Given the public record on this subject and the fact that apparently more than half my fellow Americans do not believe in evolution I think the pertinent question is which of the candidates actually do believe in evolution. Many of them, right and left, have been so busy pandering to religion that I have to wonder if science gets a place at the dinner table with any of them.

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Ron Paul did NOT vote against impeachment, he voted to send the issue to the committee where it belongs and have the committee deal with it and send it out with an approval. THAT IS THE PROCESS AND THAT IS CONSTITUTIONAL.

Having said that, let me say right now...... we are in so damn much trouble in this country, that I don't think most Americans understand just how deep it is. If you think evolution is on the top of my list of important issues, then forget it.

I care about 1. WAR THAT WAS PROMISED TO END IF THE DEMS WON, 2. The currency is going to crash and even though its out there and everyone knows.... the bankers are pushing more and more money into the economy which will eventually crash the dollar with hyperinflation totally out of control. 3. Unemployment will sky rocket as its already done. Why do you think foreclosures are at record levels. It is going to get worse because there is an agenda in the end of North America being unionized with one currency and this is the method, so PLEASE, lets get relevant here.

Who gives a damn about evolution when we may just lose our country. Ron Paul is our only hope and I don't agree with him on several issues, but he is the only HONEST POLITICIAN RUNNING WHO ISN'T AFRAID TO TAKE A STAND. I like edwards and Kucinich, but since Hillary is the annointed, she is going to win and that is more Bush again.... forget it.

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And watch it all the way through to the end. Believe me this is relevant.

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=l7KHUbuhgpQ

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I have spent way too long around libertarians not to see that it is a religion for them in the sense that a religion is a belief system that is received or desired as opposed to being based on reality. For a long time libertarians have opposed evolutionary theory (ie fact) because they believe they are "superior" beings who would rule the world if it weren't for laws protecting the "inferior" peoples. As evidenced by the extreme popularity of The Bell Curve amongst libertarians this denial of evolution is also based on beliefs in "racial superiority" which means they cannot be related to people of African descent. Yes, there are a few Black libertarians but listen closely to their denials of their heritage. We must see libertarians for what they are: religious fanatics similar to Huckabee and the Batshit Baptists and Romney and the Moroni(c) Mormons. Religiosity and Racism have no place in a democracy, but libertarians seek a fascist world ruled by them--the philosopher kings.

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I also am stumped by the pro-Paul feeling on the part of my fellow progressives. So he's more open to matters of personal liberty and less corrupt than other people on the right - he's still on the right. His economic policies are just as savage. To be in support of him because he's the best on the right is STILL putting it in that side's hands to define the issues and the solutions.

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There's no connection. As usual the things that matter are obscured by pseudo-intellectual babbling. Ron Paul has proved that there's a sucker born every minute and two to take him. He has raised alot of money on silly statements that come close to entertainment. He refuses to answer questions put to him. He's no more fit to be the president than I am. He's kind of scary. Thanks, ANNA

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The philosopher of science Ian Hacking did a really fascinating article on evolution for The Nation I think you'll enjoy -- Root and Branch


Most people don't know what a theory is. People discussing evolution or some other science realted controversy should understand that they need to be clear about what a scientific theory actually is.

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Unlike the other whore politicians who pukingly insist THEY are closest to "god", Dr. Paul had consistently kept his raw, religious beliefs to himself, as should all practicing Americans.

So what if he favors a wacko belief? A recent MSNBC poll indicated over 86% of Americans believe in Santa Claus (curiously, the same poll noted far less believe in Jesus!). Anyhow, can I hold that against them?? Are they any less intelligent or pragmatic than others??

Because of how Ron believes the Fed should be structured and his studious reference to Constitutional principles, his personal faith can't play any role in governance matters.

Are we making mountains out of molehills???

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I think it was Ghandi who once said, "First they ignore you; then they laugh at you; then they attack you, then you win". Seems we're at the third stage now. The power-elite will stop at nothing (and I do mean nothing; rememberJFK) to retain power. The closer he gets to getting the nomination the more he will get attacked by the establishment. The corporate-media, all the lobby interests, the Federal Reserve...all the usual suspects. It's not going to work this time. We have turned off the tube of disinformation. We're mad as hell and wont take it anymore. Ron Paul for President.

