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Clinton Wins NH Stunner; McCain Takes GOP Vote

Posted by Joshua Holland, AlterNet at 2:00 PM on January 8, 2008.


Early evidence indicates they are. Meanwhile, turnout is so high some towns claim they may run out of ballots.

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Update: I haven't seen an exit poll in its entirety yet, but it appears that Obama got close to the 36-39% he was polling, and it's Edwards who lost some support to Hillary. Obama appears to have gotten a similar percentage of the women's vote as he did in Iowa, while Edwards lost ground in that demographic. Edwards' attacks -- and especially his crack about a president needing to be strong after Clinton had an emotional moment on the campaign trail -- appear to have backfired.

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Update: With 66 percent of precincts reporting, NBC is calling it for Hillary Clinton, 39-36. Polls released in recent days had Obama up, some by double-digits.

Exit polls suggest a huge gender gap was at play, with huge numbers of women turning out for Clinton and Obama winning among men -- a reversal of the results from Iowa.

There are many take-aways from this; one is that none of us know what we're talking about. We read the polling data, pay attention to the dribs and drabs of information coming out of the campaigns, analyze the messaging, demographics, the way past votes went, the dollars spent, etc., but at the end of the day it's just so much crystal ball gazing.

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Update: at 5:16 PST, NBC is calling the race for McCain, who leads 37 to 28 with 12% of precincts reporting. Dems too close to call.

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UPDATE: Early exit poll data via MSNBC

Obama 39%, Clinton 29% ...

Exit polls Tuesday showed independents constituting a slightly larger proportion of voters on the Democratic side — they made up 43 percent of those voting Democratic, as opposed to 38 percent on the Republican side. In New Hampshire, independents can opt to vote in either party’s primary, making attracting them a key to victory.

For Republicans voting early in the primary, the exit polls also showed some dissatisfaction with the Bush administration, with a third saying there were dissatisfied and almost 1 in 5 angry with the administration.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York promised a daylong blitz to get her supporters out, even as those closest to her acknowledged the difficulty of trying to counter Obama's momentum so soon after the Iowa caucuses.

Obama spoke at Dartmouth College, while his relatives in Kenya gathered outside by radio, waiting to hear New Hampshire returns.

"Today you can make your voice heard — you can insist that change will come," Obama told the crowd. "The American people have decided for the first time in a very long time to cast aside cynicism, to cast aside fear, to cast aside doubts."

Looking back at his Iowa victory, the man who would be the first black president said: "The state was not, according to the experts, designed for me. There were not a lot of people who look like me in Iowa."

New Hampshire Deputy Secretary of State Dave Scanlan told ABC News that turnout among primary voters today is "absolutely huge" -- and there are concerns about running out of ballots in towns like Portsmouth, Keene, Hudson and Pelham.

"Turnout is absolutely huge and towns are starting to get concerned that they may not have enough ballots," Scanlan said. "We are working on those issues. Everything else seems to be going smoothly."

[snip]

According to Scanlan, the ballot strain seems to be on Democratic ballots, which suggests that the undeclared voters are breaking for the Democratic primary. New Hampshire Secretary of State William Gardner predicted that 90,000 undeclared voters would vote in the Democratic primary compared to 60,000 voting in the Republican primary.

The usual caveats obtain: as I write this the polls won't close for several hours and we won't know for sure until we get some hard data to crunch. But it looks like turnout is very high and most of the enthusiasm is on the Democratic side. That would follow the pattern in Iowa, where turnout for the Democratic caucuses was twice what the GOP garnered.

This should come as no surprise, as there's no GOP candidate that Republicans really like in this race -- one side is picking who they like best -- and turning out in large numbers to do so -- while the other race is about which candidate they dislike least. When a primary contest comes down to that question, it should come as little surprise that a lot of people figure they'll stay home, and watch the affair unfold on TV.

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Joshua Holland is an editor and senior writer at AlterNet.


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This Indie Just Voted For Ron Paul
Posted by: left_libertarian on Jan 8, 2008 2:39 PM   
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US out of Iraq NOW!

