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New Des Moines Register Poll: Obama Widens Lead Over Clinton, Edwards

Posted by Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report at 8:41 AM on January 1, 2008.


The Edwards campaign is arguing that the poll is exaggerating the likely participation of first-timers, which may very well be true.
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It seemed as if the political/media world had finally settled on a narrative for the Iowa caucuses -- Hillary Clinton had a reasonably solid lead, John Edwards had the big mo and was in position to pull the upset, and Mike Huckabee was sinking fast.

Of course, of all of that may still be true, but the highly-anticipated poll from the Des Moines Register doesn't fit the narrative at all. Here's how the Dems stacked up in the poll, released last night:

* Obama 32% (up from 28% in early December) * Clinton 25% (unchanged)

* Edwards 24% (up from 23%)

* Richardson 6% (down from 9%)

* Biden 4% (down from 6%)

And the Republicans:

* Huckabee 32% (up from 29% in early December) * Romney 24% (down from 26%)

* McCain 13% (up from 7%)

* Thompson 9% (up from 5%)

* Paul 9% (up from 7%)

* Giuliani 5% (down from 13%)

If accurate, these results are obviously extremely good news for the Obama campaign, whose seven-point lead is larger than any Democrat has enjoyed in any DMR poll this year.

There's no shortage of analysis about What It All Means (if anything), but here are a few points to consider:

* Roughly a third of likely caucusgoers say they could be persuaded to choose someone else before Thursday evening.

* The DMR poll does not reflect second-choices, which may make quite a difference, given the number of candidates who may not make the 15% threshold in various parts of the state.

* The DMR poll isn't exactly in line with other recent numbers from the state, but it's generally the most respected poll in the state, and has a strong track record for accuracy. (The caveat to this, of course, is that all polling over the holidays is inherently tricky.)

* Ben Smith notes the makeup of the poll participants: "The Register poll is including a surprising 40% of independents and 5% of Republicans among the people likely to attend the Democratic caucuses. If that pans out on January 4, it's hard to see how Obama wouldn't win. On the other hand, as David Yepsen points out, Hillary is actually winning among Democrats, who made up 80% of the caucus-goers last cycle."

* On a related note, Marc Ambinder adds that "Obama's internal polling does not show this high a proportion of independents choosing to caucus."

* The Edwards campaign is arguing that the poll is exaggerating the likely participation of first-timers, which may very well be true.

* If Giuliani comes in a distant sixth, behind Ron Paul, after having been in the lead in the spring of 2007, I'm going to laugh my butt off.

* Noam Scheiber raises a very interesting point about self-fulfilling prophecies: "[T]he Register poll isn't just a description of what's going on. More than any other poll, it actually influences what goes on. Iowans will wake up [today] to find a headline that says, 'Obama Widens Lead Over Clinton.' And, human psychology being what it is, that may well push them into the Obama camp Thursday night."

Stay tuned.

UPDATE Kucinich has come out in support of Obama in Iowa, Edwards has won Ralph Nader's endorsement. Read abut it here.

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Steve Benen is a freelance writer/researcher and creator of The Carpetbagger Report. In addition, he is the lead editor of Salon.com's Blog Report, and has been a contributor to Talking Points Memo, Washington Monthly, Crooks & Liars, The American Prospect, and the Guardian.


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Where is Kucinich on this poll?
Posted by: Ellie1 on Jan 1, 2008 8:38 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The MSM have done a very effective job of marginalizing this intelligent candidate.

As usual the American media SUCKS.

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Kucinich was frozen out of Iowa
Posted by: emccready on Jan 1, 2008 10:49 AM   
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Because he did not open a storefront campaign office in Iowa the powers that be decided that he could not be part of the caucuses.... which i think was just manipulating things once again to keep out the only candidate who is straightforward and who says it like it is...

I am totally pissed at this.. sadly writeins probably don't count...or do they? In any case...usually people don't make that effort!

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» RE: Kucinich was frozen out of Iowa Posted by: peacefullaim
It's Obama's support that is coming in under the radar
Posted by: mhhensel on Jan 1, 2008 11:36 AM   
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There were 6000 people in Linn Co. Iowa that caucused in the last presidential election. That includes Cedar Rapids, Ia. If 50% more show up this time, that would be 9000 people. The Obama campaign had 10,000. tickets out for the Oprah event and 8,500 showed up in a sleet storm. Obama asked the audience how many were going to show up to the caucuses for him? The whole aucience either stood up or raised their hands in overwhelimg support. If these people actually show up, it's all over, Obama wins. I am a precinct captain for Obama. Even with a 50% increase in attendance, 60% have already indicated that they will caucus for Obama. I have Independents and Republicans saying that they will attend. I predict that the new people are going to show up. That means Obama wins Iowa. The poll says that 56% of the 18 to 34 year olds are for Obama. They have cell phones and don't get polled. It also said that in the last election, 17% of them showed up. That was with Senator Kerry running. He put them to sleep. Obama is the first candidate that the younger people have been excited about. More than 17% of them are going to show this time. We will know for sure soon. Stay tuned.

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Polls, polls, polls.
Posted by: johnp on Jan 1, 2008 1:25 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
This surprising poll from Reuters, showing Obama in the lead, has been matched by "two" polls that arrived yesterday, showing Hillary in the lead. The problem is not that the Reuters poll exists, but that it's being touted as definitive by the people that release or publish it. Why? There is no such thing as a definitive poll, days before an election, or where the presumptive leader in that poll, is not "vastly" in the lead. One of the polls showing Hillary in the lead in Iowa, that was released yesterday, was published by Zogby, certainly a reputable pollster, and he clearly states that his poll is only "likely" to be accurate, and the situation is a fluid and essentially unpredictible one. Both Clinton and Edwards certainly have a right to be concerned, when Obama claims victory, when he's depending on extremely unreliable polls, only one of which is showing him in the lead.

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STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES
Posted by: outrider on Jan 1, 2008 4:35 PM   
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If the Reoublicans in Iowa are dumb enough to support Huckabee, it follows that the Democrats in Iowa are crazy enough to support Obama. For the sake of Iowa and the country, we can only hope that the polls are wrong. The last thing we need is a government run by a theocrat or an apprentice.





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» RE: STUPID IS AS STUPID SAYS Posted by: jimidee