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Will Edwards Endorse?

Posted by TeddySanFran , Firedoglake at 4:32 AM on February 11, 2008.


Does a John Edwards endorsement matter to you? Why?
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Apparently our two remaining Democratic candidates for President value an endorsement from John Edwards, and maybe sooner rather than later. Both are making visits to Chapel Hill, North Carolina. Senator Clinton made the first trip:

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton flew to North Carolina on Thursday to meet with former Sen. John Edwards, a Clinton official said Sunday, part of a lobbying campaign expected by both Democratic candidates. Details of the meeting were spare. But a Clinton official said the private session took place despite Edwards' decision not to endorse either her or Sen. Barack Obama before the Super Tuesday races.

FDLers commented last night while watching Senators Clinton and Obama at the Jefferson-Jackson Day Dinner in Richmond that they heard echoes of John Edwards in both excellent speeches. And Clinton spoke favorably of John Edwards in Maine yesterday:

Yesterday in Maine, during the question and answer session, a former Edwards supporter said she's supporting Clinton now because she's "a fighter" hopes Clinton will support some of Edwards' policies. Clinton said she'd ask Edwards to be part of "anything I do."

"Let me thank you for your support and let me also compliment Sen. Edwards, who is a fighter and really made poverty an issue that our country has to deal with again," Clinton said. "We haven't had a serious conversation about it in quite some time.... There is a lot that John and I have in common, and I hope he'll fight. And I intend to ask John Edwards to be part of anything I do ... when I'm in the White House."

I wonder if "part of anything I do" came up during the discussions on Thursday in Chapel Hill? More indications that Edwards may be close to an endorsement:

The Thursday meeting, which took place at Edwards' home in Chapel Hill, was followed by a Saturday night session during which the former North Carolina senator and several longtime advisers discussed many issues, including which candidate he should endorse.

At a Chapel Hill party yesterday for Edwards supporters, he gave no indication who he might endorse, or whether that endorsement is imminent. Some advisers are encouraging him not to endorse.

Powerful House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey, the senior Democrat from Wisconsin and one of John Edwards' premier Capitol Hill supporters, declared on Thursday:

"People will, and should, make their own choices, but I believe that, while both remaining candidates would make outstanding presidents, Senator Obama has the best chance of giving this country the new beginning it so desperately needs."

A number of John Edwards' LGBT supporters endorsed Barack Obama before SuperTuesday:

A critical mass of John Edwards's LGBT steering committee is going public with support for Sen. Barack Obama over Sen. Hillary Clinton. Twenty-two members of the Edwards campaign's 59-person gay and lesbian committee will now be working for Obama victories next Tuesday and throughout the rest of the primary season.

The new Obama converts include Eric Stern, who headed up Edwards's LGBT steering committee, and longtime gay activist David Mixner, who famously campaigned for Bill Clinton in 1992, holding some of the very first gay fund-raisers for a U.S. presidential candidate.

John Edwards' campaign manager, former Congressman David Bonior, had this to say on Amy Goodman's radio program immediately after Edwards ended his campaign:

Well, I think John is concerned primarily about the issues that he's fought for, and he wants to listen and hear and see how the two remaining candidates stand up and fight for those issues. And we'll see what they do and how prominent they, for instance, tonight, focus in on the issues that he cares about. And so, I don't know what his future is with respect to endorsements, but my sense is that probably it's not going to happen--if it does happen, it won't happen right away, and if it happens at all. And so, we're listening, and we're waiting. We'll be continuing to pressure our two candidates in the party to speak out forcefully, with passion, and--on these issues to make them essential parts of their campaigns. And we'll see what happens from here.

And CNN got itself **updated** rather quickly today, with what sounds like a call from Elizabeth Edwards herself:

Two friends close to Elizabeth Edwards say she has been in support of Barack Obama, whose campaign has been touting a list of endorsements from former Edwards backers.

UPDATE: In response to such reports, Elizabeth Edwards flatly denies she favors Obama, saying she has "not even come close" to suggesting anything like that to any friend. Edwards adds that she has "no idea" why friends of hers would say that because it simply isn't so.

I hope Candy Crowley was the recipient of that update. I wonder how far away from her ear she had to hold the telephone.

Barack Obama travels to Chapel Hill to chat with John Edwards tomorrow, the day before the Potomac Primary, having lost whatever benefit privacy might have conveyed:

NBC News also confirmed that Obama will meet with Edwards there tomorrow.

My question to you is this:

Does a John Edwards endorsement matter to you? Why?

