Given the public record on this subject and the fact that apparently more than half my fellow Americans do not believe in evolution I think the pertinent question is which of the candidates actually do believe in evolution. Many of them, right and left, have been so busy pandering to religion that I have to wonder if science gets a place at the dinner table with any of them.

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Ron Paul did NOT vote against impeachment, he voted to send the issue to the committee where it belongs and have the committee deal with it and send it out with an approval. THAT IS THE PROCESS AND THAT IS CONSTITUTIONAL.

Having said that, let me say right now...... we are in so damn much trouble in this country, that I don't think most Americans understand just how deep it is. If you think evolution is on the top of my list of important issues, then forget it.

I care about 1. WAR THAT WAS PROMISED TO END IF THE DEMS WON, 2. The currency is going to crash and even though its out there and everyone knows.... the bankers are pushing more and more money into the economy which will eventually crash the dollar with hyperinflation totally out of control. 3. Unemployment will sky rocket as its already done. Why do you think foreclosures are at record levels. It is going to get worse because there is an agenda in the end of North America being unionized with one currency and this is the method, so PLEASE, lets get relevant here.

Who gives a damn about evolution when we may just lose our country. Ron Paul is our only hope and I don't agree with him on several issues, but he is the only HONEST POLITICIAN RUNNING WHO ISN'T AFRAID TO TAKE A STAND. I like edwards and Kucinich, but since Hillary is the annointed, she is going to win and that is more Bush again.... forget it.

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And watch it all the way through to the end. Believe me this is relevant.

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=l7KHUbuhgpQ

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I have spent way too long around libertarians not to see that it is a religion for them in the sense that a religion is a belief system that is received or desired as opposed to being based on reality. For a long time libertarians have opposed evolutionary theory (ie fact) because they believe they are "superior" beings who would rule the world if it weren't for laws protecting the "inferior" peoples. As evidenced by the extreme popularity of The Bell Curve amongst libertarians this denial of evolution is also based on beliefs in "racial superiority" which means they cannot be related to people of African descent. Yes, there are a few Black libertarians but listen closely to their denials of their heritage. We must see libertarians for what they are: religious fanatics similar to Huckabee and the Batshit Baptists and Romney and the Moroni(c) Mormons. Religiosity and Racism have no place in a democracy, but libertarians seek a fascist world ruled by them--the philosopher kings.

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I also am stumped by the pro-Paul feeling on the part of my fellow progressives. So he's more open to matters of personal liberty and less corrupt than other people on the right - he's still on the right. His economic policies are just as savage. To be in support of him because he's the best on the right is STILL putting it in that side's hands to define the issues and the solutions.

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There's no connection. As usual the things that matter are obscured by pseudo-intellectual babbling. Ron Paul has proved that there's a sucker born every minute and two to take him. He has raised alot of money on silly statements that come close to entertainment. He refuses to answer questions put to him. He's no more fit to be the president than I am. He's kind of scary. Thanks, ANNA

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The philosopher of science Ian Hacking did a really fascinating article on evolution for The Nation I think you'll enjoy -- Root and Branch


Most people don't know what a theory is. People discussing evolution or some other science realted controversy should understand that they need to be clear about what a scientific theory actually is.

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Unlike the other whore politicians who pukingly insist THEY are closest to "god", Dr. Paul had consistently kept his raw, religious beliefs to himself, as should all practicing Americans.

So what if he favors a wacko belief? A recent MSNBC poll indicated over 86% of Americans believe in Santa Claus (curiously, the same poll noted far less believe in Jesus!). Anyhow, can I hold that against them?? Are they any less intelligent or pragmatic than others??

Because of how Ron believes the Fed should be structured and his studious reference to Constitutional principles, his personal faith can't play any role in governance matters.

Are we making mountains out of molehills???

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I think it was Ghandi who once said, "First they ignore you; then they laugh at you; then they attack you, then you win". Seems we're at the third stage now. The power-elite will stop at nothing (and I do mean nothing; rememberJFK) to retain power. The closer he gets to getting the nomination the more he will get attacked by the establishment. The corporate-media, all the lobby interests, the Federal Reserve...all the usual suspects. It's not going to work this time. We have turned off the tube of disinformation. We're mad as hell and wont take it anymore. Ron Paul for President.

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another conservative right wing TEXAN in the White House. You Ron Paul zealots are all idiots.

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No offense, but asking why Ron Paul supporters don't get behind Dennis Kucinich is really pointless. Kucinich has a truly honorable voting record and his ideals are great, but the fact is, he is not running to win. He is participating in this race to act as a Pied Piper to keep progressives, Greens and other principled leftists in the Democratic flock to support whoever gets the nomination. I'm absolutely certain that he will support ANYONE the DLC props up as the party standardbearer. That being said, I hope he proves me wrong and joins the Green party or runs as an independent after the Democratic nominee is chosen.

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I am not a Ron Paul supporter but fair is fair. Supporting a border fence is certainly within the bounds of being a libertarian. One of their beliefs is defending our country. Also there are other definitions of the word "theory" than the one stated in this article. So which definition would evolution fall under? Check your dictionaries. And I may add one's belief in evolution is small potatoes compared to other issues on the table.

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I have to say that, as a Ron Paul supporter, I am very surprised to see this. Dr. Paul should know better being that he is a physician. What the hell? I'm sure he's prescribed medications that were invented directly as a result of evolution theory. Very disappointed to see this.

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. . . is a scientific theory that is constantly being refined, clarified, and better supported through scientific methods capable of testing its validity. That same good public education allowed even average students to understand why biblical creation myths do not meet the requirements of scientific theories, cannot be appropriately tested by science given their supernatural underpinnings that require a religious leap of faith as a starting point, and, thus, left most of the population with a reasonable notion of why evolution has no place in a science classroom, let alone being promoted as a plausible theory to be placed on par with evolution in science education and research.

