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Huckabee Claims "If Anything," We Treat Inmates at Gitmo "Too Nice"

Posted by Matt Corley, Think Progress at 2:06 PM on December 21, 2007.


FBI agents who worked there have said detainees were subjected to harsh conditions, including "the use of growling dogs" to "intimidate detainees."
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During a campaign stop in Iowa today, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee commented on the conditions at the military detention center in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, saying that "the inmates there were getting a whole lot better treatment" than "prisoners in Arkansas." "I hope our guys don't see this," added Huckabee. "They'll all want to be transferred to Guanatanmo."

"If anything, it's too nice," said Huckabee:

"The inmates there were getting a whole lot better treatment than my prisoners in Arkansas. In fact, we left saying, 'I hope our guys don't see this. They'll all want to be transferred to Guanatanmo.' If anything, it's too nice."

Huckabee has said Guantanamo is more a "symbolic issue" than anything else since the detainees are treated better than prisoners in the US.

Huckabee, who recently came out in favor of closing Guantanamo, has made similar comparisons in the past.

In June, Huckabee said on CNN's Late Edition that "most of our prisoners would love to be in a facility more like Guantanamo." At the time, he said we couldn't close the facility because hypothetically, "if we let somebody out" they could "come and fly an airliner into one of our skyscrapers."

Huckabee may have seen "nice" conditions when he visited Guantanamo. But FBI agents who worked at the facility have reported that detainees were subjected to harsh conditions, including "the use of growling dogs" to "intimidate detainees," at least as recently as 2004:

Detainees at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, were shackled to the floor in fetal positions for more than 24 hours at a time, left without food and water, and allowed to defecate on themselves, an FBI agent who said he witnessed such abuse reported in a memo to supervisors.

A recently released operations manual for the prison, dated March 28, 2003, "indicates that some prisoners were hidden from Red Cross representatives." Presumably, such "no-access" detainees would have been hidden from visitors like Huckabee as well.

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Matt Corley is a Research Associate for The Progress Report and ThinkProgress.org at the Center for American Progress.


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Except for one little thing
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Dec 21, 2007 2:57 PM   
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Guantanamo detainees probably DO have it better than most stateside inmates.

The little thing? Uh, what was that?

Oh yeah, torture. No recourse to the courts.

Of course conditions in many of our US jails have been ruled "Cruel and unusual" by federal courts (before the wingnut takeover) and access to the courts is mostly theoretical for the vast majority of inmates, guilty or innocent.

Come to think of it, Huckabee may be right after all - just not in the way he meant. In any case, nothing to brag about.

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Of course...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Dec 21, 2007 3:00 PM   
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... Lets just ignore the fact that the guys in Guantanemo have had NO trial, have not even been charged with any crime, have no idea when if ever they will be released, and were in fact locked up before any idea of how they would be dealt with outside of lifelong imprisonment was even thought about. This is quite a bit different from Arkansas prison populations who have gone through a trial and been convicted and who have a set maximum date for their release... and they know why they are there.. and can actually appeal their detention in court.

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too true, josh!
Posted by: mammamaia on Dec 21, 2007 3:20 PM   
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as for hucksterbee, it's too bad there's no cure for stupidity...

love and hugs, maia
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» RE: too true, josh! Posted by: Sissy
Outrider
Posted by: outrider on Dec 21, 2007 9:47 PM   
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There is no way one can be a true believer and also accept Huckabee, Romney, or any other candidate claiming to be a Christian as a true believer. Republicans are not only rewriting the Constitution. They are rewriting the Bible. Diogenes was the man who walked the streets of Athens, Greece, during the day time, with a lighted lantern -- looking for an honest man. ... A "practicing Christian" amongst the Republican candidates and their followers would be just as hard to find in this day and age.

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more bad news about Huckabee
Posted by: wawa on Dec 22, 2007 7:15 AM   
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Huckabee is not a Christian.

He is an adherent of the heretical putrid theology of Christian Zionism, which is NOT Christian at all.



Reported by Stan Moody on Dec. 20, 2007 and published @

http://www.countercurrents.org/moody201207.htm


When asked in New Hampshire about a Palestinian state, Huckabee stated that he supports creating a Palestinian state, but believes that it should be formed outside of Israel.


He named Egypt and Saudi Arabia as possible alternatives, noting that the Arabs have far more land than the Israelis and that it would only be fair for other Arab nations to give the Palestinians land for a state, rather than carving it out of the tiny Israeli state.

By re-defining the boundaries of Israel to be vastly beyond those officially recognized by international law and by opposing a land-for-peace exchange, Huckabee unmasks himself to be a Christian Zionist.



By offering a solution not unlike that envisioned by 19th century Americans to the slavery question and carried out against Native Americans, Huckabee essentially dehumanizes the Palestinians in his scheme to transport them elsewhere.