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another conservative right wing TEXAN in the White House. You Ron Paul zealots are all idiots.

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No offense, but asking why Ron Paul supporters don't get behind Dennis Kucinich is really pointless. Kucinich has a truly honorable voting record and his ideals are great, but the fact is, he is not running to win. He is participating in this race to act as a Pied Piper to keep progressives, Greens and other principled leftists in the Democratic flock to support whoever gets the nomination. I'm absolutely certain that he will support ANYONE the DLC props up as the party standardbearer. That being said, I hope he proves me wrong and joins the Green party or runs as an independent after the Democratic nominee is chosen.

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I am not a Ron Paul supporter but fair is fair. Supporting a border fence is certainly within the bounds of being a libertarian. One of their beliefs is defending our country. Also there are other definitions of the word "theory" than the one stated in this article. So which definition would evolution fall under? Check your dictionaries. And I may add one's belief in evolution is small potatoes compared to other issues on the table.

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I have to say that, as a Ron Paul supporter, I am very surprised to see this. Dr. Paul should know better being that he is a physician. What the hell? I'm sure he's prescribed medications that were invented directly as a result of evolution theory. Very disappointed to see this.

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. . . is a scientific theory that is constantly being refined, clarified, and better supported through scientific methods capable of testing its validity. That same good public education allowed even average students to understand why biblical creation myths do not meet the requirements of scientific theories, cannot be appropriately tested by science given their supernatural underpinnings that require a religious leap of faith as a starting point, and, thus, left most of the population with a reasonable notion of why evolution has no place in a science classroom, let alone being promoted as a plausible theory to be placed on par with evolution in science education and research.

Unfortunately, after decades of attacks on public education by people like Ron Paul, we now turn out enough ignorant and deliberately confused people that half the country can't understand the basic principles that define science or religion, let alone understand how and why the framers of the Constitution chose to separate church and state. A major part of Paul's agenda is to continue that miserable trend.

Ron Paul is opposed to equally available and excellent public education regardless of the ability of parents to pay or the relative wealth of their neighbors. He wants to abolish the Department of Education and leave it up to state, local, and personal funding sources to determine who gets educated and how well. He supports handing over public money, in the form of vouchers and tax refunds, to pay for schooling administered by religious organizations. He has sponsored a school prayer amendment to the Constitution. And he has come out in support of placing Christian creation mythology as on par with evolution in the context of science education.

Any questions? Class dismissed. (Permanently, in many cases, if Paul has his way.)

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Does it appear to anyone else that this clip has been edited to create the effect the writer wants?

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I am not a supporter of Ron Paul whatsoever for a variety of reasons including his anti-choice, anti-separation of church and state and his pro-racist views, but I find myself reluctantly agreeing with him on a variety of issues and this is one of them.

It's worth noting that not even Darwin himself believed completely in his own "theory". Does anyone really believe that we started out as single-celled animals and evolved into the billions of uniquely complex life forms that populate the planet? If so, why haven't all these life forms evolved? Why are primitive life forms still in existence, not having evolved into "higher" life forms? Where is the link between flying dinosaurs and feathered birds?

The problem is that science never completely explains the origin of the species. Nor does the mythology of religion. In my mind the answer must lie somewhere in between but since most people seem inclined to view existence in terms of black and white the "truth" may be confined to the small percentage of humans who can think in "color".

Ron Paul is correct in reminding us that the theory of evolution is in fact only a theory and is true to himself in stating what he personally believes. He didn't say that Darwin's theory is wrong, only said that it has not been conclusively proven. On the other hand it could be a sign that he would promote a creationist agenda if he were elected.

I personally applaud his chutzpah but I cannot support him for president for a host of other reasons.