Unfortunately, after decades of attacks on public education by people like Ron Paul, we now turn out enough ignorant and deliberately confused people that half the country can't understand the basic principles that define science or religion, let alone understand how and why the framers of the Constitution chose to separate church and state. A major part of Paul's agenda is to continue that miserable trend.

Ron Paul is opposed to equally available and excellent public education regardless of the ability of parents to pay or the relative wealth of their neighbors. He wants to abolish the Department of Education and leave it up to state, local, and personal funding sources to determine who gets educated and how well. He supports handing over public money, in the form of vouchers and tax refunds, to pay for schooling administered by religious organizations. He has sponsored a school prayer amendment to the Constitution. And he has come out in support of placing Christian creation mythology as on par with evolution in the context of science education.

Any questions? Class dismissed. (Permanently, in many cases, if Paul has his way.)

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Does it appear to anyone else that this clip has been edited to create the effect the writer wants?

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I am not a supporter of Ron Paul whatsoever for a variety of reasons including his anti-choice, anti-separation of church and state and his pro-racist views, but I find myself reluctantly agreeing with him on a variety of issues and this is one of them.

It's worth noting that not even Darwin himself believed completely in his own "theory". Does anyone really believe that we started out as single-celled animals and evolved into the billions of uniquely complex life forms that populate the planet? If so, why haven't all these life forms evolved? Why are primitive life forms still in existence, not having evolved into "higher" life forms? Where is the link between flying dinosaurs and feathered birds?

The problem is that science never completely explains the origin of the species. Nor does the mythology of religion. In my mind the answer must lie somewhere in between but since most people seem inclined to view existence in terms of black and white the "truth" may be confined to the small percentage of humans who can think in "color".

Ron Paul is correct in reminding us that the theory of evolution is in fact only a theory and is true to himself in stating what he personally believes. He didn't say that Darwin's theory is wrong, only said that it has not been conclusively proven. On the other hand it could be a sign that he would promote a creationist agenda if he were elected.

I personally applaud his chutzpah but I cannot support him for president for a host of other reasons.

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Here's what I don't understand, If this idiot doesn't believe in evolution, then he doesn't believe in science. Has it ever occured to this moron that he is using the very science he decries to run his campaign??? How does this guy explain a television signal, or his cell-phone, or any of a thousand other modern conveniences he uses everyday in his life and campaign?? How the hell does he think allof these things came about?? Magic?? LOL, give me a break, will someone please shut these morons up.

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In case people misunderstand me , which I'm sure they will, it is perfectly acceptable to be both spiritual and scientific. For those that bother to get an education, the more one understands how the universe operates, the more beautiful it becomes, the more we can see how interrelated everything is, and how everything works together, maybe the more we can truly appreciate the beauty and wonder of the universe, and the more we can learn to be at peace with ourselves and everything around us. This ignorant, one-sided, close-minded religious crap goes against any true spirituality, and is nothing but egotistical and destructive. Ron Paul, you have the nerve to say you are Christian, and yet in almost the same breathe you talk about war with other peoples on this planet. War equals killing , and I'm not a religious scholar, but I don't remember Jesus ever talking about killing. C'mon, you hypocrites disgust me!!! If anything, things like evolution show the beauty of God's creation , and you fight that??? Get your head out of your ass!!!!

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PRESIDENT RON PAUL
VICE-PRESIDENT KUCINICH/EDWARDS (take your pick)

That's who I will write-in no matter what the corpromedia phony political parties try to force down my throat. This is the revolt they both fear, that we will stop watching their Truman Show produced daily at Washington D.C Studios, Inc. Truly conservative people do not believe in waste... so far, Ron Paul is closer to my core beliefs, arranged by order-of-importance, than any of the front-runners.

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So big deal, Rep. Paul wants to eliminate taxes, welfare, public funded education, social security, medicare, etc, etc, "Survival of the Fitest" says he and to hell with the middle class and the poor. If the poor need help, go to the churches, or private givers, but don't come to the government for any hand outs.

BUT, if there is money left over after the trillion or so dollars are lost following the deletion of the IRS, you better be jolly well certain that his district in Texas is going to get a chunk of it. He may be against those nasty ear marks but by golly he's going to take your tax dollars and spend them at home.

Give me a break. This guy is nuts and while I equally hate this war, and more importantly I want our troops home, I also agree with him that we need to quit meddling in other country's affairs. However Dr. Paul's overall views and opinionss, which he makes are an abomination, and should he gain the office of president, gawd help us even more that with "W"

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.........a deluded dreamer dedicated to those on top at the expense of the others. His disbelief in evolution shows a pitiful lack of education and a pitiful softness on confusing religion with government. I would not vote for him unless he was running against Cheney or some equally evil asshole. Paul is totally disconnected from reality and probably, like the Imbecile-ion-Chief, thinks "god" is talking to him. Get rid of this jackass.

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You bet, Doc Paul. That there eve-oh-loo-shun is just a theory. Like gravity.

Riddle me this, you joker. If evolution's just a theory, why is the flu shot changed on a yearly basis? Perhaps you should forgo yours. Idiot.

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When I first started posting on here, I didn't expect to see so much vitriol. I'm surprised by all the name-calling and personal attacks.

Calling Dr. Paul (or anyone else) stupid isn't adding anything productive to this discussion. Over the past seven years, George Bush's limited intellectual wherewithal has been demonstrated over and over again, and us leftists have jumped on every opportunity to ridicule him for it. But has it gotten us anywhere? He's going to serve out his full two terms regardless of how smart or dim-witted he is.

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