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Pentecostal Preacher Pledges Holy War Against GOP Senator

Posted by Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report at 7:14 AM on January 29, 2008.


Sen. Chuck Grassley recently asked six hyper-wealthy Pentecostal televangelists for their financial records, and they're not happy about it.
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It hasn't generated a lot of headlines, but in the world of religion and politics, it's a pretty big deal. Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), the ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, recently asked six high-profile, hyper-wealthy Pentecostal televangelists for their financial records, under the suspicion that they're using their ministries for personal gain. (Imagine that.)

Not surprisingly, most of the televangelists' ministries have been loath to cooperate with the inquiry. One in particular is pledging a holy war.

Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) has gone after more than a few iconic nonprofits during his tenure atop the Finance Committee, including the Red Cross, Smithsonian and Harvard University.

But now the Finance ranking member and former chairman may have met his match: televangelist Kenneth Copeland of the sprawling Kenneth Copeland Ministries based in Newark, Texas.

In a Jan. 22 closed-circuit broadcast of his 2008 Ministers' Conference obtained by Roll Call, Copeland pledges a holy war against "Brother Grassley" and the Senate for attempting to get a look at the controversial ministry's finances. Grassley wrote a Nov. 6 letter to Copeland and five other prominent ministers requesting a variety of financial information.

"You render unto the government what belongs to the government. And you render unto God what belongs to God," Copeland loudly intones to approving murmurs from the crowd of 1,000 ministers and their guests.

Oh, the irony is rich. These TV preachers believe the separation of church and state is some kind of Satanic, communist plot to be rejected by decent people everywhere. That is, right up until a senator wonders if perhaps they're abusing their tax-exempt status, at which point the church-state wall is high and impregnable.

Now, I should note that, as a rule, I'm not inclined to have government officials poking around churches' books -- unless the church is receiving tax dollars or is suspected of wrongdoing. In this case, the latter applies.

Grassley contacted six ministries that has engaged in activities that certainly look like fraud. These tax-exempt ministries are required, by law, not to use donations from followers to enrich themselves, and there's considerable evidence that they've done just that.

It's no wonder, then, that some of these Pentecostal televangelists are reluctant to share information with Grassley. Copeland seems to be quite the drama-queen about it.

After a searing attack on Grassley's tactics -- which Copeland says were designed to sully his image and pressure him via the media -- Copeland says he will never provide information on his donors, even if he is ordered to do so by subpoena.

"You can go get a subpoena, and I won't give it to you!" Copeland storms. "It's not yours, it's God's and you're not going to get it and that's something I'll go to prison over. So, just get over it!" he tells Grassley, jamming his finger into the air. "And if there's a death penalty that applies, well just go for it!"

I see.

As for the broader political context, because the six ministries involved are all mega-churches, filled with likely Republican voters, there's quite a bit of consternation about Grassley's inquiry.

Doug Wead, head of evangelical outreach for ex-President George H.W. Bush, said the move threatens to fracture the tenuous coalition of Pentecostal and Baptist voters that supported President George W. Bush in his campaigns. He said the ministers see the probe as personal because Grassley is a Baptist and the churches are all Pentecostal. Grassley argues the inquiry is about tax-exempt policy and not religious doctrine. He says he did not know the churches' denominations before the letters were sent.

"He's dividing the base that George W. Bush had," Wead contended. "He's opened this deep fissure. If you look at it as a Republican, it looks disastrous."

Well, that's certainly a good reason for a senator to look the other way on suspected fraud and abuse, isn't it?

As for what kind of "holy war" these ministries might consider, we haven't seen any details yet, but it should be interesting. Stay tuned.

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Steve Benen is a freelance writer/researcher and creator of The Carpetbagger Report. In addition, he is the lead editor of Salon.com's Blog Report, and has been a contributor to Talking Points Memo, Washington Monthly, Crooks & Liars, The American Prospect, and the Guardian.


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Hallelujiah
Posted by: particle on Jan 29, 2008 6:45 AM   
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"Copeland seems to be quite the drama-queen about it."

Yep. If you've ever seen his histrionics and cartoon antics on stage, you know it's all about the cheesy drama.

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» RE: Hallelujiah Posted by: Xynyx
Holy War -- Reeking of Guilt
Posted by: QQOblivion on Jan 29, 2008 7:35 AM   
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If Copeland was a Muslim instead and he promised to wage "holy war", (no matter what he meant by that) he would be in Guantanamo by now.

These guys, the televangelists, just reek of guilt and wrong-doing. Why people still give money to them, and not instead to legitimate charities if those people must give their money away, is beyond me. That must be a sickness of the Right -- Support the rich, take from the poor.

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If the shoe fits....
Posted by: bettyn on Jan 29, 2008 8:30 AM   
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These preachers are more into running PACS in the guise of churches than actually promoting the teachings of Jesus. Since they're doing this and telling people how to vote, they should be taxed to the maximum allowable amount.

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» RE: If the shoe fits.... Posted by: Xynyx
He is parting the Red sea!
Posted by: Lauren on Jan 29, 2008 8:51 AM   
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I made a pun on,

"He's dividing the base that George W. Bush had," Wead contended. "He's opened this deep fissure. If you look at it as a Republican, it looks disastrous."

I find this all quite amusing. I am still betting Romney will be the Republican nominee, he is the best they have. With McCain, the argument is basically, lose (the presidency) with dignity, that's not very compelling.

Romney actually has some skills to offer. If the Democrats screw it up enough, he might even win. If I was a Republican, I would vote for him.

