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CIA Eliminates Incriminating Evidence, Destroys Interrogation Tapes

Posted by Steve Benen, The Carpetbagger Report at 7:16 AM on December 7, 2007.


Steve Benen: Just when it seemed this administration couldn't possibly get worse, it gets worse.
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This post, written by Steve Benen, originally appeared on The Carpetbagger Report

Given the last seven years, expectations are already low for the administration that's never seen justice it didn't want to obstruct. But intentionally destroying evidence of a possible crime, in the midst of ongoing legal inquiries, suggests the Bush gang's contempt for the rule of law can't get much worse.

The Central Intelligence Agency in 2005 destroyed at least two videotapes documenting the interrogation of two Qaeda operatives in the agency's custody, a step it took in the midst of Congressional and legal scrutiny about its secret detention program, according to current and former government officials.
The videotapes showed agency operatives in 2002 subjecting terrorism suspects -- including Abu Zubaydah, the first detainee in C.I.A. custody -- to severe interrogation techniques. The tapes were destroyed in part because officers were concerned that video showing harsh interrogation methods could expose agency officials to legal risks, several officials said.
In a statement to employees on Thursday, Gen. Michael V. Hayden, the C.I.A. director, said that the decision to destroy the tapes was made "within the C.I.A." and that they were destroyed to protect the safety of undercover officers and because they no longer had intelligence value.
The destruction of the tapes raises questions about whether agency officials withheld information from Congress, the courts and the Sept. 11 commission about aspects of the program.
Indeed, it arguably does more than just "raise questions"; it may point to actual criminal wrongdoing, intended to cover up more criminal wrongdoing. As Sullivan put it, "What defines [a banana] republic? How about an executive that ignores the rule of law, commits war-crimes and then destroys the actual evidence? ... We live in a country where the government can detain indefinitely, torture in secret, and then secretly destroy the tapes of torture sessions to protect its own staff."

It's that bad and more.

The NYT has reportedly been working on the story for weeks, and sought comment from the CIA on Wednesday about the story that was poised to run. In response, CIA Director Hayden hoped to take some control of the revelations yesterday, issuing a statement to the agency's employees about the administration's decision to destroy evidence.
General Hayden's statement said that the tapes posed a "serious security risk" and that if they had become public they would have exposed C.I.A. officials "and their families to retaliation from Al Qaeda and its sympathizers." [...]
In his statement, General Hayden said leaders of Congressional oversight committees had been fully briefed about the existence of the tapes and told in advance of the decision to destroy them. But the two top members of the House Intelligence Committee in 2005 said Thursday that they had not been notified in advance of the decision to destroy the tapes.
The explanation is neither helpful nor accurate. First, destroying evidence to protect CIA officials from terrorists is absurd.

Tom Malinowski, Washington director of Human Rights Watch, said General Hayden's claim that the tapes were destroyed to protect C.I.A. officers "is not credible."

"Millions of documents in C.I.A. archives, if leaked, would identify C.I.A. officers," Mr. Malinowski said. "The only difference here is that these tapes portray potentially criminal activity. They must have understood that if people saw these tapes, they would consider them to show acts of torture, which is a felony offense."

Second, Hayden's argument about congressional oversight is apparently bogus. The leading Republican on the House Intelligence Committee at the time was, according to his spokesperson, "never briefed or advised that these tapes existed, or that they were going to be destroyed," and believes Congress "should have been informed and consulted before the C.I.A. did anything with the tapes." Likewise, the top Democrat on the Committee said she urged the CIA not to destroy any evidence, asking, "How in the world could the C.I.A. claim that these tapes were not relevant to a legislative inquiry?"

Ultimately, the Bush administration hid the evidence from lawmakers, federal investigators, a federal court, and the 9/11 Commission -- and then destroyed it. Just when it seemed this administration couldn't possibly get worse, it gets worse.