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Here's what I don't understand, If this idiot doesn't believe in evolution, then he doesn't believe in science. Has it ever occured to this moron that he is using the very science he decries to run his campaign??? How does this guy explain a television signal, or his cell-phone, or any of a thousand other modern conveniences he uses everyday in his life and campaign?? How the hell does he think allof these things came about?? Magic?? LOL, give me a break, will someone please shut these morons up.

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In case people misunderstand me , which I'm sure they will, it is perfectly acceptable to be both spiritual and scientific. For those that bother to get an education, the more one understands how the universe operates, the more beautiful it becomes, the more we can see how interrelated everything is, and how everything works together, maybe the more we can truly appreciate the beauty and wonder of the universe, and the more we can learn to be at peace with ourselves and everything around us. This ignorant, one-sided, close-minded religious crap goes against any true spirituality, and is nothing but egotistical and destructive. Ron Paul, you have the nerve to say you are Christian, and yet in almost the same breathe you talk about war with other peoples on this planet. War equals killing , and I'm not a religious scholar, but I don't remember Jesus ever talking about killing. C'mon, you hypocrites disgust me!!! If anything, things like evolution show the beauty of God's creation , and you fight that??? Get your head out of your ass!!!!

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PRESIDENT RON PAUL
VICE-PRESIDENT KUCINICH/EDWARDS (take your pick)

That's who I will write-in no matter what the corpromedia phony political parties try to force down my throat. This is the revolt they both fear, that we will stop watching their Truman Show produced daily at Washington D.C Studios, Inc. Truly conservative people do not believe in waste... so far, Ron Paul is closer to my core beliefs, arranged by order-of-importance, than any of the front-runners.

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So big deal, Rep. Paul wants to eliminate taxes, welfare, public funded education, social security, medicare, etc, etc, "Survival of the Fitest" says he and to hell with the middle class and the poor. If the poor need help, go to the churches, or private givers, but don't come to the government for any hand outs.

BUT, if there is money left over after the trillion or so dollars are lost following the deletion of the IRS, you better be jolly well certain that his district in Texas is going to get a chunk of it. He may be against those nasty ear marks but by golly he's going to take your tax dollars and spend them at home.

Give me a break. This guy is nuts and while I equally hate this war, and more importantly I want our troops home, I also agree with him that we need to quit meddling in other country's affairs. However Dr. Paul's overall views and opinionss, which he makes are an abomination, and should he gain the office of president, gawd help us even more that with "W"

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.........a deluded dreamer dedicated to those on top at the expense of the others. His disbelief in evolution shows a pitiful lack of education and a pitiful softness on confusing religion with government. I would not vote for him unless he was running against Cheney or some equally evil asshole. Paul is totally disconnected from reality and probably, like the Imbecile-ion-Chief, thinks "god" is talking to him. Get rid of this jackass.

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You bet, Doc Paul. That there eve-oh-loo-shun is just a theory. Like gravity.

Riddle me this, you joker. If evolution's just a theory, why is the flu shot changed on a yearly basis? Perhaps you should forgo yours. Idiot.

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When I first started posting on here, I didn't expect to see so much vitriol. I'm surprised by all the name-calling and personal attacks.

Calling Dr. Paul (or anyone else) stupid isn't adding anything productive to this discussion. Over the past seven years, George Bush's limited intellectual wherewithal has been demonstrated over and over again, and us leftists have jumped on every opportunity to ridicule him for it. But has it gotten us anywhere? He's going to serve out his full two terms regardless of how smart or dim-witted he is.

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I'm amazed and stupified by the level of disinformation puked out by the "liberal democrats" here against Dr. Ron Paul.

They behave just like Republithugs!!!

Look in the mirror, folks!!!!

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The Bible tells us that the mountains were made before the oceans. Why, then, would sea shells be imbedded in the rocks of mountains unless they too were once sea bed? You can nix the flood "theory"; sea shells washed ashore do not imbed themselves in rock...therefore the argument that these mountains were once seabed and then 'rose' to become mountains refutes the sequence of how God made the Earth.

Read "Seashell on The Mountaintop".


