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Giuliani Snuck 2,000 Boxes of Records Out of New York's City Hall

Posted by Pam Spaulding, Pam's House Blend at 4:54 PM on December 21, 2007.


If you thought Darth Cheney was secretive...you'll love Rudy
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Let's see how his campaign responds to this. The AP reports that, while NY government only allows a former mayor to keep a few token gifts when they clean out their desks, Rudy Giuliani would have needed several U-Hauls to remove all the paperwork he whisked out of City Hall, Gracie Mansion and other offices. That doesn't square with his claim that he believes in "open government." Or maybe it depends on the meaning of the word "open."

Under an unprecedented agreement that didn't become public until after he left office, Giuliani secreted out of City Hall the written, photographic and electronic record of his eight years in office - more than 2,000 boxes.

Along with his own files, the trove included the official records of Giuliani's deputy mayors, his chief of staff, his travel office and Gracie Mansion - the mayor's residence that became a legal battlefront during his caustic divorce.

The mayor made famous - and very wealthy - in the aftermath of the 9/11 terrorist attacks has long described his City Hall as an open book.

In a Republican presidential candidates' debate last week, Giuliani asserted: "My government in New York City was so transparent that they knew every single thing I did almost every time I did it. ... I can't think of a public figure that's had a more transparent life than I've had."

But the public record, as reviewed by The Associated Press, shows a City Hall that had a reputation of resistance - even hostility - toward open government, the First Amendment and the public's access to simple facts and figures.

"He ran a government as closed as he could make it," said attorney Floyd Abrams, a widely recognized First Amendment authority who faced off against city lawyers when Giuliani sought to shut the Brooklyn Museum of Art because the mayor considered a painting sacrilegious.

This is a scathing article and a must-read. It documents a man so controlling and paranoid that requests for benign public data having nothing to do with security (such as number of working water fountains in the city's parks), required a formal request to the mayor's office.

And he repeatedly battled other city agencies over access to information that ended up in court, with the city losing almost every case.

Advocacy and oversight groups long accustomed to easily obtaining information about city services and finances - the Citizens Budget Commission and the Women's City Club among them - were required to file freedom of information requests for documents, often resulting in months of delays and added legal costs.

In a slap at Giuliani's City Hall, a judge in one such case wrote bluntly, "The law provides for maximum access, not maximum withholding."

Attorney Eve Burton, who represented the New York Daily News during much of the Giuliani era, said the newspaper submitted more than 100 filings in six years related to information or access requests, appeals or lawsuits involving the administration. In one case, she said, the city refused to turn over the names of people who held gun permits - unquestionably public information - until threatened with a lawsuit.

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2,000 boxes of Ghouliani files stolen, and no coverup of 911?
Posted by: channing on Dec 21, 2007 10:28 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
from the AP:

"Giuliani's decision to commandeer his historical records in late 2001, as he prepared to leave office, was just one of many episodes during his term, both in and out of the courtroom, that demonstrate his efforts to control, withhold or massage information to advance his agenda and hobble critics."

... were these the files that never made it into WTC Bldg 7 before it was Pulled? and also from the same article:

"Critics of the mayor were sometimes denied use of public property to hold events."

...sound familiar, Mr. NeoCon 911 Insider?

and:

"In a slap at Giuliani's City Hall, a judge in one such case wrote bluntly, "The law provides for maximum access, not maximum withholding.""

...gee, where in Karl Rove Goebbels' hell did Ghouliani get that trick from?

"It is an unblemished record for secrecy," said Burton, now general counsel at the Hearst Corp."

... Burton's a "political enemy", right?

"...Giuliani in his final days in office shipped more than 2,000 boxes of correspondence, appointment books, audiotapes, e-mails, telephone logs, briefing memos, private schedules and thousands of videotapes and photos to a storage facility in Queens.

The materials were placed in the custody of a private, nonprofit group allied with Giuliani, under an agreement between the city and the Rudolph W. Giuliani Center for Urban Affairs, which, at the time, had no board and no permanent site."

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Giuliani a thug and liar
Posted by: Lector on Dec 22, 2007 2:05 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Although he continues to garner some support for his election campaign, his following appears to have lost the steam it once had; there can only be so many people who will believe what this man says. But beware, the great defect about Democracy is that it reflects the faults and virtues of its voters who can also be as self-seeking as Giuliani and like most potential presidents he is only a notch or two above his fellow citizens. Considering this, we may get what we deserve with most the potential presidential selections presently on display.

Pointless

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» RE: Giuliani a thug and liar Posted by: channing
» RE: Giuliani a thug and liar Posted by: AMERICAN VETERAN
He's killed so many
Posted by: ClipedWingAngel on Dec 23, 2007 7:26 AM   
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I can tell you that there are hundreds of responders like me that are sick and we cant get treated. Ghouliani on the other hand, puts his airplane back on the ground and goes to a hospital where he gets A-1 treatment.
The rest of us, are on death row, in pain at home (if we have one and havent lost it) unable to see a doctor because the City of NY wont pay our bills through Workers Comp.
THATS THE LEGACY OF RUDY!

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The Perfect Republican
Posted by: lc on Dec 24, 2007 5:29 AM   
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So many skeletons in his closet for the party to control him with. Gay or pedophile lackeys are easiest to control but Guilliani has so many other faults to hide that he will do their bidding to the end because he has already sold his soul for the Almighty United States Dollar, In God We Trust.
IM
Belteshazzar

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