Given this report, it's hardly unreasonable for Congress to demand a criminal investigation by the Justice Department of the CIA and anyone in the White House who may have authorized the destruction of evidence. It's a no-brainer -- the Bush administration appears to have committed a crime in order to cover up another crime.

Will Attorney General Michael Mukasey rise to the challenge, or will he be Alberto Gonzales?

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Steve Benen is a freelance writer/researcher and creator of The Carpetbagger Report. In addition, he is the lead editor of Salon.com's Blog Report, and has been a contributor to Talking Points Memo, Washington Monthly, Crooks & Liars, The American Prospect, and the Guardian.


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Worse Than Nixon
Posted by: QQOblivion on Dec 7, 2007 7:26 AM   
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This is worse than what Nixon did. There the cover-up was over a burglary, a crime against property. Here we are talking about TORTURE. (Torture, kiddies, for those that do not know, is what very evil people sometimes do to those poor innocent people they kidnap.) And torture is second only to murder in how horrible it is as a crime against one's physical being.

And I will tell you one reason they destroyed the tapes, aside from trying to cover up a felony. They didn't want to take the chance that the recordings of the horrendous screams of the interrogated individuals would make it into the US media. (What were they worried about? No chance of that happening, even if the CIA went, "Here, CNN, here is some really fun-to-watch footage that proves we committed a felony and lied about it; and, by the way, this should boost your ratings remarkably." No chance at all. {I am not being sarcastic.} I mean, the MSM MIGHT play the tapes, but then we all will quickly forget about the tapes' contents anyway. What's up with Britney?)
Just today there are multiple stories about Bush Admn lies and cover-ups, EACH cover-up and lie ALONE would be a justification for impeachment that far surpasses any justification for impeaching Bill Clinton.
And to think, some conservatives still say, "President Bush didn't do anything that bad, and he has never lied. And in any case, it was BILL CLINTON who was impeached. Bush never will be."
Shameful.
Impeachment, in my opinion, is WAY too good for Bush. He and his cronies have committed crimes that are far worse than those committed by many on death-row in this country, I hate to say.
(I am not a fan of the death-penalty, for the record. But many of Bush's followers are.)
Sorry for rambling today. But if this story of the destroyed tapes isn't enough for impeachment, then what is? Nothing, I guess.

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» RE: Worse Than Nixon Posted by: Doubtom
» RE: Worse Than Nixon Posted by: whiteman12049@yahoo.com
Can you say . . .
Posted by: russianblue1 on Dec 7, 2007 8:30 AM   
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DISINGENUOUS!?!?!?

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How come the tapes of our phone conversations, internet activity,
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Dec 7, 2007 8:43 AM   
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traffic activity, and all those CCTVs on the public streets never get erased? Don't you think there might be more of a security risk, identify theft risk, and civil rights violations from all those warrantless surveillence tapes?

Isn't it also odd that the tapes from police cars, CCTVs, security cameras, etc never get erased, misplaced, or taped over when prosecuting a "civilian" for any crime from murder to running a redlight. Yet anytime a COP, the CIA, or the MILITARY, or a questionable event occurs (Oklahoma City, 11-Sept, TWA 800, etc is involved in an incident the tapes either "go missing", have "techinal problems", or by happenstance the "camera wasn't on", or in this case were purposely erased??

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CIA = Al Qaeda
Posted by: channing on Dec 7, 2007 10:14 AM   
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"General Hayden's statement said that the tapes posed a "serious security risk" and that if they had become public they would have exposed C.I.A. officials "and their families to retaliation from Al Qaeda and its sympathizers."

Yeeaa Rrrright...hmmmhmmm, wink, wink

Check out:

"Former Italian President and the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio Francesco Cossiga has gone public on 9/11, telling Italy's most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.

"Cossiga's tendency to be outspoken upset the Italian political establishment and he was forced to resign after revealing the existence of, and his part in setting up, Operation Gladio - a rogue intelligence network under NATO auspices that carried out bombings across Europe in the 60's, 70's and 80's.

