoir, The Year of Magical Thinking, about her mental and emotional state after her husband's sudden death, this kind of thinking can set in when grief is too great to bear, and one cannot deal with the reality of death. "I had entered at the moment it happened a kind of shock in which the only thought I allowed myself was that there must be certain things I needed to do."



With Clinton's inevitability turned to dust and her losses in eleven straight contests pointing to the likely end of her campaign, the candidate and her staffers are busying themselves with ominous tasks to fend off the shock.



The question is: At what cost to the rest of the Democratic party, and the nation?


Robert Pinsky explained in the New York Times that magical thinking "creates needs, interdictions, omens: I need to be in the one city where the dead person would return, if he came back; I cannot give away certain of that person's shoes; the dead sea gull and the typo and the undeleted e-mail message are signs. That internal voice, 'magical thinking' denying its own desperation, whispers that the funeral ritual will restore what is lost. It says that reading the obituary would be a betrayal."



In the final days before March 4, the Clinton campaign was frantically making straw man arguments about disenfranchised voters, wildly trying to change expectations and firewalls, rattling the lawsuit saber in Texas, and airing spurious television ads that raise the specter of nuclear attacks. Her advocates are also working furiously to keep and court more superdelegates. The candidate herself, however, made a public request that superdelegates wait until after Texas and Ohio to publicly announce who they'll support at the convention, in an effort to stem the tide of elected officials and party power-brokers defecting to her rival, Senator Barack Obama, or moving from her pledged support column to undecided.



Despite this request, as of Friday at least thirteen superdelegates had publicly announced a distancing from Clinton, including Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) who formally announced last Wednesday that he was switching his influential support from Clinton to Obama, while DNC member and California superdelegate John Perez has switched from supporting Clinton to undecided. As he told the AP, "Given where the race is at right now, I think it's very important for [superdelegates] to play a role around bringing the party together around the candidate that people have chosen, as opposed to advocating for our own choice." Senator Chris Dodd's endorsement of Obama last week is also a harbinger of more supedelegate support to come, according to several party activists and observers, who pointed to the fact that five of these superdelegates announced their support for Obama on Friday.



According to the widely-cited blog, 2008 Democratic Convention Watch (DemConWatch), of the 794 superdelegates currently up for grabs, Clinton does have pledged support from 240 superdelegates to Obama's 191 (the New York Times reported the candidates' own estimates on Friday as 258 for Clinton and "more than 200" for Obama), but superdelegates will not actually vote until the national convention. There are no rules forcing them to vote according to their current pledges, and if Obama were to attract no more Clinton supporters and he gets even half of the remaining unpledged superdelegates, which current trajectories support, he will surpass Clinton in the overall delegate/superdelegate count and win the nomination. (Wouldn't it be nice if this madness would end before we have to start counting unpledged add-on delegates?!)



Then, there is the Michigan and Florida aspect of the Clinton campaign's magical thinking.



Clinton and her supporters believe that the delegates from the renegade primaries, which Clinton "won" (in Michigan because she was the only candidate on the ballot and in Florida where candidates had agreed not to campaign), should be counted. They believe this despite the DNC's August 2007 ruling that these states' delegates would not be seated, as punishment for Michigan and Florida moving up their primary dates. And they adamantly believe the votes should be counted as is, rather than via new contests, as currently suggested by the DNC.



In an interview that aired last Thursday on Texas Monthly Talks, Clinton said she intends to press the issue that Florida and Michigan delegates be seated, despite the widespread belief that she signed a pledge to the contrary. Magical thinking has Clinton and her staffers convinced they are right, even though every other Democratic candidate clearly understood and accepted the DNC ruling at the time, and it strains credulity to think that Hillary Clinton would have misunderstood the intention of the agreement, particularly when none other than her advisor (and delegate expert) Harold Ickes voted in August to strip Florida and Michigan of their delegates as a sitting member of the DNC Rules and Bylaws committee.



"I signed an agreement not to campaign in Michigan and Florida. Now, the DNC made the determination that they would not seat the delegates, but I was not party to that," Clinton said. "I think it's important for the DNC to ask itself, Is this really in the best interest of our eventual nominee? We do not want to be disenfranchising Michigan and Florida...Senator Bill Nelson, of Florida, early on in the process actually sued because he thinks it's absurd on its face that 1.7 million Democrats who eventually voted would basically be disregarded, and I agree with him about that."



