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Got FISA Frustration? It's Time to Fight Back

Posted by Christy Hardin Smith, Firedoglake at 12:18 PM on February 12, 2008.


With the Senate's failure to stand up for the rule of law today, the ball goes back to the House's court if the SSCI bill passes.
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With the Senate's failure to stand up for the rule of law today, the ball goes back to the House's court if the SSCI bill passes.

FDL and Glenn Greenwald ask you to help us push the House in the rule of law direction: please sign our petition asking House members to support the RESTORE Act, and not cave to pressure from the Senate on telecom immunity, on basket warrants and every other provision which requires careful debate on the long-term legal ramifications rather than a rubber stamp.

In a follow-up opinion (FISC Docket No.: MISC. 07-01), the FISA Court has again punted the issue of overreach by the Bush Administration on classification questions back to Congress. The ACLU's appeal of their December decision has resulted in the same answer: the Bush Administration's actions and classification justifications raise serious questions, but those must be answered by Congress. From the FISC opinion:

...The Court is aware of the ongoing congressional and public debate over extending or replacing the Protect America Act of 2007, and it acknowledges that release of the requested materials (at least in their unredacted form) could inform the public in that debate.

Nevertheless, the Court properly rejected the ACLU's request for release, and now denies the ACLU's motion for reconsideration. As noted above and in the Court's original opinion, even assuming that this Court has the discretion independently to declassify materials over the Executive's objections, the searching review requested by the ACLU of the Executive Branch's classification decisions -- over and above that conducted by a district court under FOIA -- poses unacceptable risks to the national security and to the proper functioning of the FISA process. As already explained, these risks include the heightened possibility of erroneous judicial release of properly classified materials; the forgoing of search or surveillance against legitimate targets; avoidance of the FISC in cases where the need for FISC approval is unclear; and impediments ot the free flow of information in cases that are submitted. These risks simply outweigh the potential benefits from discretionary release.

In other words, there is likely information that the public should know that exists in these classified materials, but the Congress, and not the courts, is the place in which these matters ought to be investigated. It's a strong hint from the FISA court, but they are not going to go beyond that because to do so, in their opinion, would be a violation of their role in this oversight tango. (And I have to wonder if the documents that the House is combing through

That the FISA Court has gone on record publicly not once -- but twice now-- on this issue screams volumes. That there is no clear resolution to these issues says a lot about where we are politically, and about the levels of frustration that is engendering among a whole host of people inside and outside the Beltway.

Back in December, after the first decision, I said this -- which is still applicable today:

In plain language, the FISA court just called the Bush Administration on its hypocritical use of classified information for its own political purposes and not properly taking national security considerations into account while using this information as a political football. Good for them.

But this also brings into stark contrast the fact that they have punted this abysmal situation back into the Congress, where oversight and legislative action are the corrective remedies for executive branch overstep. Which is exactly what we have not been seeing, as delay and capitulation to veto threats have sadly ruled the day in the face of overarching political concerns versus standing up proudly for the Constitution.

We need leadership. From every Democratic Presidential candidate, from every Democratic member of the House and Senate. From every American who cares about his or her nation as a nation of laws and not at the whim of a unilateral executive power grab. We fought one revolution in this nation against a petulant King George. It's high time we remembered the value of spine and spunk -- and it is well past time that our elected "leaders" actually exerted some leadership.

What we are facing is a crisis of leadership and character from the people we elect to be leaders. The Republican party is more interested in protecting the Bush Presidency from scrutiny and, thus, it's own party from factually sustained criticism than standing up for the rule of law. The Democratic party does not have enough members with stiff enough spines to withstand the GOP screechfest that would follow any factual assault on the Bush/Cheney illegal overreaches on legal and ethical grounds. And the numbers in both the House and Senate are so close that the votes are not there without a break in those ranks among the GOP and Blue Dogs somewhere to put the rule of law first.

In short, we are stuck in some sort of heinous purgatory wherein the interests of comity and fealty to the CYA needs of the Bush Administration come ahead of the pleas of the DFHs and libertarians and other Americans to stand upright against a unilateral executive power grab.

What we need are more people in Congress who put the rule of law ahead of their own political careers and their party interests, who are willing to stand up for what is right instead of what appears to be politically expedient in the moment. Certainly we have had folks like Feingold and Dodd and a host of others in the Senate and House who have stood with the rule of law. But lately, I have been longing for the days of Sam Ervin and Barbara Jordan and all those giants of the Watergate era who put the nation's interests as a whole first.

Members of the House, the nation turns its lonely eyes to you...