Let's not slay pixels hashing over who should get his endorsement, shall we? I'd really like know the value of John Edwards' endorsement going forward in the primary campaign. Were you a supporter of John Edwards? Would his endorsement matter?

Would you be happier with our eventual nominee knowing s/he was endorsed by John Edwards?

Finally, if you haven't cast a primary vote yet -- would John Edwards' endorsement sway your vote?

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I supported Edwards...
Posted by: ZenQuixote on Feb 11, 2008 6:05 AM   
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but voted for Obama in the Oklahoma primary after he dropped out... just can't quite bring myself to vote for Hillary, at least not if there's another, non repub, alternative... don't think I could go so far as to vote for a spoiler though...

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Too Late?
Posted by: dustinblythe on Feb 11, 2008 7:07 AM   
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At this point, would a John Edwards endorsement make a splash with either candidate and his/her supporters? Like a lot of his supporters,when John Edwards dropped out I had to come to terms with the fact that he was no longer an option and then I had to start thinking about who to back. It is not easy. I have reservations about both Obama and Clinton, but I am leaning toward Obama. Edwards' endorsement, if it comes, would tell me a lot about who convinced him about their convictions concerning labor, health care and poverty and, quite possibly, with whom he has a better chance in regards to a position in their administration.

As far as the general public is concerned, an Edwards endorsement may be just another endorsement. After the hoopla surrounding the Kennedy endorsements of Obama, and the underwhelming effect they had in Massachusetts, the question of "do endorsements matter" was raised all over again. (I realize that the Kennedy and Kerry endorsements may have cut Clinton's margins in Massachusetts, but to the lay person Obama lost Massachusetts)

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» Obama-Kennedy '08 Posted by: jmooney
» RE: Obama-Kennedy '08 Posted by: sui_generis
Too Early!
Posted by: Rook on Feb 11, 2008 7:23 AM   
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I would hope John Edwards would hold out until closer to the actual convention. I want his remaining clout to have an impact on issues and policy that will be built into the Democratic platform. If he throws his endorsement in now, he loses the leverage to influence policy in the future.

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Real Progressives have no voice in this primary
Posted by: truthteller on Feb 11, 2008 7:24 AM   
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If either Kucinich or Edwards names are still on the ballot in MD tomorrow I will cast a protest vote for one of them. If not, I will leave the Presidential spot blank on my ballot and vote down ballot to show one under vote for President and my displeasure at a lack of a real choice.

In November, I plan to vote for the Green Party nominee for President. I don't care how close the election is, in fact, I think it best that either Obama or (especially) Hillary lose so that real progressives can finally push to take over the party from the DLC corporatists that have controlled the party for the past 20 years - and ruined it! The only way progressives are ever going to take back the party is for those running it to lose power and influence. So, if Obama or Hillary wins, the people lose in the long run.

I'm not saying that it makes things easier for the U. S. if this happens. We're going to be in for another four year hard slog. But, having one of the same old, same old corporatists - from either party, but especially the Democrats - just delays the day of reckoning we need. We need a clean break from the past, like the neo-cons achieved by gradually taking over the Republican Party after '64. They wandered in the wilderness for awhile, but eventually won with Reagan in '80. Progressives need to take the long view and start our own house-cleaning. The Progressive Democrats of America have made a start, and hopefully will bring down corporatist tool Al Wynn tomorrow. With the death of Zionist tool Tom Lantos today, we now have a chance to put a real progressive in that safe Democratic seat as well - not to mention the possibility of a new Chairman on the House Foreign Relations Committee who will be fair to the Palestinians.

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Thebigkate
Posted by: Thebigkate on Feb 11, 2008 7:40 AM   
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As an Obama supporter, I hope Edwards will endorse him....and soon! I think Edwards and Obama, especially with their passion about the Iraq War, stand much more together than does Edwards with Clinton. Also, their refusal to take PAC money is a big similarity. Hillary Clinton is the machine candidate, takes money from big Pharma and defense contractors, and that is what Edwards has said he stands against!

So.....I think an Obama endorsement might help resolve this "super delegate" issue, and would certainly ensure that Obama would do well in the remaining primaries!

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of course it makes a difference!
Posted by: bomec on Feb 11, 2008 7:44 AM   
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I am absolutely furious at our fucked up system. The two most progressive and worthy candidates were eliminated before I even had a chance to vote in a primary. Now we are reduced to Obama or Hillbilly. I think Hillbilly would be the kiss of death for winning the White House. All the Vince Foster/travelgate/Monica stuff 24/7 dredged up yet again. The slime and noise on the right would be deafening and non-stop, and it would simply render this "two for the price of one" candidate unelectable.