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Usually people who care very much for those who live among us and are in need do so quietly and are humbly grateful that we do not have to live with such pain and insidious discomfort. I believe this was the first time I have been moved to remark as such. Believe it or not, there are many truly wonderful caring, thoughtful,concerned people in this world. I have seen it, I've held it and am grateful for it. That is why when I see the "peppering" of Pepper's passion for the likes of Rep. Paul it has struck my own passions more than I can say. Pepper's blind focus on this candidate is unbelievable and I am afraid it has brought out the worst in me! And I don't like it because thru all these last 7 years when things have been so bad, I held out hope that we would get thru this terrible time. Ron Paul is not the answer and I hope that the scruitny of his beliefs, and how he would govern will come to the forefront of any more discussion.

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I am an anthropologist, BA 1972, MA 1973, Ford Foundation Fellowship recipient in 1972 for cultural anthropology as well as for architectural Museum Exhibit Design.

I am certainly not a Christian Rightist and although born Catholic since the new pope came aboard, which I believe to be a fascist, in his support of GWB, I have exited Organized Religion.

However, all of that being said, Evolution is not "Just" a theory. It is a brilliant theory, but it, like all theories is incomplete and has as many holes in it as my college baseball warm-up jacket, and the Big Bang.

The problem is that on both sides of the issue of evolution are people lacking credentials to comment either way. For those with the proper education (MA-PhD) In cultural and physical anthropology, this is not something subject to a vote like the players in the All-Star Baseball game, it is a science and indeed an incomplete science, not a participation sport.

We, who are scientists, cannot defend indefensible positions for religious reasons and believe me, as an academic, I know that both sides of the issue are dogmatic religionists. When Darwin offered his theory he was a rebel, a Leftist of the issue. He is now the establishment, leaving a herd of Neo-con defenders of it.

A scientist cannot be a defender, s/he must always be an innovator, experimenter and NEVER accept the status quo.
The position which I took which helped win my fellowship was that none, including Neanderthal would be shown to contain our DNA, has, now been proven indeed to be correct indicating that there is no unbroken chain of DNA driven evolution from Australopithecus Afarensis to Homo sapiens, nor is there even one from us to our two nearest theoretical ancestors, Homo Erectus or Neanderthal. Evolution, just as the Big Bang is a theory, the best ones we've had in either direction, but a long way from FACT. That is reality. However, defending the losing position that evolution is fact, IS every bit a religious stance, is unscientific and wrong, and saying evolution is meaningless is also a religious stance and equally wrong and equally unscientific.

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I agree that Ron Paul is not correct regarding the modern theory of evolution. It isn't really "just a theory". As a matter of science, it isn't a theory at all. It doesn't even qualify as a poor hypothesis or, even a good fairytale.

I challenge Manila Rice and or anyone else on this blog to provide documented verifiable evidence that the pyramids of Egypt, the Taj Mahal or anything else known to human experience, has ever designed itself from the top down.

According to modern Darwinian theory, the universe is a product of "random occurring", "self-selecting", "designerless" processes. These are all terms used by modern proponents of Darwinian theory, I did not invent them.

Since there is no evidence that the universe is a product of designerless processes, the modern theory of evolution remains a complete fabrication, devoid of sanity, reason and logic, not to mention, common monkey sense.

Again, I challenge Manila Rice and the liars on this blog to provide documented verifiable evidence that anything known to human experience has ever designed itself from the top down, whether it be the universe itself or, anything smaller known to humanity.

If you have no evidence for your absurd claims, then you remain bigger liars than George Bush, Dick Cheney and Pat Robertson and/or, Ron Paul, every hoped to be. And, that is no small accomplishment.

Richard Aberdeen
FreedomTracks.com

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I remain highly suspect of people who pretend they are more "qualified" than others to provide a response, as if they somehow have a window into what is true that others do not have equal access to. The more degrees they claim to have, the less credible I assume them to be, as having a degree does not make one either qualified or correct, any more than being president makes Junior Bushwhacker either qualified or correct.

