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Obama Now Leading Hillary by 10 Points in New Hampshire

Posted by Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report at 7:38 PM on January 4, 2008.


Also former presidential candidate and NJ Senator Bill Bradley will endorse Obama this Monday.
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UPDATE: Obama Now Leading Hillary by 10 Points in New Hampshire

Over the last couple of weeks, the gap in New Hampshire between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama on the Democratic side, and Mitt Romney and John McCain on the Republican side, has been shrinking considerably.

The question, of course, is whether the results of the Iowa caucuses would affect the New Hampshire race, and if so, how much.

In what I believe it the first poll conducted after the caucus results were announced, Rasmussen has new numbers for the political world to chew on. The pollster’s site has apparently crashed, but David Kurtz posted the numbers:

Dems: Obama 37%, Clinton 27%

Republicans: McCain 31%, Romney 26%

A few thoughts:

* I don’t know where Edwards fit into the mix.

* Because Rasmussen’s site is down, we can’t get a sense of the trend (or the methodology).

* Before anyone gets too excited about these numbers, remember that Rasmussen didn’t exactly nail the Iowa results (it had Clinton ahead throughout).

All of that aside, if Obama really is up by 10 points, that’s quite a bump.

***

This morning, Bill Clinton told ABC News that New Hampshire can make Hillary Clinton the "comeback kid," just as it did for him 16 years ago. He sounded an optimistic note: "She's got a better profile here. They know more about her now than they did about me then. And I think she'll be fine. We just get out and go."

That, of course, isn't quite as easy as it sounds. Obviously, despite yesterday's setback, Clinton is far too strong a candidate to write off at this point. All of her strengths -- fundraising, operation, name recognition -- are exactly as they were 24 hours ago. Primaries in New York, New Jersey, and California are coming up, and Clinton is still poised to do quite well in each.

But the question is nevertheless glaring: what does Hillary Clinton do now?

"Electability" seems to be out; people aren't really buying it. "Inevitability" is definitely out; coming in third in Iowa pretty much took care of that one. Does she change her message? Go (very) negative? Stay the course?

TNR's Michael Crowley heard campaign aides furiously pitch reporters on route to New Hampshire last night and got a sense of the road ahead.

Soon after, Mark Penn appeared in the aisle. Penn doesn't care much for reporters and he suffered the scrum around him with a mild grimace. Penn invoked the other key refrain of the night: "experience," and Hillary's preparedness for the White House. Some campaigns respond to defeat by retooling -- think of George W. Bush re-casting himself a "Reformer With Results" after losing to John McCain in New Hampshire eight years ago. But Penn's talking points suggested that there will be no Hillary relaunch. She will evidently plow ahead with the same experience message Iowans rejected last night.

Penn, the number-cruncher, also emphasized the terrain on which he feels most comfortable: polls. As of Thursday morning, he told the hacks straining to catch his deadpanned observations, Hillary was a clear leader in the national polls.

"National polls"? Really? Isn't it pretty clear by now that they don't mean anything in a state-by-state race, and that national polls can shift on a dime? If anyone doubts this, ask Rudy Giuliani about his love of national polls.

Crowley added:

For all the spinning, what no one could convincingly explain was what shape that fight will take and how it can succeed. The New Hampshire primary is in five days. Today, Friday, will be defined by coverage of Obama's Iowa triumph. By primary day it will be too late for Hillary to change the storyline that she is a broken idol. That leaves her all of three days to do her work or risk a catastrophic second loss here.

She has few options. What card do the Clintons have left to play? Hillary has already worked to seem warmer and more likeable, with limited results. Going harshly negative against Obama is one option, but given his heroic glow would likely only make Hillary look bitter and nasty -- and merely reinforce Obama's case against "politics as usual."

It is, to be sure, an awkward challenge.

Last night's speech in Iowa probably wasn't a step in the right direction. On the one hand, Clinton continued to position herself as an agent of effective change for the future. On the other hand, she spoke with Bill Clinton on one side and Madeline Albright on the other. (Some joked that it looked like Hillary was building a bridge to the 20th century.)

Stay tuned.