While it is true that Nelson did file a suit in a Florida district court, the case was lost in December, and there is little hope that any other court will tamper with the party's inner workings on this matter; it will likely remain a matter for the DNC credentialing committee. In a letter dated February 8, NAACP Chairman Julian Bond petitioned the DNC to seat Florida and Michigan delegates on "civil rights" grounds, while opponents of this theory, such as the Reverend Al Sharpton (currently neutral on the endorsement front), say it would be a "grave injustice" to change the agreed-upon rules now, and that such a claim should have been made months ago, before the primaries were held--not after.



"To raise that claim now smacks of politics in its form most raw and undercuts the moral authority behind such an argument," Sharpton wrote in his own letter to the DNC.



Lost on Clinton supporters, in their magical-thinking determination to have the wins in Florida and Michigan represented in her delegate count, is the fact that these delegates still do not put Clinton in the lead. According to DemConWatch, even with the renegade delegates added into the mix, Clinton would still trail Obama in pledged delegates going into Ohio, Rhode Island, Texas and Vermont, by a count of 1211 to Obama's 1255 delegates.



This brings us to the final point in Clinton's magical thinking about her chances, in which the candidate scoffs at mathematical impossibilities and believes that winning Ohio or Texas will give her the juice to become the Democratic nominee.



As recently as Thursday, Clinton operatives were still pushing the argument that Clinton could win one or both of these two delegate-rich states. The latest polls in Ohio do show Clinton ahead, but only by 47 to 45 percent. And, as the polls changed Thursday night to reflect that Obama is now ahead of Clinton in Texas by 48.2 to 41.7 percent, the Clinton campaign started crying foul about that state's hybrid primary/caucus election system (which has been in place for decades), and is making noise about suing the Texas Democratic Party.



The Clintonites believe that Obama does well in caucuses, so their magical thinking tells them that caucuses must be stopped. According to author and activist Glenn Smith:



"It is widely assumed that Obama's organizational advantage will achieve in the caucus portion of the Texas election just what it has achieved in earlier caucuses: a significant victory in delegates. There are 67 delegates at stake in those caucuses. The Clinton campaign would like to delay the reporting of the caucus results, and that is why they have continually "reserved the right to challenge" Texas law and Democratic party procedures...The Clinton campaign strategy is to justify taking the fight beyond Texas even if they fall further behind Obama in the national delegate count. To do that, they must cast doubt over the fate of the 67 delegates that will be chosen at the caucus level. Hence, their tough positioning in phone calls with Texas Democratic Party officials and others involved in the primary here."



On Friday, the campaign tried to minimize expectations for Clinton and to change the firewall once again, by releasing an odd memo, outlining how Obama is enjoying momentum and outspending Clinton in the March 4th primary states, and then stating: "Should Senator Obama fail to score decisive victories with all of the resources and effort he is bringing to bear, the message will be clear: Democrats, the majority of whom have favored Hillary in the primary contests held to date, have their doubts about Senator Obama and are having second thoughts about him as a prospective standard-bearer."



The most ominous undertaking by the Clinton camp to date, however, also came Friday morning, when they unveiled an ad, raising the specter of nuclear attack, and harkening back to the infamous 1964 "Daisy ad" employed by Lyndon Johnson against Barry Goldwater.



"It's 3:00 am and your children are asleep," the voiceover says. "There's a phone in the White House, and it's ringing. Something is happening in the world. Your vote will decide who answers that call. Whether someone knows the world's leaders, knows the military, someone tested and ready to lead. It's 3am and your children are safe and asleep. Who do you want answering the phone?"



In campaign speeches over the weekend, Clinton also hammered away on a related attack trying to conflate her own and Obama's votes regarding Iraq war funding. As she cannot escape the facts that she voted "with conviction" to allow George W. Bush to invade Iraq and that Obama was a vocal opponent to the war, Clinton claims that once Obama came to the Senate, he voted just as she did in support of the war. Only magical thinking can allow Clinton to argue this point, when she knows very well that votes to support funding for troops who were already in harm's way, and as Iraq lay in ruins, are in no way equivalent to the lack of wisdom and judgment she showed in empowering Bush to launch his preemptive war.