"Gladio's specialty was to carry out what they coined "false flag operations," terror attacks that were blamed on their domestic and geopolitical opposition.

"In March 2001, Gladio agent Vincenzo Vinciguerra stated, in sworn testimony, "You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple: to force ... the public to turn to the state to ask for greater security.

"Cossiga's new revelations appeared last week in Italy's oldest and most widely read newspaper, Corriere della Sera. Below appears a rough translation.
"[Bin Laden supposedly confessed] to the Qaeda September [attack] to the two towers in New York [claiming to be] the author of the attack of the 11, while all the [intelligence services] of America and Europe ... now know well that the disastrous attack has been planned and realized from the CIA American and the Mossad with the aid of the Zionist world in order to put under accusation the Arabic Countries and in order to induce the western powers to take part ... in Iraq [and] Afghanistan."


Perhaps Francesco Cossiga, being elderly, is just getting something off his chest, maybe he was recently frightened by a "bent spear" nuclear false-flag using one or all of the 6 missing nukes, but whatever the reason, I'm glad someone "Inside" is willing to blow the lid off this International Criminal Conspiracy called the GWOT that has so far put Americans into deep slumber... or is that cowardly fear?

What goes up, must come down... It is Time to Blow Up the Big Lie! Turn off that damn USnooze button before we're had for good!

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"We don't torture"
Posted by: QQOblivion on Dec 7, 2007 11:24 AM   
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This is what is going through Joe-Average-American's mind: The US doesn't torture. How do I know (aside from that the president and Fox News told me so)?

Because there are no pictures.

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After WW2, amerikans prosecuted Japanese for using water-boarding torture
Posted by: PakiBoy on Dec 7, 2007 12:41 PM   
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Four Japanese defendants who were tried before a U.S. military commission at Yokohama, Japan, in 1947 for their treatment of American and Allied prisoners. Wallach writes, in the case of United States of America vs. Hideji Nakamura, Yukio Asano, Seitara Hata and Takeo Kita, "water torture was among the acts alleged in the specifications ... and it loomed large in the evidence presented against them."

Hata, the camp doctor, was charged with war crimes stemming from the brutal mistreatment and torture of Morris Killough "by beating and kicking him (and) by fastening him on a stretcher and pouring water up his nostrils." Other American prisoners, including Thomas Armitage, received similar treatment, according to the allegations.

Armitage described his ordeal: "They would lash me to a stretcher then prop me up against a table with my head down. They would then pour about 2 gallons of water from a pitcher into my nose and mouth until I lost consciousness."

Hata was sentenced to 25 years at hard labor, and the other defendants were convicted and given long stints at hard labor as well.

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It goes way back
Posted by: riotoustanpdx on Dec 7, 2007 8:02 PM   
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This is the way it is: The present administration resembles the "National Socialist German Workers Party" of infamy, a.k.a. "The Nazis."

There is good reason. In a nutshell: Two "myths" about the Nazis of 1933-1945 must be dispelled.
1. That their main intent was to abolish the Jews from the planet, the "Final Solution." 2. That the Nazis accepted defeat in 1945.

Myth 1: The real intent of the Nazis was (is) to establish a Reich, or kingdom, if I may, "that lasts a thousand years." Yes, they tried to eliminate all the Jews in Europe, called that "The Final Solution" to the OBSTACLE that was, in their perception only, in the way to achieve the REAL aim, the 1,000-year Third Reich.

Myth 2: That the Nazis accepted defeat of that aim in 1945. They did not. The German Army operated this way: every soldier was trained to become an officer in command of other officers at various ranks below. When the time of war comes, the ranks of recruits below expand, the ordinary soldier is promoted to the next level and the whole expands exponentially. The organization is a "skeleton" of the expanded army that grows as needed. In 1945, the organization of officers merely shrank back to the minimum level, and merged into the victors' ranks, in the United States and Britain, into the largest corporations, where 10,000 were employed and their identities hidden. They became Republicans, for the most part.