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» RE: Disagree on this one Posted by: Sissy
» RE: Disagree on this one Posted by: peacefullaim
Romney is a pandering barbarian who made his fortune at the
Posted by: thekidde on Jan 29, 2008 9:47 AM   
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expense of workers (Bain Capital ripoffs). Tax churches just like the businesses they are. Anyone who believes in magic bureaucracies in the sky can pay up for being nuts.

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Are any of those churches in Iowa?
Posted by: oregoncharles on Jan 29, 2008 9:47 AM   
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Otherwise, Grassley probably doesn't care.

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Go, Chuck!
Posted by: redfrog on Jan 29, 2008 9:49 AM   
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Maybe a "holy war" is just the ticket to separate the fiscally conservative Republicans from the rabid neo-con Christians. Which side do you think people who self-define as Christians would take? I believe the results would be informative and very possibly surprising. Democrats are not the only party that has moved to the right in response to these neo-cons and their Christian crackpot fringe. In any event, Chuck is doing his job.

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List Isn't Long Enough
Posted by: NoPCZone on Jan 29, 2008 10:05 AM   
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How About Joel Osteen and T.D. Jakes down in good ole Tejas. There are plenty more to investigate and prosecute.

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"...I'll go to prison for it!"
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Jan 29, 2008 10:23 AM   
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A win-win situation for everyone!:D

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Investigation will stall or stop completely
Posted by: Sissy on Jan 29, 2008 12:02 PM   
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Anyone want to lay odds that this investigation into these mangy charletons will be stopped or stalled? They wield tremendous power and I will bet you any amount of money that Grassley is going to, somewhere down the road, be cut off at the pass. They are just too unethical,and have too many lawmakers in their pockets. I applaud Grassley's efforts tremendously and I NEVER thought I would say that about any Conservative Republican, but I really think that in the end this will go nowhere.

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What is Grassley's motive?
Posted by: tap17x on Jan 29, 2008 12:27 PM   
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Could it be actual conscience? If he had one it's unlikely he would be a Refucklican. It must be for votes or money somehow.

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There's something you don't see every day...
Posted by: Gungneir on Jan 29, 2008 2:17 PM   
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I never thought that I would actually applaud the actions of a sitting Republican senator for the rest of this decade. Yet Sen. Grassley is doing what he was HIRED to do in looking out for the public's interest, in a break with the rest of his party. He is not engaging in the usual nastiness that we've come to expect from the GOP, just wondering where the money is going. That he is pursuing an investigation that could possibly split his party into well deserved splinters is just icing on the cake.

Bravo, Senator. Keep pushing for some answers!

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Grassley, white knight
Posted by: Doubtom on Jan 29, 2008 2:24 PM   
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How long has Grassley been around the seat of government? And he's just now waking up to the fact that TV evangelists are nothing but con men. For that matter so are the rest of the religious wackos who prey on the ignorance of the people by peddling their pie in the sky bullshit.

Get a clue Grassley, religion is a racket period, which means that all purveyors of this bullshit are racketeers. See how simple it is? Now do your job, which should have been done years ago.

Priests and lawyers subsist on words alone; they both like to wear robes and speak from elevated platforms in a strange language which they claim the sole right to decipher for us and both attach themselves to us from birth to death like the parasites they are. We need to rid ourselves of both of these leeches to regain control of our lives. We should have seen the striking similarities between these two "pseudo-professions"a long time ago but we were intentionally distracted by the need to survive.
The only thing the priest and lawyers need to prosper is our continued ignorance. They prey on the ignorant of which, unfortunately, there's always been an abundance.

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Grassley, white knight
Posted by: Doubtom on Jan 29, 2008 2:24 PM   
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How long has Grassley been around the seat of government? And he's just now waking up to the fact that TV evangelists are nothing but con men. For that matter so are the rest of the religious wackos who prey on the ignorance of the people by peddling their pie in the sky bullshit.

Get a clue Grassley, religion is a racket period, which means that all purveyors of this bullshit are racketeers. See how simple it is? Now do your job, which should have been done years ago.

Priests and lawyers subsist on words alone; they both like to wear robes and speak from elevated platforms in a strange language which they claim the sole right to decipher for us and both attach themselves to us from birth to death like the parasites they are. We need to rid ourselves of both of these leeches to regain control of our lives. We should have seen the striking similarities between these two "pseudo-professions"a long time ago but we were intentionally distracted by the need to survive.
The only thing the priest and lawyers need to prosper is our continued ignorance. They prey on the ignorant of which, unfortunately, there's always been an abundance.

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» Cui bono? Posted by: Gungneir
Oxymoron
Posted by: davewuxi on Jan 30, 2008 1:54 AM   
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Isn't the concept of a "holy war" an oxymoron? If so, 'nuff said!!

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Another Kenny Boy
Posted by: dougo on Jan 30, 2008 5:09 AM   
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I am sure by now the locusts are swarming around the Grassley home. A pox on his house for even intimating the most holy Rev. Copeland would fleece his flock.How dare he. God has made Kenny so wealthy he can buy or sell any politician he decides he does or doesn't need.After all,he preaches the sermon of affluence and and worships at the alter of the dollar.$$$$$

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WAITASEC
Posted by: willyd on Feb 1, 2008 11:46 AM   
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These charletians need investigating, BUTTTTT, let me get this straight. A US SEN. who flys anywhere in the world he wants, makes a 6 fiqure salary, gets thousands of dollors in perks from lobists, has at least 2 super nice homes, has the best health care in the world, votes himself a pay increase, is off more days than he works in a years time is the man to cast the stone???!!! What a hypicrite GRASSLEY is. Maybe we should call for an audit of SEn Grassley?! At least if I was amember of Creflows church I could decide to quit giving, SEn. Grassley would send the IRS to arrest me if I decided to quit giving to HIS MINISTRY, the US GOV.!!!!

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