I agree that Ron Paul is not correct regarding the modern theory of evolution. It isn't really "just a theory". As a matter of science, it isn't a theory at all. It doesn't even qualify as a poor hypothesis or, even a good fairytale.

I challenge Manila Rice and or anyone else on this blog to provide documented verifiable evidence that the pyramids of Egypt, the Taj Mahal or anything else known to human experience, has ever designed itself from the top down.

According to modern Darwinian theory, the universe is a product of "random occurring", "self-selecting", "designerless" processes. These are all terms used by modern proponents of Darwinian theory, I did not invent them.

Since there is no evidence that the universe is a product of designerless processes, the modern theory of evolution remains a complete fabrication, devoid of sanity, reason and logic, not to mention, common monkey sense.

Again, I challenge Manila Rice and the liars on this blog to provide documented verifiable evidence that anything known to human experience has ever designed itself from the top down, whether it be the universe itself or, anything smaller known to humanity.

If you have no evidence for your absurd claims, then you remain bigger liars than George Bush, Dick Cheney and Pat Robertson and/or, Ron Paul, every hoped to be. And, that is no small accomplishment.

Richard Aberdeen
FreedomTracks.com

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Yeah Paul, gravity is "just" a theory too!

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Just one more reason to vote for Ron Paul. I guess some folks are just waiting for their brain to evolve before they can understand the absurdity of evolution. Just the other morning I woke up and my cat had evolved into a dog....boy was I really ticked off with a cubbard full cat food!!!! Who knows what she will be in a 100 million years from now. Come on ....... I am a product of a Creator God. Who created me in His image. Please forgive the sarcasim about your brains evolving and my cat- but don't take the garbage we were fed in school and take it for the truth. I would like to recommend a dvd by Prof. Walter J Veith. He was once an atheistic evolutionst who taught the evolution theory as fact....but was able to be opened minded enough to see the absurdity of a complicated being starting out as a molecule of slime. Think about it. Better yet get his dvd and Amazing Discoveries.org --From Evolutionist to Creationist ....my most difficult journey ..by Professor Walter J Veith. God created all men in his image. We are the ones who have chosen to bear the corrupt image of the deceiver.
Sincerely
Debbier

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As I warned in my 12/19/2007 Opednews.com Essay, ”Confessions of a Defecting Democrat -- Why Ron Paul is the Perfect Candidate, and How the Left Media Will be USED to Attack Him,” the swiftboating of Ron Paul has begun.

Former CIA Director, William Colby, once said, "The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media."

Alternet, the so called “left” online magazine, which has gone out of its way to attack anyone questioning the official myth of 9/11, has out done itself in swiftboating the ONE CANDIDATE who threatens the US/CIA globalist militarist empire, Ron Paul.

The “reporting” by Alternet, is bizarre to say the least. Here’s one example, of the Alternet attack piece on Ron Paul,

“He's against the occupation of Iraq, yet claims to be from Texas. Understanding Paul is like trying to nail jello to a tree, and yet that doesn't seem to matter to the majority of his supporters who still don't have a full picture of their savior."

They smear Paul with unfounded innuendo about church state issues and the fact that someone distasteful, a white supremacist, sent him some money (as if when you raise $18 million in one quarter you know line by line where the average donations come from. Paul’s average donation is $52). Hellooooo? Do you have any idea how much distasteful corporate interest money is going to the top tear GOP & Democrats (not Ron Paul)?

According to the Huffington Post, the defense industry this year abandoned its decade-long commitment to the Republican Party, funneling the lion share of its contributions to Democratic presidential candidates, especially to Hillary Clinton who far out-paced all her competitors.

In this same article it points out that Ron Paul got over $18,000 in military donations, but for some reason the “left” Huffington Post doesn’t explain that those didn’t come from the military industry, but from combat soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.

WHY did they send them to Paul? Because Ron Paul wants to get them the hell out of Iraq and Afghanistan, while the Democratic frontrunners only want to pair down the troops in Iraq and leave the troops in Afghanistan.

Now, why would the “left/progressive” media leave that detail out?