The ACLU is asking its membership to call their member of the House. You can find contact information for the House here. Talking points are:

1. Vote NO on any spying bill with telecom immunity. Lawsuits must be allowed to proceed or we'll never know the truth about what laws were broken and how many Americans rights were violated.

2. Vote NO on any spying that allows the government to spy on Americans without getting a warrant. America doesn't need a bill that needlessly expands the President's ability to spy on innocent Americans without a warrant.

3. Don't let the Senate or President Bush steamroll the House of Representatives. Any bill to regulate spying on Americans must respect the Constitution and must not let phone companies off the hook for warrantless spying.

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Christy Hardin Smith is a former attorney, who earned her undergraduate degree at Smith College, in American Studies and Government, concentrating in American Foreign Policy. She then went on to graduate studies at the University of Pennsylvania in the field of political science and international relations/security studies, before attending law school at the College of Law at West Virginia University, where she was Associate Editor of the Law Review.


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Posted by: QQOblivion on Feb 12, 2008 1:11 PM   
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Well, I sent my representative an email.
She is a Democrat, but we all know how lame the Dems have been on this issue lately. So I don't know if the email will do any good.
I do urge ALL those reading this to send an email or make a phone call to their representatives.
Otherwise, you deserve what we get when fascism comes down FULL FORCE on everyone. (You think things are bad now!? Ha!)

Let's discover the truth! No telecom immunity!

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» RE: Telecoms work for us Posted by: sasquuatch55
Why No Boycott?
Posted by: QQOblivion on Feb 12, 2008 1:48 PM   
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Why hasn't there been any meaningful and well-publicized move to boycott AT&T and the rest who cooperated with Bush and Cheney's warrantless domestic spying?
The telecoms will get their way, it seems, and not have to pay their debt to society. Bush and Cheney, we already know, will also never have to pay their debt to society.

I am F*CKING SICK of all this lack of justice.

I am so saddened that the truth will NEVER be known.

BOYCOTT the telecoms!
(Unless you LIKE being spied on, that is.)

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» RE: Why No Boycott? Posted by: Lauren
» RE: Why No Boycott? Posted by: Knot_Rich
» RE: Why No Boycott? Posted by: AlterEg0
Back to a piece of string and a couple of can's ?
Posted by: gallery9 on Feb 12, 2008 3:46 PM   
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If it were that simple, I'm sure many people would boycott, but what's the alternative?
I called qwest when this shit first became public and was thanked for the support, but declined service because they don't operate in my region of the country.
I did however cancel directv because it is owned by Rupert Murdoch and I refused to put another penny into his arsenal against democrats. You do what you can.....

Last night I was called a defeatist on another blog because I said I would not fall for this crap again. I refused to get my hopes up, and get all enraged twice in one week.
I'm not happy that I was right, but at least the pulsing vein on my forehead was less visible this morning.

Part two of my statement was that I predict chimpy will have a presser tomorrow to publicly humiliate the democrats, and insist that his appointees are confirmed.

Anyone care to place a bet?

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THANKS YOU PIGS!!! THE 110th CONGRESS S.2248 LIES MORE LIES AND EVEN MORE LIES
Posted by: Turiye on Feb 12, 2008 6:35 PM   
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Passed 68 - 29. Traitorous Dems that voted YEA : Baucus (D-MT), Bayh(D-IN), Carper(D-DE), MY PIG SENATOR, LIAR Casey(D-PA), Conrad(D-ND), Inouye(D-HI), Kohl(D-WI), Landrieu(D-LA)of course pig, Lincoln(D-AR), McCaskill(D-MO), Mikulski(D-MD), Nelson(D-FL), Nelson(D-NE), Pryor(D-AR), Rockefeller(D-WV), Salazar(D-CO), Webb(D-VA), Whitehouse(D-RI)

How could we leave out the persons NOT VOTING? My oh MY, CLINTON and OBAMA!!! Very Presidential. FT, no way do either one get my vote.


My deepest Thanks to Senator Chris Dodd for his 20 hour filibuster, thanks Chris for caring for the citizens and the Constitution. Thank you Senator Feinstein for all you have contributed I wish there were more like the both of you, aspirations be damned, you do what is right.

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LISTED BELOW ARE TOLL FREE NUMBERS, EMAILS ARE NOT SEEN FOR 90 DAYS
Posted by: Turiye on Feb 12, 2008 6:46 PM   
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Call these numbers 10,20, 30, 100 times a day, with issues like this. emails are worse. these numbers will get you the switchboard so ask to be Xfered to whomever, Congressman John Conyers, as in tomorrow, as in a million calls re; Impeachment.
Senators, Reps., Committees just tell them the name they will get you to the office. Some people don't want to use their cell phones, others it costs money these are FREE!!!! USE THEM, until their boxes are jam full of messages.
800-828-0498 866-338-1015 877-851-6437
800-459-1887 866-340-9281
800-614-2803

Not inferring anyone is stupid but if not using a cell, put a 1 before the 800, 866 or 877,

Be sure to give Senators Obama and Clinton a SPECIAL thanks for NOT VOTING today!

