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According to the Bible, Illegal Immigrants Must Be Welcomed

Posted by Jon Ponder, Pensito Review at 12:16 PM on January 21, 2008.


Also, has anybody calculated the cost of deporting 12 million people, housing them, processing them and then shipping them across the border?
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If you believe the Bible is the word of God -- and especially if you believe the Bible is the inerrant word of God -- you must believe this:

Leviticus (19:33-4):"And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself."

It would be interesting to know how the "God said it-I believe it-that settles it" crowd would square this admonition with their blood lust to round up 12 million people and send them back to Mexico.

Speaking of fantastical thinking, has anybody calculated the cost of deporting 12 million people, housing them (in concentration camps, assumedly), processing them and then shipping them across the border? If it is, say, $3,000 per person, then the cost to U.S. taxpayers would be $36 billion. (If we outsource it to Halliburton, multiply that by a thousand.)

What Americans see as a domestic illegal immigration crisis is, in reality, an economic diaspora of unskilled workers fleeing ancient structural flaws ingrained into the Mexican political and economic system -- which are compounded by a religious abhorrence for birth control among the people of the exodus.

Mexico is, in effect, the sort of oligarchy Republican economic and social policies are designed to create in the United States: A tiny elite group of people and corporations who control the country's vast reserves of wealth and resources sits on top of a weak and struggling middle class, which in turn rests on a population of tens of millions of people who are poor, uneducated and easily manipulated.

The Mexican oligarchy profits from the exodus, as does the Bush oligarch wannabes: The influx of millions of unskilled laborers, combined with the defenestrating of U.S. jobs overseas, weakens the American labor movement, which, in turn, strengthens domestic corporations and oligarchs.

A question from a conservative published in a recent edition of the popular column, "Ask a Mexican," points to an aspect of the crisis that is rarely discussed:

Why doesn't Mexico have [the] drive toward technology and math/science education that has virtually transformed India? India doesn't even have the mass economy like China, but they have billions and billions of dollars because of their brains. Mexico doesn't produce labor other than the kind that will scrub, wash, press and cut grass.

Leaving aside the rightwing cultural bias, the larger question is on target. Why won't the Mexican government do as the Indian government has done and educate its underclasses?

Why should they?

For one thing, the Mexican government does not view the U.S. illegal immigration crisis as a crisis because, from their point of view, it isn't a problem, it is a solution. They have shifted the burden of caring for millions of their poor, unskilled people to the United States.

For another, educating its masses would actually weaken the Mexican regime because, unlike India's democratic government, the Mexican oligarchy (rightly) views a strong middle class as a threat.

If this illegal immigration crisis is ever going to end, it won't be resolved by the political parties in the United States playing rope-a-dope with each other -- although Republicans will try to use it for their short-term political gain in the general election this year. The crisis will only be settled when the United States government forces the Mexican government to take responsibility for its people by feeding, clothing and, especially, educating them.

Until that happens, if it ever does, we have no other practicable option but to follow the biblical injunction and treat these people as our own. Restricting them from healthcare and education, as rightwing Christians insist on doing, will only exacerbate the problem by creating the ideal conditions for crime, domestic terrorism, deadly epidemics that spread like wildfire into the general population and worse.

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Jon Ponder is regular blogger for the Pensito Review


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Also, According To The Bible
Posted by: bcgirl125 on Jan 21, 2008 12:26 PM   
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Homosexuals and adulterers must be killed. And don't forget that long list of bizarre food taboos, such as not eating pork and shellfish ... just to put it in perspective for the globalists and the open-borders crowd on this forum.

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Definiton -
Posted by: Oryoki on Jan 21, 2008 12:55 PM   
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so·journ
–noun 1. a temporary stay: during his sojourn in Paris.

–verb (used without object) 2. to stay for a time in a place; live temporarily: to sojourn on the Riviera for two months.

—Synonyms 2. visit, vacation, rest, stop.
******************

No mention here of setting up housekeeping. Quoting the Bible is a dangerous practice - especially for the ignorant.

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» RE: Definiton - Posted by: chicano2nd
I'll take it with a grain of salt...
Posted by: ot on Jan 21, 2008 1:06 PM   
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...or should that be with a mustard seed?

As with statistics one can "prove" just about any proposition and "support" virtually any position with the Bible.

Exodus 20:13 and Deuteronomy 5:17 both tell us not to kill, yet Ecclesiastes 3:3 says there is a time for it after all.

Let's remember the intent within the proper context before becoming too exuberant.

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Screw the bible.
Posted by: LeaveMeAlone on Jan 21, 2008 1:33 PM   
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The American people have the right to decide the immigration policy of America. Not the Mexican elites. I personally do not want to live in Mexico, not Mexico south of the Rio Grande, nor Mexico north of the Rio Grande.

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» RE: Screw the bible. Posted by: chicano2nd
» RE: Screw the bible. Posted by: LeaveMeAlone
» RE: Screw the bible. Posted by: chicano2nd
overpopulation, the real problem
Posted by: stilldreaming on Jan 21, 2008 2:00 PM   
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I am a legal immigrant and I also am concerned about our environment and some wilderness along with quality of life for humans.

I am not in favor of illegal unchecked immigration.

The Bible is irrelevant.

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Little to Do With Jesus
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Jan 21, 2008 4:51 PM   
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The problem with the Bible, of course, is that it is pastiche of ancient writings collected over a thousand years and repeatedly redacted and translated. People in power chose what got included and what excluded. So it's a moral smorgasbord, and you can find in it passages to support or refute just about anything.