Alternet talks about electability, but forgets to mention that Ron Paul has been breaking fundraising records, with average donations of $52 non-corporate dollars, unlike the top tear Dems money (GOP is corporate bought and sold, goes without saying, except for Ron Paul).

For decades the US/CIA global militarist machine has made trillions annually from making certain that corrupt leaders run developing countries so that corporate interests can loot their resources and have slave labor market worldwide (see Syrianna).

The training, support, and ongoing aid to these thugs is paid for, not by the corporations, but by hard working Americans who see less than zero benefit from paying for globalist corporate security guards hired to keep people down worldwide. In fact, the American standard of living declines when American workers must compete with slave labor markets worldwide, their tax dollars are used to keep in that state.

Since the US “drug war” in Columbia began, and US military training and resources began to pour in, the murder rate of union organizers has skyrocketed.

When our so-called “progressive/left” media swiftboats the ONLY candidate who threatens the globalist corporate military empire that is ruining our nation and causing global suffering . . . my mind drifts back to CIA Director William Colby’s words . . .

“The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media."
-- Former CIA Director, William Colby

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web site Orcinus. But of course you can go directly to the congressional record.
Current rating: 4 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]

-- He would deny the use of the Federal court system -- and even Federal precedent -- to people discriminated against because of their religious beliefs or sexual orientation. This would also limit the cross-state recognition of same-sex marriages. Some of these bills he cynically calls this the "We the People Act".

H.R.300: To limit the jurisdiction of the Federal courts, and for other purposes.

H.R.4379: To limit the jurisdiction of the Federal courts, and for other purposes.

H.R.5739: To limit the jurisdiction of the Federal courts, and for other purposes.

H.R.3893: To limit the jurisdiction of the Federal courts, and for other purposes.

H.R.1547: To restore first amendment protections of religion and religious speech.

H.R.4922: To restore first amendment protections of religion and speech.

H.R.5078: To restore first amendment protections of religion and speech.

-- This includes limits on courts' hearing cases related to abortion, and he has introduced bills specific to these kinds of cases. He also uses the deceptive term "partial-birth abortion".

H.R.1545: To prohibit Federal officials from paying any Federal funds to any individual or entity that performs partial-birth abortions.

H.R.1546: To provide that the inferior courts of the United States do not have jurisdiction to hear abortion-related cases.

H.R.2875: To provide that the inferior courts of the United States do not have jurisdiction to hear abortion-related cases.

H.R.3400: To provide that the inferior courts of the United States do not have jurisdiction to hear abortion-related cases.

H.R.3691: To provide that the inferior courts of the United States do not have jurisdiction to hear partial-birth abortion-related cases.

H.R.15169: A bill to eliminate the appellate jurisdiction of the U.S. Supreme Court with respect to certain abortion cases.

-- Even though he claims to be a "libertarian", he opposes people's freedom to burn or destroy their own copies of the design of the U.S. flag

H.J.RES.80: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States authorizing the States to prohibit the physical destruction of the flag of the United States and authorizing Congress to prohibit destruction of federally owned flags.

H.J.RES.82: Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States authorizing the States to prohibit the physical destruction of the flag of the United States and authorizing Congress to prohibit destruction of federally owned flags.

LAWS IMPROVING THE LOT OF THE WORKING CLASS

-- He has tried to repeal the Occupational Safety and Health Act:

H.R.2310: A bill to repeal the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970.

H.R.13264: A bill to repeal the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970

-- He would like to make it much easier to decertify labor unions:

H.R.694: To amend the National Labor Relations Act to permit elections to decertify representation by a labor organization.

-- He opposes the Minimum Wage:

H.R.2962: A bill to repeal all authority of the Federal Government to regulate wages in private employment.

-- He would deny the prevailing wage to employees of federal contractors, and remove prohibition on kickbacks in Federal projects:

H.R.736: To repeal the Davis-Bacon Act and the Copeland Act.
This is just a peak at things ron paul has proposed. Also check his voting record, but sit down first.