So Obama it is, and I just wish Edwards had not taken the possibility of the VP slot on the ticket off the table, as he did early on. He would be perfect on the ticket and bring his populist, anti-corporate influence into the mix. What Edwards stands for is absolutely desperately needed in the platform of the Democratic Party.

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sunfiretree
Posted by: sunfire on Feb 11, 2008 8:28 AM   
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I am an Obama supporter and have been for quite some time. However, I have deeply admired John Edwards and his positions on addressing the critical issues of poverty and corporate greed. I do not believe there can be substantial change without a clear focus on these issues. Many of my friends and family were in favor of Edwards because of his clear stand. I would very much appreciate an Edwards endorsement for Obama.

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Edwards' Endorsement : Who Cares?
Posted by: mrtshw on Feb 11, 2008 8:50 AM   
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Edwards Home County's Largest

The 28,200-square-foot home also Orange County's most valuable

By Don Carrington
January 26, 2007



The 28,200-square-foot Edwards home in Orange County is expected to be valued at more than $6 million.


....The rambling structure sits in the middle of a 102-acre estate on Old Greensboro Road west of Chapel Hill. The heavily wooded site and winding driveway ensure that the home is not visible from the road. “No Trespassing” signs discourage passersby from venturing past the gate.....................................
...The recreation building contains a basketball court, a squash court, two stages, a bedroom, kitchen, bathrooms, swimming pool, a four-story tower, and a room designated “John’s Lounge.”

Don Carrington is executive editor of Carolina Journal.
***********************************************


John and Elizabeth Edwards's campaign of populism featuring tears for the downtrodden,
hugs for the Katrina homeless, etc was so patently phony in view of his 28,000+ square foot monument to greed, opulence and hypocrisy; coupled with his $400.00 haircuts, make his endorsement value as impotent as was his candidacy. It's sickening that either Obama or Clinton would grovel for his endorsement !

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Edwards fan supporting Obama
Posted by: CJC on Feb 11, 2008 8:54 AM   
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Edwards dropped out before the primary in my state, so I voted for Obama.

Whether Edwards' endorsement will make any difference I can't say. If he had endorsed Clinton 2 weeks ago I'd have been on the fence. If he endorses Clinton now I'll feel better about her candidacy if she's nominated.

Some say the campaign is getting nasty - different views expressed in the NYTimes Sunday (Frank Rich) and Monday (Paul Krugman). I respect them both. It's unsettling.

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Leaning, leaning
Posted by: Linda in VT on Feb 11, 2008 8:55 AM   
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I filed to run as a John Edwards delegate from VT -- just a day or two before he dropped out. I'm still not sure whether I'll vote for him on March 4 (I collected signatures to get his name on the ballot, so if it's still there, I might just mark it.)

Both the remaining candidates have serious defects, but Hillary probably more than Barack. (1) There's the unite-the-Rethugs factor, which we all know but too well. (2) I'm an unreconstructed Deaniac and think Howard has done an amazing job of creating a grassroots organization, with a great system in place for the fall. I feel very sure that the Clintons, the DLC, and Terry McAwful will destroy that as soon as they can, and return us to the 15-state-let's-lose-forever strategy.

I'd prefer Edwards not endorse, go to Convention with his delegates (if it's not resolved by then), and work the platform and the system for everything he can get on behalf of his -- and our -- agenda. Maybe he can be the fourth wheel on this bus yet, if elected delegates and super delegates are at an impasse.

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Obama's Plan to End the War in Iraq?it DOESN'T END IT
Posted by: JackieGiles on Feb 11, 2008 8:59 AM   
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I'm also an Edwards supporter, elected Uncommitted Delegate in WA. An earlier comment claims that Obama and Edwards share the same passion to end the War. Go to Obama's website and read the "long version",not the "short" one you see first. On page 2 he has says he will/may leave a "residual force" in Iraq to" protect American Diplomatic and military personnel in Iraq,and continue striking at al Qaeda in IraqHe also thinks the Iraqi government can make "political accommodations" to "heal the nation's sectarian (read,RELIGIOUS)rifts" and they should "take on MORE (?) responsibility
for providing security to their people

Hillary is even more "hawkish"

Only about 1/2 the troops in Iraq are designated "combat troops" they're the ones Obama talks about withdrawing. He says he'll leave troops "to continue striking at al Qaeda in Iraq" That's what we claim we're doing now, even though a few months ago, the Pentagon said al Qaedawas only about 2%of those fighting "us".

Obama's plan would lower the profile of the war, bore the pundits,and make most Americans think the war is ending when it is only being "reshaped" into a protracted counter-insurgency (civil war) referee job like our involvements in Central America in the 1970.