If, however, Christians believe Jesus, as well as believing in Jesus, they will relegate most of the hateful, violent Pentateuchal, as well as Pauline, material to the status of historical context and not moral imperative. But then what does Christian fundamentalism have to do with Jesus? Very little.

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$3000 per person? NONSENSE! It doesn't cost more than $300
Posted by: weslen1 on Jan 22, 2008 7:34 AM   
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to take a bus from New York to Texas. Put them on a bus and send them to the border and escort them across. Even if it was $3000 that's less than it costs to educate all their kids and give them their free breakfasts and lunches. Per child.
Here's a plan. How about all you amnesty hacks each adopt a family and pay for them out of your own pocket? And while you're at it, YOU go down to the border and try to stop the drugs and the murders and the disappearances of innocent people and keep the illegals off the private property of citizens stuck LIVING on the border. And how about you pay for special armor and other equipment to save the lives of border patrol agents and put Bush's corrupt friend Sutton behind bars?

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» Follow your own call to action... Posted by: hurricane hugo
Good but Flawed
Posted by: fraterm on Jan 22, 2008 8:15 AM   
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The central premise of the article is sound, the conclusions are status quo open borders rhetoric.

"For one thing, the Mexican government does not view the U.S. illegal immigration crisis as a crisis because, from their point of view, it isn't a problem, it is a solution. They have shifted the burden of caring for millions of their poor, unskilled people to the United States."

Some would argue we need to stem the flow:
I side with these folks for the time being until our own economic house is in order.

I agree (as a compromise position) Ron Paul's immigration reform agenda:

* Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.

The cost of deportation mentioned in the article is telling and a valid argument against the practice. Agreeing to it's validity is one thing, but agreeing to the solution offered is something I cannot do. Mexico (and it's oligarchs) need to stop being supported by the oligarchs (state subsidized agribusiness corporations &c.) here to force Mexico to address it's own problems and respond to it's own people's will to change their country into a more representative democracy.

We are acting as an enabler of their oppressive policies. Bush and Vincente both want to support their respective cannibal classes and what we have is a product of their design. Opening our border wide is not a good long-term solution.

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» RE: Good but Flawed Posted by: AgelessAnnie
» RE: Good but Flawed Posted by: blitzmesser
» RE: Good but Flawed Posted by: AgelessAnnie
» Don't be too sure. Posted by: Longdream
» RE: Good but Flawed Posted by: chicano2nd
They'll never learn
Posted by: TheLimit on Jan 22, 2008 2:48 PM   
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The crisis will only be settled when the United States government forces the Mexican government to take responsibility for its people by feeding, clothing and, especially, educating them.

How interesting. In reality, the crisis will be settled when the US gets OUT of the business of influencing other governments and starts tending to its own business.

But that's not going to happen, probably - more likely the US and Mexico will continue to stroke each other, until they can't hardly be told apart.

Lack of education is already showing in the US, the income gap keeps growing, and we don't have far to go before we have sunk to their level. I doubt it will take long, since we have lost any pretense of having a representative republic any more.

Watch this election if you think anything is going to change.

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When In doubt
Posted by: When In Doubt on Jan 22, 2008 7:07 PM   
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I suspect most of the 'illegal" immegrants are here because American industry and Farmers and fruit growers needed cheap labor.

In truth, the immegration "story" is strictly window dressing to deflect Americans from what Cheney/bush are doing while we fuss about slave labor doing jobs that Americans can't afford to take because of the peon wages involved.
mexicans get $5.00 a day in Mexico...in the US they get$5.00 plus PER HOUR. Do the math and put the blame where it belongs.

Let's face it...Government...ALL government is TWO-FACED; Preaching one thing as gospel, and doing exactly the opposite in their real world of wheel and deal.

Okay

I'm wasting my breath.

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BLAH BLAH BLAH, YKNOW?
Posted by: Longdream on Jan 22, 2008 7:28 PM   
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The writer up there mentions the Bible, but only as a lead-in to a "take THAT, you Christian Bastards--God says you have to do it, blah blah blah.

The thing is, that nobody, but nobody here took that passage at face value. Not because God commands you, not because you're Christian, but because it's right.

I can hear y'all now: Oh, no! We can't just let everybody into the country who wants to work here! (Why not?)

They're illegal--they're breaking the law! We can't let lawbreakers run around free! (An unenforceable law is a bad law.)

They take American jobs! (You're kidding, right?)

It isn't easy. But allowing people to stay here, get documented, work and pay taxes is infinitely better than any alternative. This isn't a numbers problem, nor is it a legal problem, or a political or an economic problem. It is a human problem, and any of the proposed solutions to it so far reek of racism, are shamefully inhumane or just plain ludicrous.

This is still the richest country in the world, shaky though the title may be. It was a better country when its gates were open.

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Why is it always an either-or?
Posted by: YogiBear on Jan 22, 2008 8:54 PM   
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Why can't we agree to treat immigrants like brothers but still stop them from sneaking in?

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Immigrants’ Impact on U.S. Economy
Posted by: zeitgeist1979 on Jan 24, 2008 9:00 PM   
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Assessing the Economic Impact of Immigration at the State and Local Level - Recent studies have found that undocumented immigrants, and immigrants in general, are net contributors to the public treasuries and economies of many states and localities. (January 2008). Go to:

http://www.ailf.org/ipc/factchecks/StateLocal07.pdf

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Time to send them home
Posted by: Bioya1 on Jan 25, 2008 2:06 PM   
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These people are here because their own country has let them down. Its not our responsibility, but theirs, to step up and help them. Maybe if those who are for illegal immigrants were to "sponsor" them we might hear a different tune. We already have over 10% of Mexico in the US, why should we continue to let them in?

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