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As to the Hypothesis of Evolution (Remember – never proven) -- I suggest one starts with the latest in Genome Research: "Soon or later", Professor Chang says "we have to come to grips with the unbelievable notion that every life on Earth carries genetic code for his extraterrestrial cousin and that evolution is not what we think it is."
Professor Chang is only one of many scientists and other researchers who have discovered extraterrestrial origins to Humanity. Exo-scientists are critically inspired by the work of Nobel Laureate -- Dr. Francis Crick. SEE: http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage
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In his book Life Itself: Its Origins and Nature (1981), Crick -- a Nobel prize-winner and the co-founder of the shape of the DNA molecule -- claimed an advanced civilisation transported the seeds of life to Earth in a spacecraft. Dr. Francis Crick who posits an extraterrestrial origin for life on Earth, is not alone in this viewpoint within the scientific community. The same year that Life Itself was published (1981), Sir Fred Hoyle authored Life from Space, in which he took essentially the same position. In fact, in an article that year in the Journal "Nature", he wrote: "The likelihood of the formation of life from inanimate mater is one to a number with 40,000 noughts after it.... It is big enough to bury Darwin and the whole theory of evolution. There was no primeval soup, neither on this planet nor on any other, and if the beginnings of life were not random, they must therefore have been the product of purposeful intelligence." (Hoyle: 1981, 294:148).
SEE: http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home
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I would Rest My Case with the Pre-eminent Journal "Science": Science 2 June 2006:
Vol. 312. no. 5778, pp. 1355 – 1359 DOI: 10.1126/science.1124234
RESEARCH ARTICLES
Metagenomic Analysis of the Human Distal Gut Microbiome
The study maps the genes of the estimated 500 or more species that live inside us. About a quarter of these genes appear to belong to unknown species. EMPHASIS -- UNKNOWN SPECIES – I further suggest that adherents to Manila Ryce’s comment as to “9th Grade Science” of Evolution (purely hypothetical) -- do some research as to where Species enters into the equation of Our Microbiota – which fully exceed 10 Times the number of Human Cells of Body - Science 2 June 2006 – Again, for which about 25% its genes (which number more than 100 times that of the Human Genome) are of an “Unknown Species”.

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I SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS VIDEO!

Evolution IS only a theory...to try to deny that is ridiculous.

This issue is not even registering on my radar screen for "important issues" for our nation, the Presidency, and our country's future! Get a grip, Alternet.

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Of war, because the anti-war people can't stop bickering. Yay. Glad I'm leaving the country.


A pox on ALL of your houses.

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Maybe Ron Paul would be interested to know that Newtonian Mechanics is a theory. As are theories of disease propagation. And relativity. Incidentally, evolution is quite easily tested and proved in a lab.

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Ron Paul is a medical doctor.

I'm not one, but several friends are, and I've talked to them over the years at some length about this conclusion, with which they agree:

Medical doctors are not, generally speaking, scientists.

Oh, a few are involved in research, and they get the nod. They have to know how to navigate the peer review process and push back the frontiers of knowledge. They're scientists.

But most simply attended medical school, memorized and regurgitated, put in their time in residency, and are now practicing cookbook medicine. They follow the manuals. They are heavily influenced by drug advertising. Many spend 15 minutes on average with each patient; it's a stretch just to note their symptoms and prescribe drugs in such a short time.

Doctors must excel at following accepted medical procedures so as to avoid possible follow-on challenge in a civil suit. That's now the gold standard by which most doctors are judged. The few on the fringes, wrestling with the unknown, applying the scientific method, proposing and testing hypotheses, are the exceptions.

I can put it another way. Most high school biology teachers are not scientists. They're teachers. They follow a lesson plan, they explain terms, but they are not engaged in research and have never applied the scientific method themselves to push back the frontiers of human knowledge. (But there are rare exceptions - high school biology teachers who *are* engaged in research. I knew one: he was part of a national bird banding program, and he enlisted his students to help. Lucky students!)

I make this point to clarify what Ron Paul is not. He is not a practicing scientist. He is heir to scientific knowledge, but then, so is everyone who uses a hair dryer.