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LISTED BELOW ARE TOLL FREE NUMBERS, EMAILS ARE NOT SEEN FOR 90 DAYS
Posted by: Turiye on Feb 12, 2008 6:46 PM   
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Call these numbers 10,20, 30, 100 times a day, with issues like this. emails are worse. these numbers will get you the switchboard so ask to be Xfered to whomever, Congressman John Conyers, as in tomorrow, as in a million calls re; Impeachment.
Senators, Reps., Committees just tell them the name they will get you to the office. Some people don't want to use their cell phones, others it costs money these are FREE!!!! USE THEM, until their boxes are jam full of messages.
800-828-0498 866-338-1015 877-851-6437
800-459-1887 866-340-9281
800-614-2803

Not inferring anyone is stupid but if not using a cell, put a 1 before the 800, 866 or 877,

Be sure to give Senators Obama and Clinton a SPECIAL thanks for NOT VOTING today!

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SORRY double post, doesn't hurt to have these twice, though, sorry about that
Posted by: Turiye on Feb 12, 2008 6:48 PM   
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n/e

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Easy Ways to Help Stop FISA Telecom Immunity
Posted by: ResistTyranny on Feb 12, 2008 11:36 PM   
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In addition to signing FISA petition mentioned in the article, I've posted some suggestions and links for 1) finding out where your representatives sit on the FISA issue, 2) tracking the "progress" of the legislation, 3) links to quickly finding the contact information of your representatives so that you can tell them NO to immunity.

If your reps are Republican, tell them this is not a Dem vs Rep issue: a vote for telecom immunity is a vote against We, the People and our civil liberties. Call Harry Reid and tell him "no" to telecom immunity.

Phone calls are more effective than emails. But do sign the petition.

I also recommend calling Sen. Feingold's & Dodd's offices to thank them for their incredible efforts on this legislation.

For more info/links mentioned above, you can visit:

http://whatsinthatkoolaid.blogspot.com/search?q=FISA

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WOW.
Posted by: ResistTyranny on Feb 12, 2008 11:45 PM   
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Don't know how I missed previous comment. Just read the roll call results.

This is awful.
AWFUL!

What do we do now?

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Fuckers!
Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Feb 13, 2008 3:09 AM   
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“Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”

Benjamin Franklin

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Don't let him listen in on you.
Posted by: flymulla on Feb 13, 2008 6:18 AM   
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Don't let him listen in on you.
I have two choices. One is to listen to all the bullshit I get from the politicians, the CIA leaks, the Pentagon failures in Afghanistan and false wars in everyplace. Then I have Putin saying he is building the missile to make sure that the American missile in Poland is not aimed at him. He has the right to defend his country. His country Russia was the first one to tell all,” Let us stop this race. It is too dangerous for all. “Then Bush comes up with his yet another roadmap. He seems to have millions of these that are all tangled up, are they not? In addition, the veto to everything.

Justice Scalia Defends Torture, Claims Gov't Should Be Allowed to Smack Suspect's Face
Posted by Amanda Terkel, Think Progress at 11:22 AM on February 12, 2008.
I love anyone who is cruel, especially he is sitting in the bench looking at the innocents and the guilty not realising the guilt till proved then announce, “Hey. You there. The jury has found you guilty and I think you look nasty piece of meat in our cultured society. You go in the dungeon for six years; we will have your hair cut every year. This is only for you see your ditty hair and realise what we have in mind for those who piece rings in the nose and make ponytail out of the hair when they are not allowed to as a gents. . This will suffice for this morning. Now get out of my sight before I increase the years.” I do not like your name. I do not want to know how you came in America. I only know one thing. You have to learn the lesson”
I think that is pretty close to what the justice says. Is it or do you want more abusive languages.
I thank you
Firozali A. Mulla MBA PhD
P.O.Box 6044
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WWARNER44, Please Request help if you are not familiar with the text of bills but don't act impudent
Posted by: Turiye on Feb 13, 2008 7:20 AM   
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I am getting angrier at you by the second. Think b4 you open your mouth you have no idea how many times a day I am on the phone with, Congress or Committees. Please respect the knwledge I have in the legislative and research area. I am sure you are young but do not TROLL around and mimic me, wrong woman.

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