According to the Clinton campaign's magical thinking, it is justified to use any means necessary to tear down her opponent, including the blatant peddling of specious equivalencies and fear. I suppose it's too much to ask that they remember her husband's own words, back in 2004: "If one candidate is trying to scare you, and the other one is trying to make you think, if one candidate's appealing to your fears, and the other one's appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope." (Of course, that was Bill Clinton 1.0 talking.)



How will Hillary Clinton feel when she snaps out of this period of magical thinking and realizes that her last ditch moves were seen by many Americans as a tragic assault on a reinvigorated democratic process, which is involving a record number of voters across the nation, and as giving ammunition to the GOP machine for their attempts to tear apart the Democratic candidate? Will she also wake up some morning and realize just how tarnished the Clinton legacy has become?



If Clinton fails to win Ohio and Texas by large margins, there is only one honorable move. It's time to bring the magical thinking to an end.


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A former National Public Radio producer (”On the Media”) and staff writer for Variety, Jen’s also written for New York, The New York Observer, The Nation, Village Voice, National Law Journal, Salon, AlterNet, FireDogLake, DailyKos and other media outlets and blogs


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Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Mar 5, 2008 6:49 AM   
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If Hillary gets the nomination because of superdelegates.. the ONLY way she will get it.. then this is wholly undemocratic and is actually party control of the electoral process. That means quite simply that we have no democracy.

I, for one, refuse to vote at all if Hillary should get the nomination through the superdelegate system. I will not legitimize a system that is undemocratic to that degree. I encourage others to do the same... including those who would vote for McCain. does that mean McCain might win? Yes. But how long are you going to sit there and let the parties trap you into voting for them with that threat???? Its the very threat that has kept you from voting for third party candidates for years, isn't it?

How long will you be a prisoner to tyrants?

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Magical thinking, you say? LOL, it's YOU PEOPLE (Alternet, et al) who are guilty...
Posted by: jvaljon1 on Mar 5, 2008 9:12 AM   
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..are the ones who are delusional and guilty of magical thinking, in your determination to ignore and downplay Hillary Clinton's fantastic results BOTH in OHIO AND TEXAS last night.

The fact that you saw fit to put that smarmy disclaimer--about how you're writing your 'analysis' BEFORE THE POLLS ON MARCH 4 CLOSE--shows how irrelevant you and the rest of the MSM have become in predicting the results of any election--not just this one.

The only ones who'll read you now are the hard-core HillaryHaters and--as has been more than seen from the Ohio and TX primary results that you didn't have the guts to report on--those, are in the clear minority.

My my, but doesn't that egg on your face look good! ESPECIALLY SINCE you wrote that hundreds-of-words article today, refusing to wipe it off--and indeed, adding to it!

FYI--the delegate count SO FAR, (you morons), doesn't mean squat,--as you'd realize if you stopped your sour grapes pouting for one little minute.

But I guess that your boss Rupert has given you his orders, so you have to keep parroting the corporate line. As you know, the right wing feared a Hillary win in the big states' primaries--and now they're terrified that their chosen one McTurd will actually have to face his (and the ReThugs') worst nightmare--a smiling Hillary with the knives of clarity, brilliance and rhetoric out and sharpened to get him. Instead of your St. Obama with words, a smile, and nothing much else.

Yep--the States are realizing, along with most of the rest of us--that it takes a Clinton to clean up after a Bush. Yet, you know what?

I would really like to see a Hillary/Obama ticket--for no other reason than to unite the Democratic Party--and that's all that Hillary would have to do if she so chooses, to unite the Dems--as well as to guarantee us 16 Democratic years. Too bad that none of you OR the rest of the MSM, didn't see the possibilities in such a pairing.

But then, all of you being msm clones and mouthpieces--God forbid you should have gone along with such a 'radical' idea.

I LOVE THE EGG ALL OVER YOUR FACES!!!

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RE: Magical thinking, you say? LOL, it's YOU PEOPLE (Alternet, et al) who are guilty...
Posted by: citizen jen on Mar 5, 2008 11:39 AM   
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Just to clarify.

I wrote this piece for Huffington Post, and it appeared on Monday morning. AlterNet chose to run it today. But the logic still stands, friend.

Hillary cannot catch Obama in the delegate lead unless she wins every remaining race by huge margins. And guess what?

She's won exactly NO contests by huge margins.