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Guys...Ron Paul is a medical doctor with a degree in biology. There is no such thing as a medical doctor OR a biologist who does not believe in evolution. End of discussion.

He's lying because he doesn't want to alienate the huge number of fundamentalist supporters who like him because his siblings are members of the clergy. It's the oldest known political trick - tell the stupid folks what you think they want to hear.

Because if you vote based on what a politician says about evolution, you are a damn fool. Ron Paul understands that there are much more pressing issues facing the country, and is probably banking on the intelligent folks realizing this. Do not waste time demanding lip service. Be glad that's all it takes to get some people on your side!

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First off this video is edited at the 30 second mark, someone is trying to influence us.

But as per this discussion,
I think Dr. Paul's response was appropriate, ESPECIALLY considering the Christian Right vote is the main vote he is lacking and which he needs to become President. He already has the anti-war vote, the internet-freedom vote, the anti-drug-war vote, the economic literacy vote, and libertarian vote.

Paul is also absolutely correct in stating that Darwinian evolution is a theory, just like Einsteinian relativity. The theory of evolution, while logical and true, is incomplete in terms of explaining the existence of life, intelligence and beauty. And while 'intelligent design' is a catch-phrase co-opted by Creationists and monotheists, I would bet most scientists have a spiritual side and do not doubt the tremendously mysterious aspects of time and space.
Speaking of EVOLUTION; we are, after all, when it comes to scientific understanding, infants. We just started a few centuries ago and hopefully we will have many more centuries in which to grow.

Vote Ron Paul!
It's the only 'natural selection'!

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is an oxymoron. Every explanation proposed through the scientific method is a theory, not an absolute fact. Modern physicists, for instance, are making discoveries that fly in the face of so much theory we accepted as fact, and that's just one field of science. I think that "belief" and "theory," that is, religion and experimentation are two separate methods of explanation, both of which approach absolute fact, but don't touch it fully. Arguably, "theory" holds more objective weight than "belief," but equally so, "belief" holds more subjective weight than "theory." Subjectivity exists, and scientists have to accept the validity of belief before believers will ever accept the validity of theory. I think many believers don't even accept the validity of belief, can't be at peace with subjective truth, so they try to make a "theory" out of their belief, to somehow prove something to the world. You don't have to prove your love for God and His creation by trying to make it scientific. Your love for Him gives you human warmth all by itself.

As far as evolution goes, however, scientifically judging the situation, the theory of evolution holds a lot more water than the theory of intelligent design, which isn't really a theory anyway, since it's centered around the belief that all life was made by a loving, omnipotent creator - a beautiful belief that I can't discredit from the space of my heart - but untouchable by the realm of science and experimental theory.

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I was actually beginning to like Ron Paul, but he has clearly compromised any consititionalist scruples he may have to follow the GOP line.

DaN

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Call me conservative or a bigot or whatever y'all want, but I don't believe in evolution either. To me it doesn't make sense. Maybe I'm an idiot, but that doesn't bother me because I am comfortable with my beliefs. Am I such a horrible person for not believing in evolution? BTW, I'm not a Ron Paul supporter and I'm majoring in chemistry so I'm not a science hater. The point I'm trying to make in between all my rambling is that if someone doesn't believe in evolution, it does not make that person an incompetent person.

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"Perhaps we should exercise a bit of intelligent design ourselves by elected a president with at least an elementary school understanding of what constitutes scientific fact this time around, and not someone who thinks "both sides" are equally credible."

Anyone who writes for a living needs to understand basic elementary grammar. Why is elected in past-tense? Don't write smear articles until you at least learn your basic rules of grammar. Also, while I believe in evolution, it is true that it is simply a theory. There is alot of evidence supporting this particular theory, but there are also gaping holes in this theory. Why does it matter if he believes in evolution anyways? Many Christians would tell you that God created the Earth 6,000 years ago and put dinosaur fossils here to test their faith. I think that sounds like a fairy-tale that most 7 year olds would see through, but to each his own, right?

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