I have phoned Edwards'HQ and asked him to address Iraq with Obama when they talk endorsement.

What Iraqi governmental "political accommodations" can possibly stop the religious strife that has been going on since 632 when The Prophet Mohammed died,over who was his legitimate successor?

I'll be Uncommitted if I get elected to go to the Dem Nat. Convention. If I have to "hold my nose and vote" over Iraq, at least my eyes will be open!

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Edwards supporter here
Posted by: chaoslegs on Feb 11, 2008 9:07 AM   
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Unless it was a long and convincing argument, I would have made my own determination.

I did decide to vote for Edwards in the binding primary part of the MN caucus.

I think Obama is more likely to win the general election.

I think on policy Obama has distinguished himself from Clinton and Edwards from attacking from right wing talking points, particularly solve Social Security now and health care mandates.

That is my take.

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Rich progressive people who favor "the poor and dowtrodden"
Posted by: frank69 on Feb 11, 2008 9:08 AM   
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Obviously, the writer for the South Carolina paper deriding Edwards for living in a huge house yet talking about poverty, never heard of another much more famous and even richer person who talked and did a great deal about poverty and the poor - Franklin Roosevelt.

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As An Edwards supporter I would be inclined to listen to
Posted by: Chloe2005 on Feb 11, 2008 9:57 AM   
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John's endorsement. I would hope that who ever the nominee is, he or she would give Edwards an active and important position in the administration.

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Edwards should not endorse
Posted by: badkitty on Feb 11, 2008 10:42 AM   
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My husband and I voted for Edwards in the California primary, despite the fact that he had suspended his campaign. We do not favor him endorsing either Clinton or Obama (Mr. Hillary-lite) and we are seriously afraid McCain will beat either one of them. I would like to see the convention tied and have Edwards be the compromise (!) candidate. Edwards/Richardson... I am being very polite and not saying what I think about people who think (?) that Obama is more progressive/environmentally sound than Hillary.

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Great Value
Posted by: bravegirl68 on Feb 11, 2008 11:23 AM   
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Edwards endorsing either BO or HRC holds great value with me...I'd like to know who vetts (and wins) him for a future cabinet position. I'll vote for that as everything else is kind of "eh" for me. Both BO and HRC have their strengths and their faults, so on the fence about either one.

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IF Edwards endorses, and that's still
Posted by: edgery on Feb 11, 2008 11:38 AM   
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a big if, I will certainly weigh his decision and any statement he makes explaining it very heavily. That said, I have serious problems with both Clinton and Obama, and it's going to take more than an endorsement from my preferred candidate to make those go away. In all likelihood, and without a compelling argument on Edwards's part, I will simply wait till the nomination is official at the convention and work for whomever gets the Party's nod. Either Clinton or Obama is better than the Republicans, to me. Neither is as good as Edwards.

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Edwards' radical example
Posted by: Luciana on Feb 11, 2008 2:10 PM   
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John Edwards' endorsement is very important to me. I supported him strongly because he described the corporate pillaging of the US accurately and said that it needs to be stopped. I don't feel confident that Clinton wants to take this on, and don't know whether Obama understands it or is interested in radical change. If Edwards said that one of them can be relied upon, it would clarify my views.

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» RE: Edwards' radical example Posted by: nochicagoboys
A good Team
Posted by: Abushite on Feb 11, 2008 3:40 PM   
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It is not only the case of endorsement of Barack to get delegates and thereby denying the Clintons a 3rd Term in the White House !

I certainly support the idea of John Edwards throwing his lot in with Barack Obama - they would make a formidable team against the Republicans.

John is astute insofar as he understands he won't be President - but he has so much to offer as President of the Senate and also to fulfil the real role of a Vice President at Barack's shoulder --- That would make a great TEAM !!!

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from an Edwards supporter
Posted by: rpenn on Feb 11, 2008 7:47 PM   
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I am waiting for Edwards to lead me to who he feels will make his issues theirs. Until then I continue to support John; many supporters in NC are trying to get him on the ballot and I think some other states are too. If he could arrive at the convention with a stash of delegates he could be very powerful in giving the US a more humanitarian and worker oriented agenda. But perhaps he will endorse Obama or Clinton in order to broker a position in the winner's administration where he could be more effective.