There are a number of courageous people on the West Bank. Here are proposed Huckabee apologies to a few of those:

To Zougbhi Zoughbi, founder and Director of Wi'am, the Palestinian Center for Conflict Resolution and a committed Christian who has been jailed 18 times, "Pack your bags, Zoughbi, you're headed for the Saudi desert so that a Christian America can complete Israel's prophetic mission."

To gentle, forgiving George Sa'adeh, Deputy Mayor of Bethlehem and Principal of a Greek Orthodox high school, "Your story began with a simple shopping trip with your wife and two daughters on March 23, 2003, and ended with four hundred bullet holes in your car, your twelve-year-old daughter, Christine, dead, and you and her sister, Marianna, severely wounded courtesy of exploding bullets from the guns of IDF (Israeli Defense Force) soldiers. America has its eye on your future."

To Dr. Bishara Awad, founder and President of Bethlehem Bible College, "You have fought a good fight, but you stand in the way of biblical prophecy and are squatting on God's land. Henceforth there is reserved for you an oasis in the Saudi desert."

To Dr. Mitri Raheb, Lutheran pastor in Bethlehem who miraculously survived the Israeli shelling of Manger Square two days after Easter 2002, thank you for the International Center and for your good deeds. We will see that you get a pastorate in the Saudi desert."

To Sami Awad, Executive Director of Holy Land Trust in Bethlehem, "You can plant all the trees you want in your new homeland."

To the Magi from Persia (Iran) come to see the place where the Christ-child lay, "We are sorry, but there is no room for you in the Inn."


Public Service message from a Christian of the Beatitudes who has been to Israel Palestine 5 times since June 2005 and has interviewed George Sa'adeh, Sami Awad, and Rev. Dr. Mitri Raheb.
Reports on WAWA:
http://www.wearewideawake.org/

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Yuck
Posted by: Grandma Crabby on Dec 22, 2007 7:51 AM   
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Huckabee as president would be an absolute disaster.

I am appalled at virtually everything that springs forth from his mouth.

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Huckabee needs desperately to be
Posted by: thekidde on Dec 22, 2007 7:53 AM   
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waterboarded until he forsakes his religious beliefs. Then, when confronted with this, asked if torture works.

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skysage
Posted by: Skysage on Dec 22, 2007 12:33 PM   
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God help us. Where have all the real Americans gone? Huckabee sounds like he would be another dictator who does not respect the rights of others. There are many prisoners at GITMO who do not belong there, just as their many innocent people in our prisons who don't belong there. Huckabee shows lack of humanity and one with a dark heart. We should not tolerate such intolerance in any so-called leader of our country. Go away, Huckabee.

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It's time for Huckleberry to take his corn cob pipe and shuffle off with Jim down the Mississip'...
Posted by: xbj on Dec 22, 2007 1:05 PM   
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WAY beyond time. BEFORE the hazards of being a Baptist preacher in the glare of a million press flashbulbs commences the inevitable exposure of what Baptist preachers just do as a matter of course.

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Huckabee is perfect for America
Posted by: Richard House on Dec 23, 2007 3:37 AM   
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Publicly, at least 90% of Americans believe in a sky-god. That they are a Christian nation. Christianity is a totalitarian system where your thoughts and actions are under constant surveillance so no changes would have to be made in our current society.

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Outrider
Posted by: outrider on Dec 23, 2007 12:32 PM   
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OBAMA VERSUS HUCKABEE?

Huckabee is a certifiable nut as are any who would vote for him. His rantings and ravings are not newsworthy so why is the media continuing to give him so much coverage. The MIC (military/industrial complex) owns the media. Bush and Cheney will not be around to do MIC's bidding but they have no intention of abandonning their neoconservative goal of making the United States a militaristic empire ruled by MIC's chosen elite. Forget the Constitution.

The military/industrial complex, aka MIC, is difficult to define but it is ever present when affairs affecting the goal of its members, a militaristic empire which controls the world's markets, wealth and power, is threatened. War is their business. So when the media, MIC's public relations and propaganda medium, is for or against something or somebody, that something or somebody is directly or indirectly affecting their goal. MIC wants another Bush-Cheney combination but they will not get anything like it short of a coup d'etat. Their choice will be somebody they know they can manage and control AND is electable like the medicine man, Obama. He has worked well with them in the past and he can sell elixirs to the masses. Of all of the Democrats who are running, Obama is the most naieve and impressionable. There isn't a Republican they couldn't manage and control but there is not a Republican who is electable or,if elected, would have much of a public following. Furthermore MIC needs a Democrat President because they know the probabities are that Congress, the House of Representatives and the Senate, will be controlled by the Democrats.

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Nettie
Posted by: NET on Dec 25, 2007 3:29 PM   
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That is very thoughtful of Mike Huckabee. Perhaps he would like to stay there for a month or two without any outside contact.

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