This race will apparently be decided by superdelegates. So we might as well forgo the rest of the primaries, if we take Hillary's magical thinking to its logical conclusion, and just let the supers vote now.

Why waste millions of dollars to watch the Democratic party disintegrate over the next few months. The Republicans sure do love Hillary these days.

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HRC Dreams-Our Nightmare
Posted by: blackie4aces on Mar 5, 2008 9:26 AM   
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My guess is that Senator Clinton has been angling for the presidency probably from the first day she set foot in the White House, maybe even before that. I've often wondered if that motivation was part of a deal with Bill Clinton in order to obtain her participation in that humiliating, tawdry national television examination of the Gennifer Flowers affair and deconstruction of the Clintons' marriage. To have lusted for something so long, believing it would finally simply fall at one's feet, and then see it slipping away has got to lead to "magical thinking" and some pretty nasty stuff. I doubt we've seen anything close to what is coming.

She has a long history of exercising horrendous judgement in the past and it does not appear that this has changed. Like William Clinton, unfortunately, she is a Republican in Dem clothing, a phony-save the children-bomb the children-starve the children-and a dissembler. She has aligned herself with Bush's and the Neocons' war policy, detaching only soon before her election run as she sensed the popular mood had changed. Never admitting a mistake, a trait going back to her days as First Lady, she now expects this history to magically disappear along with the totally botched healthcare initiative, TravelGate, FileGate, Dick Morris, triangulation, NAFTA-though she now says she was against it, I have no memory of her speaking out-the vast right-wing conspiracy-actually in a certain sense correct though highly impolitic if not just silly-the Patriot Act, the Kyl-Lieberman Act, first use of nuclear weapons, the FISA spying Act, the massive amount of campaign contributions she has accepted from the arms dealers of the world.

Absent any real accomplishments, particulaarly since her Woodstock Museum bill was defeated, the Senator has now resorted to the phony "experience" argument, which, as has been noted by many pundits and also some rational people as well, sets up John McCain, who can lay claim to a long history of real political experience, military experience (Clinton should lay off the Commander-In-Chief rhetoric) and a certain amount of accomplishment without having had to be married to a President of the U.S.

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» So Evidently You Want Posted by: blackie4aces
How you can know Obama is a tool of the GOP
Posted by: xbj on Mar 5, 2008 9:39 AM   
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What would a REAL Democrat want above all else?

An end to the GOP reign in the White House. At any cost. To get the world back onto the right track again.

How would a REAL Democrat have reacted to Hillary's campaign?

Supported it wholeheartedly; 95% of the American public believes rightly that the entire world was better off during the Clinton years. Another Clinton Presidency would have been welcomed by most all the American Public and certainly by the rest of the world. Bill Clinton was the absolute most beloved President by the entire world than any other, including Kennedy. ALL POLLS prior to Obama showed that if ONLY 51% of women voted for Hillary, she would have won hands down.

What's the ONE thing anyone could have done to screw that inevitability up?

Divide and conquer. Put up a young male black candidate with overwhelming oratorial prowess, charm, and charisma, to peel off Hillary's black and female support.

What's the one thing that Obama did, which has divided up the Democrat Party into two fighting factions and has (according to the rigged MSM anyway) lost ALL the advantage they had against McCain, BEFORE OBAMA entered the race and created ObamaNation?

Entered the race. And kept going when it was obvious ObamaNation was tearing up the Party and destroying 95% of their chance at winning the White House.

Would a REAL Democrat have done that?

Hell no.

Is Obama a real Democrat?

Apparently not a wise one.

Is Obama a tool of Rove?

Might as well be if he isn't. He should damn well be on the payroll for the trillion dollar job he's doing at handing the White House to McCain.

If Obama is a real Democrat, what should he do?

Cut a deal with Hillary for VP, and end his campaign. Before Rove can pull the rug out from under him AND THE ENTIRE DEMOCRATIC PARTY with Larry Sinclair and other revelations about Obama's drugs and sexual past.

What will he do?

THAT's how you will know whether he is a tool of Rove and the GOP or not.

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» Wow..... Posted by: JoshuaLudd
» HillnBill/McPAIN '08! Posted by: foreverhope
» Extremeist Hillaryites Posted by: foreverhope
Get Real
Posted by: FletcherChristian on Mar 5, 2008 10:03 AM   
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Why should Hilary withdraw from the Race?/ Obama cannot win the nomination without the Superdelegates either, so why should Hilary concede them to him?