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This "progressive" will vote against the MIC
Posted by: channing on Jan 8, 2008 6:43 PM   
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I will not vote for Obama unless he vows to face the MIC... I don't care how you define "progressive", if you think there's going to be one iota of progress on energy, or green, or transparency of Executive/government, and that there'll be one iota of progress on Constitutional Liberties without facing down the New World Order, you're a lost American sacrificing your country for the faith of Optimism... the perfect campaign of the season...

Believe, Believe, Believe,

... "but don't put me on the record as being against the entrenched powers of the MIC, CFR, the Beltway, the MSM, the Shadow Government operating within!"

I'll vote for Paul-Kucinich First, with second choice going to either, the only two to stand up to the devil in the details of the US' demise.

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The indies seem to have gone for McCain
Posted by: brunowe on Jan 8, 2008 7:10 PM   
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With 59% of the Dem vote in it's Clinton--38.9/Obama--36.7 while McCain has a 36.8 to 31.4 lead over Romney with 56% of the votes in.

Oh, stick a fork in Paul, with 7.8% and the possibility of a 5th place finish behind Giuliani, he is DONE!

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End Of The Road For Kucinich?
Posted by: dustinblythe on Jan 8, 2008 7:12 PM   
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Believe me, I am an Edwards supporter and I am disappointed in tonight's results but is New Hampshire the end of the road for Dennis Kucinich? I think that even his most ardent supporters here on Alternet would concede (pardon the expression) that Kucinich pinned his hopes on a strong showing in New Hampshire. Kucinich did not staff Iowa and, to a large degree, did not campaign there but he did work New Hampshire personally. Looking at MSNBC.COM's county by county results Kucinich's support is in the single digits in almost every county.

I know there was quite a bit of support for Kucinich here among the Alternet community and some anger over how he seemed to be ignored. However, it seems to me that his message simply did not resonate with those in the Granite State, even though Kucinich emphasized New Hampshire over Iowa early.

What is the honest opinion of the Alternet community?

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Hillary Wins A VERY CONSERVATIVE State. This is a surprise?
Posted by: NoPCZone on Jan 8, 2008 8:00 PM   
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New Hampshire is a state so right wing that most Democrats in that state would be to the right of many Republicans elsewhere. The 2 DLC candidates, Obama (yes, I know he is no longer officially a member) and Clinton, are duking it out for first place.

(Yawn)

Take a look at the assigned delegate count. Before you let the spinners and the pundits call the nomination, there is no reason to think that anybody should be called a frontrunner or considered to have an easy road ahead.

I would like to tell Chris Matthews and his ilk to STFU and let the voters decide without distraction from a bunch of Washington Insider Parlor Talk. Maybe a month from now, but not tonight.

Hillary, for all her money and organization, has polled the population of a very small city in a nation of 300 million people. Same for Obama.

The people have not spoken yet. Anyone telling you otherwise is spinning things for position or profit.

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Call it
Posted by: YogiBear on Jan 8, 2008 9:04 PM   
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With 66 percent of precincts reporting, NBC is calling it for Hillary Clinton

Which means Bush is going to win somehow, right?

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Sad day in America
Posted by: rick702 on Jan 9, 2008 12:19 AM   
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It's a sad day in America when people start voting for the CRY BABBY!!! Poor Hillery, don't want her to cry again so lets vote for her. How stupid are NH voters?!?!!!!

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SURPRISE: DIEBOLD COUNTS THE VOTES = NEOCONS WIN!!!
Posted by: channing on Jan 9, 2008 7:19 AM   
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Who could have predicted?

...gee, I sure love throwing our elections under a bus and all, but can't we get back to trustworthy paper?

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Set-Up For Republican President Next Time Around?
Posted by: QQOblivion on Jan 9, 2008 8:43 AM   
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What a shock. The Democrat most likely to lose in November "wins" NH. (Was there vote-rigging? Maybe.) While the Repugnantcan most able to beat her wins too. (Sorry, Ron Paul fans, but Paul wouldn't win over enough of the Republican voters in Nov.)
I sure hope the primary election in NH isn't a preview of who we are to vote on in November, or we are doomed!... whichever candidate wins then.

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