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Steve Benen is a freelance writer/researcher and creator of The Carpetbagger Report. In addition, he is the lead editor of Salon.com's Blog Report, and has been a contributor to Talking Points Memo, Washington Monthly, Crooks & Liars, The American Prospect, and the Guardian.


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Why was Clinton on ABC?
Posted by: sliver on Jan 4, 2008 12:00 PM   
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Does the third-place finisher get all the national press coverage these days?

How hard did ABC dig to get to the heart of the Iowa Caucus story?

Or did they just go out and get a big name because they just want to sell their show?

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Not Comeback Kid...
Posted by: Frank J. Burris on Jan 4, 2008 2:03 PM   
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How about she makes herself the Go Away Kid?

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Just Go Away
Posted by: left_libertarian on Jan 4, 2008 3:03 PM   
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Please.

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When/If she ever gets down to the nut cutting ...
Posted by: TarryFaster on Jan 4, 2008 9:45 PM   
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how is she EVER going to overcome all of this? --->Click.

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oldfreedomdude
Posted by: oldfreedomdude on Jan 5, 2008 7:00 AM   
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Hilary and Bill will now use their secret weapon, Joe Lieberman to campaign for them in "black-face", and if they still lose the Democratic Party nomination, they will run in the general election as "Clintons for Clintons".

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Arrogance Lost? Hopefully
Posted by: QQOblivion on Jan 5, 2008 8:35 AM   
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I am glad Hillary C lost Iowa. Not only am I not too fond of her (because she is too much like a Republican in so many ways, and she can't win the general election), but maybe the loss will lead to her toning down her arrogant demeanor.
Got that, Hillary? You are NOT the inevitable Democratic nominee. Better get used to it!

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rasmussen
Posted by: Joshua Holland on Jan 5, 2008 8:02 PM   
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* I don’t know where Edwards fit into the mix.

Obama=37%
Hillary=27%
Edwards=19%

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jeanruss
Posted by: jeanruss on Jan 6, 2008 9:00 AM   
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Edwards did a fabulous job in the debate-he was the only one who looked fresh and ready-you can see how he has really thought through what the next President is facing and how he would solve these serious issues-so exciting!

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oldfreedomdude
Posted by: oldfreedomdude on Jan 6, 2008 12:40 PM   
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What I find most disappointing is that neither Obama nor Clinton have shown any leadership. Actually, every other Democratic candidate: Kucinich, Dodd, Edwards, and Richardson, have all demonstrated far more leadership in addressing issues and representing the wishes of the American people, than Obama or Clinton, but isn't that exactly why DNC and the media have pushed Obama and Clinton to the front?

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Unabashed Bold Face Lie
Posted by: pdxstudent on Jan 6, 2008 3:36 PM   
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"'Electability' seems to be out; people aren't really buying it."

"Electability" is practically the only thing that anyone has to say about Kucinich, even after they backhandedly say they actually agree with him more. Saying that it isn't already fixing the possibilities of who is elected is, even if ideologically born, a lie.

I wish Alter Net would read closer for liars, propagandists and ideologues.

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Hillary
Posted by: Schroeder on Jan 6, 2008 8:31 PM   
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I watched the debates for the second time tonight (democrat). I could only watch the republicans once...for me, it's about penance. The reality is that Hillary is one very smart woman. She knows what's happening in the world around her. I found Edwards to be rather petty in his treatment of her. I find Obama to still be a question. I think his message is very positive, I'm just not quite sure what it is yet. I can't agree with either he or Richardson when they start talking about working with the republicans. Not that I think it's wrong, but truthfully, what Republicans have you seen willing to work with the Dems in the past 6-7 years. As a matter of fact, there has been so much pressure not to do some things the president doesn't want done, that it seems the dems are even afraid to work with the dems. I don't yet know who I'm voting for but I still cannot understand all the extreme hatred for Hillary. I voted for Bill twice and if I could vote for him again, I wouldn't. But I'm not sure that I wouldn't vote for Hillary. I just don't think she's the wicked person that she's made out to be. And, I am a little sick of hearing the media talk about her sounding 'aggressive'. She has been more willing than any of them to be specific in her criticism of the Bush Administration. My mind is not yet made up.

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