Obama did not carry ANY important State, and the Caucuses were highly questionable, in that there was a deliberate attempot to fill them with his crews. They therefore are NOT reflective of ANY Democratic process. If we examine Primaries and NOT trhese fraudulent Caucuses, we see that Hilary is ahead on all counts.
She will win Penn. She will be the Dem Nom. She will be the Next Pres. Barrack should withjdraw NOW and save the Party the trauma of a long fight.

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» RE: Get Real Posted by: Vik
» RE: Get Real Posted by: JoshuaLudd
Do we need an article like this?
Posted by: DEBKAMAINE on Mar 5, 2008 12:50 PM   
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What on Earth is it that makes the rightwing so terrified of this woman and splits liberals, at this time in history?

We have a "president" who MAY allow a fair election, or we MAY end up with McCain. This president is not acting like someone who is leaving office, and I really wonder if McCain is the next one to carry the torch.

So, what are we doing? We are arguing over Hillary and Obama. I really do wonder if the aversion to Hillary is more about her being a woman than anything else. Sorry, but I wonder if LIBERALS are afraid of a strong woman!

I am from the Chicago area and Hillary reminds me of my best friend's mother. Her appearance and carriage are similar. I just do not see a DEMONIC WOMAN WHO IS GOING TO GET US ALL!! I hear so many liberals say that they DON'T LIKE HER.....it is a personal issue with my friends.

ARE WE NOT READY FOR A WOMAN WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT??? We are treating her the way that females have been treated in the workplace. A woman comes in a gets to the top and for how many years did we wondery WHY...WHY IS A WOMAN ON TOP....WHAT DID SHE DO???......I wonder if EVEN LIBERAL women are going through this with Hillary.

I do not see ONE issue with her personality. She is not abrasive or mean spirited. I do not get this FEAR of her.

I look at her stand on issues and she looks more liberal than Obama. Look at her stand on nationalized healthcare and social security....she is more liberal than Obama.

Sorry, but I wonder if LIBERALS, women included, are afraid of her because she weathered what was probably the most INSANE, UNPROFESSIONAL, IMMATURE, COSTLY attack when she was a first lady and her husband was in office.

She has gone through hell. Obama has not scratched the surface. He has not been tested in even SLIGHT ways. When it comes to the 3 a.m. phone call, YES, I KNOW that Hilllary can handle crises under fire.

I know that she is smart. I know that she remains composed and I know that criticism does not throw her off kilter.

Why are we on the same side of the line when it comes to getting rid of Bush, in need of making sure that we HAVE AN ELECTION, and not have fake ones like the last two presidential....WHY ARE WE TAKING OUR TIME TO FIGHT DOWN ONE OF OUR OWN???

I don't think that a whole lot of "tolerant" perople are that tolerant.

Sorry, but I think it IS a sexism issue. We have allowed the rightwing hate propaganda to scare us of one of our own.

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» RE: Do we need an article like this? Posted by: blackie4aces
REMEMBER...
Posted by: phrogg40 on Mar 5, 2008 1:09 PM   
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Even if HRC becomes the Democratic nominee, there still a way those of us who don't think she's the best choice can make a difference - and it's NOT by voting for McCain or not voting at all. NEITHER of these options would change anything.

It's call WRTTE-IN. We can write-in Barack Oboma, and if enough of us did this, it could change the outcome of the November election!

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Dems lose again
Posted by: bettyn on Mar 5, 2008 4:43 PM   
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The Democratic circular firing squad is now fully in place: Neither candidate can win without these "superdelegates". Expect Bill Clinton to call in any and all debts he feels owed and be STRONGARMED about it. Hence, a fractured Democratic Party yields another election to the Repugnant Rovian Fascist State that now runs our government. Even if Obama manages to squeak past for the nomination, it just means that another block of voters gets alienated and the result is the same.

The Democratic Party is totally and completely bankrupt as far as I'm concerned, and so is democracy in the USA. We have a FASCIST STATE. No matter which way you slice it, the USA the Founders first imagined is dead as a DOORNAIL.

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» RE: Dems lose again Posted by: blackie4aces
» RE: Dems lose again. Or Do They? Posted by: todayspeaker