I was reading that the surveillance was most likely directed at DOMESTIC phone calls and emails, not just directed at foreigners, in that the spying was upon communication pathways that were used mostly for local and domestic phone traffic.
And, oh yeah, the surveillance that likely took place before 9-11-01, did it prevent the 9-11 attacks? No? You mean Bush's domestic spying is NOT keeping us safe? What a shock.

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an opposition party that does not fold whenever bushco says boo! and isn't in the same pockets. so it's not gonna happen...hell, they'll lining up for the gestapo jobs.

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The term "neocon" may be a relatively new discriptor, but their agenda is not. This is all straight from the Neocon playbook, which has been written, edited, elaborated and expanded on, for more than 35 YEARS!

They call for a New World Order and they're NOT FUCKING KIDDING!!!

We must take drastic measures NOW, because if not, by the time the American people wake up from their self-induced mass-coma, it will have been TOO LATE.

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Sounds like although they didn't do it (savvy operators know how to evaluate the risk of being found out.) Bush and the neocon cohorts may have been preparing the field for what they knew was going to happen some time soon.
How may they have known? Perhaps by encouraging, aiding and abetting the interested party to accomplish its goal.

Reminds me of another operation. Ambassador April Glaspie sending Saddam Hussein mixed signal about occupying Kuwait. In the end we (they) got the money from the weapons we sold him earlier to kill Komehinei's Shiite Revolution, got rid of those weapons later when that Arab Noriega became to cocky, and the excuse we (they) needed to became the 'deciders' in the middle east oil fields. We (they) are still at it, and the never ending building of military bases.

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Would start right out planning to carry out the same actions that got Nixon driven out of office.

This guy STILL isn't planning to leave.

Wait for the biggie - it's coming.

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At this point, I'd take one for the team. I'd immediately have to kill myself afterwards but, if we could get on with getting things right... **sigh**

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Back when Apple's Steve Jobs and MS Gates were fighting for government contracts, Gates agreed to special code inserted into MS Operating system that allows the federal government to secretly enter any computer, anywhere that is running on Gate's MS Operating system. Jobs is my hero for not going along with the government. That is the main reason Apple computer systems were left in the failed dust heap of computer financial success stories (comparatively speaking, that is).
Phone records made by the 3 teens involved in the American teen murdered a couple years ago in Aruba (? island name) were just released allowing for two of the teens to be re-indicted for murder. These phone records are part of every electronic transmission captured and stored in underground computers in Virgina and run by the CIA. Every phone, email, fax, wire or electronic transmission anywhere in the world is captured and flagged for certain words to route directly to human intelligence or to be stored for later retrieval when needed. The feds needed a long time to retrieve the Aruba phone records but they finally did all the paperwork and searching to compile the cell phone conversations the teens made during their weekend island murder romp on the beach.
Meaning that this email comment, and everyone reading this message who has ever posted their own comment, can rest assured their Big Brother is watching over them and has been doing so for so long, memory has faded into denial and wishfull thinking for a better future.
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