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RjK
Posted by: rkoutsky@cfl.rr.com on Feb 11, 2008 9:17 PM   
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Since John Edwards stood firm for universal health care, and Obama does not, it makes sense for him to endorse Clinton. Unfortunately, none of them point up the fact that universal health care would also boost the economy by giving private contractors and small business' lower overhead and stronger hiring power by eliminating the expense of buying employer/employee health insurance, plus the cost of manufacturing and production in this country would go down without the added price of employee health insurance. Our current system is in ruins and has to go, and it will not jeopardize anyone's decision to opt for private care, nor will it be a ridiculous tax burden or cause any great waiting periods for emergency treatment as opponents will try to lie to you about. The only people against this are those who profit most from our current broke system. Obama still doesn't get this, only Clinton and Edwards do- WE NEED THIS CHANGE IMMEDIATELY!!

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Edwards stands for the poor
Posted by: niliadis on Feb 11, 2008 10:44 PM   
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If its true that he really stands for the less fortunate, then he will be endorsing Hillary Clinton. She has always stood for the less fortunate. She graduated from yale university and could have gone to work for any big shot law firm, but she choose to work for the Childrens defense, she has also stood for civil rights and for the middle class. It is really known that the upper middle class favor Obama, he does well in caucus, because most of his followers have money to take off during the day. Most of Hillary's followers are of lower income and work all day and Saturdays. Therefore I think Edwards should endorse Hillary. Also his Healthcare was very similar to Hillary's healthcare plans and he knows that she has the passion, perserverand and conviction to be the best president of our time. I truly believe she will.

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Can anyone explain...
Posted by: niliadis on Feb 11, 2008 10:51 PM   
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What Obama is talking about besides the words change, chanage, change, change?? how is he going to be doing this change. we need to stop him from putting the wool over our eyes. Ihave been hoping to see what he says and he does not say anything. There is no subtance there. I saw him interviewed on 60 Min, and I saw Hillary..If you can catch it on line you will know who would be the best persident. We need to vote for the person that can bring the economy to a halt and start bringing it up. We need to vote for whom we really know deep inside will help us, not for someone that says what you want to hear but are just words. He has rejected so far two debates..I wonder why? could it be he can not answer questions? Could it be we could find out how naive and inexperienced he is and want to take over some more votes before people find out he is really not qualified? Lets not kid ourselves with the same ond words that are getting kind of empty because really so far he has not said more than the same words//// Becareful vote for you!

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EDWARDS....PLEASE STAY NEUTRAL!!
Posted by: kunndunn on Feb 12, 2008 5:10 AM   
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Senator Edwards...I am and have always been an ardent supporter of you. Think back upon the brokered convention of Abraham Lincolen, who skillfully emerged as the third candidate to unify the party. Be wise. Hold your cards to your chest. Even if you never endorse, then after the election, you can continue to be the "alternative"out-spoken voice to keep the Democrats honest to your visions. Be a true leader now....be patient...and let the chips fall where they might without your intervention. Sometimes leading is leading by silence as a powerful message of an independent fighther. Edwards Forever!

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This expat voted for Edwards in the worldwide primary ballot
Posted by: SbgBJ on Feb 12, 2008 7:35 AM   
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The final results for the Democrats Abroad expats' primary won't be tabulated until ca. Feb. 22 (a measly 22 delegates "represent" 6 million(!) of us "over here"). I'll be interested to see how many stick to their guns, refuse to be stampeded by the "pundits" and send a signal about and to the candidates of THEIR CHOICE. I'll be particularly curious to see how many voted for "the other" candidates in spite of their suspended (i.e. not ended!) candidacies.

Thus I do not understand why people are assuming/fearing only BO & HC's names will be on their primary ballot, because all (!) the candidates' names were on the expats' online ballot, e.g. Edwards, Gravel & Kucinic, Richardson, Dodd.... I haven't seen the paper ballot other expats are submitting, but why would they be different?

Let's not forget, these are PRIMARIES, folks. We are choosing our preferred candidates, so it makes no sense to omit anybody, nor is it beneficial to game the system. Simply inform yourself and vote your conscience! I'm still uncommitted and will seek to remain neutral until we're down to the wire. But I'm proud that we're fielding so many GOOD, VIABLE candidates. Too bad there are those who refuse to be satisfied and are making the perfect the enemy of the good.
(The democrats' disease...)

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kjboy27
Posted by: karen27 on Feb 13, 2008 5:06 AM   
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My husband and I were supporters of Edwards but an endorsement from him would not influence our votes. We both support Obama now and nothing will sway that vote as we have major issues with both of the Clinton's and do not wish to see them return to the White House. This country needs healing and only someone of Obama's caliber has a chance to begin that process. We will say that given all that we have learned (by researching and reading many materials over the last 8 months) about Sen. Clinton, we would be tremendously disappointed in John Edwards if he were to endorse her. It would seem a sell-out in our opinion.

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