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Former Northern Illinois University Student Opens Fire, Kills Five on Campus

Posted by Pam Spaulding, Pam's House Blend at 6:06 AM on February 15, 2008.


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There's no way to stop someone out of their head from creating a maelstrom of death and destruction if they put their minds to it; this incident occurred at Northern Illinois University. (MSNBC):

A former graduate student armed with two handguns and a shotgun opened fire Thursday in a large lecture hall on the campus of Northern Illinois University, killing five students and wounding 16 others before killing himself, authorities said.

University President John G. Peters said six students - four women, the shooter and another man - were killed in what he described as a "very brief, rapid-fire assault." Sixteen other students were injured by bullet wounds or flying glass, authorities said.

All of the victims were students, including the shooter and the instructor, a graduate teaching assistant, who survived, Peters said. Two of the survivors were in critical condition Thursday night.

At least there was a warning system that prevented another Virginia Tech massacre - a new security system put in place after that tragedy alerted students to avoid Kings Common and buildings in the area and the campus was locked down.

A student who was in one of the classes described the gunman and former student as "a thin white man wearing a black 'beanie' and a black trench coat."

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Terrorism
Posted by: QQOblivion on Feb 15, 2008 7:00 AM   
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This was terrorism, plain and simple. Yet, as Bush pushes for torture and domestic spying without accountability to "protect" us from terrorists, where are the calls from the White House for gun-control, the one measure that would have likely have helped prevent this tragedy?

And another thing. This guy was White, so will we hear it now about how White people are criminals by nature? And maybe he was a follower of a religion besides Islam (I don't know), and maybe he was sane. If so, will we hear from the Mainstream Media about how he was perfectly sane and how he was a Christian or whatever he was? (We certainly will hear about it if he was a Muslim.)

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» RE: Terrorism AMERICAN STYLE Posted by: VZEQICVA
Get used to it
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Feb 15, 2008 7:06 AM   
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There's plenty of fire arms out there and a crumbling economic and social structure to fire up the resentment in the marginal. School and workplace shootings will become the norm. Hey, no sense killing yourself without taking a few dozen other random folks with you.

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» RE: Get used to it Posted by: VZEQICVA
from what I have read about this student...
Posted by: ellie on Feb 15, 2008 8:19 AM   
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he was currently a grad student in chicago, and worked on a few papers on self inflicted injuries in prisons with faculty, plus he was a grad student in sociology, well thought of and never a problem...

knowing the psychological pressure and stress of being a grad student in sociology anywhere, I would put this incident under a sub-section category of 'suicide by cop', he knew social theory of violence, studied deviance and went off the deep end, simply put... it's all part of grad training in this discipline...

he knew how to stay under the radar of any academic officials, law enforcement, medical help and faculty... this is what makes it so sad for everyone affected, he must have been a horribly haunted young man to act on his intentions, sadly effecting and killing others...

my heart breaks for everyone involved, and will make us scrutinize our discipline in the hopes of this never happening again...

ellie, Ph.D
sociology
(deviance and social organizations)

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Where are we headed with this?
Posted by: DrTony on Feb 15, 2008 8:28 AM   
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We know nothing about why this young man did what he did. Yet, we are willing to add fuel to the fire by creating the reasons for what he did?

Exactly where are we headed with this? It doesn't appear to be a saner world, when we automatically blame people or blame people for blaming people.

Let's pause for a moment; help those who have lost loved ones (including the family of this young man)grieve and then let's work to make sure that it doesn't happen again.

It was almost an add-on to every news broadcast this morning that this was the FOURTH shooting at a high school or college this week. Let's work to fix the problem, not find blame or blamers.

In peace,
Dr Tony
Thoughts From the Heart on the Left

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lays direct blame for this on homos
Posted by: bitsfick on Feb 15, 2008 9:27 AM   
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or liberals.

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Gun Control
Posted by: sfbr on Feb 15, 2008 10:09 AM   
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How would gun control prevent this stupid act from happening? 99.999999% of us that own guns are probably the most responsible people in this country.

This awful deed was caused by a human maniac, not by a law abiding gun owner.

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» RE: Gun Control Posted by: SalB
statistically speaking
Posted by: nebgirl on Feb 15, 2008 10:55 AM   
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this type of mass shooting is done by a young white male. maybe young white males should not be allowed to own guns.

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Fucking idiotic
Posted by: SalB on Feb 15, 2008 11:53 PM   
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On Monday, I read "The Fear Factory" in Rolling Stone. From what I understood, the government is letting arrested salespeople from the black-market narcotic industry feed the ideas of disaffected young people that have vague affections for Islam and dislike for the US. Ordinarily, these people wouldn't have the means to do anything. One was practically homeless. But the "agent" comes in and befriends them. He feeds their ideas and suddenly, homeless men have a laptop and Google Earth. Later, this friend has "a connection" for some grenades to throw at the place that they cased together, with the agent's car. Then bang, the bust happens, and all the idiots in the media tell us that yay, another terrorist plot foiled. Because we really do not want some crazy throwing a grenade in a mall and killing a dozen or more people.

And meanwhile, in the same damn state, a real terrorist does just that, but with a gun, not a grenade, and we had no idea it where it came from.

Thanks for arresting drug dealers and putting them to work to keep me safe, I bet those dead people at NIU really appreciate all your work.

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