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McCain Waffles On Waterboarding: Votes Against Torture Ban

Posted by Christy Hardin Smith, Firedoglake at 12:09 PM on February 13, 2008.


John McCain: He was against waterboarding before he was for it.
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UPDATE 8:50 pm EST John McCain voted against the waterboarding ban. Details here.

Senate Republicans have spoken up against torture on several occasions in the past. But the big question today will be whether their actions will match up with their votes. As Sen. John McCain said during the GOP YouTube Debate on CNN:

"I would hope that we would understand, my friends, that life is not 24 and Jack Bauer. Life is interrogation techniques which are humane and yet effective. And I just came back from visiting a prison in Iraq. The army general there said that techniques under the army field manual are working and working effectively, and he didn't think they need to do anything else. My friends, this is what America is all about."

Since the Bush Administration has flat out said they've used waterboarding and other "enhanced interrogation" techniques on prisoners held in our custody over the last few years, and since they utterly repudiated McCain's prior attempt at limiting their conduct with his anti-torture provision being smacked down with a "no thanks, Bub" signing statement, can we expect Sen. McCain to show up and speak out on behalf of Sec. 327 of the Senate's Intelligence Authorization Conference Report (H.Rept. 110-478 accompanying H.R. 2082) which provides:

SEC. 327. LIMITATION ON INTERROGATION TECHNIQUES. (a) Limitation- No individual in the custody or under the effective control of an element of the intelligence community or instrumentality thereof, regardless of nationality or physical location, shall be subject to any treatment or technique of interrogation not authorized by the United States Army Field Manual on Human Intelligence Collector Operations....

So, what will McCain choose today? Will he go along with the Bush/Cheney unilateral executive fiat at any cost or actually show up today to stand up against torture?

ThinkProgress has more. As does KagroX at DKos and Americablog. And dday has a horrid bonus quote from Justice Scalia that illustrates the "24 as reality" mindset perfectly -- and why it is important that every Senator who has spoken out forcefully against torture put their actions where their mouth is.

Will McCain show at all for the vote? Will his chief toady Lindsay Graham support the standards in the Army Field Manual -- or the Dick Cheney whatever it takes brigade? That administration support for McCain doesn't come cheaply, I'm sure, and I would certainly love to know the terms of the price on that. If McCain was misled by the Bush Administration on this issue -- rather than simply duped -- now would be the time to set that record straight.

The Bush Administration's weaselly assurances and half-truths aside, McCain has been far too trusting of them, only acting to curtail their illegal and immoral actions when it was blatantly obvious that they were violating every precept of the military's long-held code of conduct -- and asking our soldiers to do the same as a matter of policy on far too many occasions. What will McCain do today on this issue? Anything? Or not bother to show...again...which seems to be his latest Senatorial M.O. Still waiting for answers to the following from Jack Balkin, too. What say you, St. McCain?

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Tagged as: torture, cheney, mccain, bush administrtion

Christy Hardin Smith is a former attorney, who earned her undergraduate degree at Smith College, in American Studies and Government, concentrating in American Foreign Policy. She then went on to graduate studies at the University of Pennsylvania in the field of political science and international relations/security studies, before attending law school at the College of Law at West Virginia University, where she was Associate Editor of the Law Review.


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Where, I Wonder, Are All Candidates On Torture Issue
Posted by: QQOblivion on Feb 13, 2008 11:48 AM   
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I would think one would have to be pretty damn evil to be in favor of torturing someone.
Yet many in our government are indeed supporters of this barbaric practice.
As for McCain, I can't wait until he picks his running mate. He has been trying so hard lately to please the far-right-wing base of his party that I would bet very good money that his running mate is a strong pro-torture creep.
And, while we are on the subject, where are Hillary and Barack on the subject of torture? I would not put it past them, even if they are against it, to pick a running mate who waffles at best on the issue.
Why, I wonder, do we hear so little from the Democrats running for president about this issue? (I hear Ann Coulter wants to vote for Hillary over McCain because Hillary at least has not stated her position on torture like McCain supposedly has.)
Torture is one of the biggest issues facing America these days. I would THINK that the candidates would at least pretend to give a crap about the issue.

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OK, so what is the tally now.....
Posted by: drmflorida on Feb 14, 2008 5:45 AM   
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Exactly how is this renegade McCain any different from Bush at this point?

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Midway54
Posted by: Midway54 on Feb 15, 2008 6:04 AM   
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Vote for this guy and you get a Bush II third term.

He is absolutely shameless about his blatant turn-arounds and flip-flops. Just yeterday he received the endorsement of anothe flip-flopper claiming to be Reagan II, Nit Romney.

Were the prospect of him being in the White House not so serious in terms of more wars and a bigger and better military-industrial-pharmaceutical complex, coupled with a Supreme Court filled with far right ideologues. then his candicacy would be nothing less than a farcical comedy.

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Well... so much for the "Maverick!"
Posted by: Quannah on Feb 15, 2008 8:19 PM   
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He's just settling in to beginning to start to do the bidding of the GOP! Big surprise!

And to think that there are veterans who really believed he "had their backs." That he would never condone torture!

What should we expect from someone who said that he didn't care if we were in Iraq for 10 years, 100 years, or a THOUSAND years!

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