The German army was aligned with German industry in the first "Military Industrial Complex." Funded by bankers like Prescott Bush in New York, with U.S. and British Royal cronies, the war machine expanded, then waged war at great profit.

Throughout the Cold War, the same German emigrants to the West and Russia balanced the equation, more or less, while setting the stage for the present "New World Order."

Read NWO as the continuation of the Third Reich. Make no mistake about that.

Among the people who first populated the CIA when it was formed from the OSS were the same Nazis who had been enemies of the U.S. during the war (WWII).

Google "Brownshirts," read about the methods employed, and you will think that you've entered "Blackwater" instead. No coincidence.

Read the aims and methods to be deployed by the Nazis and you might think you are reading the Patriot Acts One and Two. No coincidence, make no mistake about that.

For those of you who have seen Bush speak to a group of "businessmen" in a Michael Moore movie: the quote " . . . but I say, you are my BASE . . " spoken by Bush (Dub-ya) who but the gathering of Third Reich sympathizers and loyalists, survivors and new-generation heirs would he be speaking of? He is the third-generation Heir to the founding CORE of the Third Reich, the machine that Eisenhower called the greatest threat to American freedom, the MIC within. We call it the Global Corporation Network today.

The Monster is big, and has grown in the shadows for sixty years. Truth, widely known, is it's greatest enemy.

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So what?!
Posted by: monkeywrench on Dec 7, 2007 9:13 PM   
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From the article:

"But intentionally destroying evidence of a possible crime, in the midst of ongoing legal inquiries, suggests the Bush gang's contempt for the rule of law can't get much worse."

So what?! No one's going to do anything about it. Unlike even in the Nixon era, there are no Republicans who value the law, or the Constitution, or the integrity of the United States more than they value their sycophantic, slavish tribal loyalty to their political party and its misplaced values. In this toxic atmosphere, no legal action can be taken against the Bush crime cabal. If the history of the last 7 years is any indication, all the congressional hearings, and hand-wringing, and progressive editorials, and "strongly-worded letters," and empty pronouncements and speechmaking will not bring anyone in the Bush administration to justice, because no one in our government with the power and responsibility to stand up for the rule of law will do so.

Words alone do not create justice; punishment of the guilty, and the redemption of the rule of law that punishment brings about, creates justice. Today, in America, there is no justice.

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Could Someone Explain
Posted by: AussieGeoff on Dec 8, 2007 3:49 AM   
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why the CIA was contacted prior to the article being published? All that achieved was to give the CIA time to concoct a bullshit story for the talking heads to parrot and the sheeple to believe.

Why not just publish and watch the fun as the scum run around in circles attempting to justify their actions in the glare of public scrutiny.

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Valerie Plame, Barry Bonds and Michael Hayden
Posted by: AlexLawyer on Dec 8, 2007 6:48 PM   
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Maybe Hayden was afraid Cheney and Rove would see the tapes, since they have a record of outing CIA officers. Seriously, these records were material to criminal trials and were unlawfully withheld, then destroyed. This is a prima facie case of obstruction of justice. If Barry Bonds is going to be prosecuted on dubious evidence for lying about behavior that, even if he did engage in it, would at most have been harmful to himself, shouldn't Hayden be prosecuted for the criminal assault on suspects and concealment by destruction of evidence? The Senate gleefully confirmed Hayden as CIA director knowing that he had been running an illegal operation spying on Americans at the NSA. Will they finally do their job and restore the rule of the Constitution and laws?

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Respect
Posted by: saltoafronteira on Dec 10, 2007 2:13 AM   
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I don't want to commit a lack of respect towards america, or the republican party.
But, what kind of people throws his wrath towards a president because of some sexual jigshaw, and afterwards stays still and quiet while another one commits serious crimes, one after the other ?
It's case to say, as the immortal Obelix did, "these romans are crazy" !

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