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Updated: Will a Set-back for Hugo Chavéz be a Victory for Rational Discourse?

Posted by Joshua Holland, AlterNet at 11:00 AM on December 4, 2007.


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Over in Foreign Policy, I'm running a commentary by The Guardian's Seumas Milne about the narrow defeat of Hugo Chavéz' reform package* in Sunday's referendum in Venezuela.

It's well worth reading, but Milne makes one point with which I have to disagree:

Perhaps most significantly for a better international understanding of what is actually going on in Venezuela, yesterday's result must surely discredit the canard that the country is somehow slipping into authoritarian or even dictatorial rule. It is clearly doing nothing of the sort. The referendum was a convincing display of democracy in action - though doubtless if the margin of victory had been the other way round, the US-backed opposition would have cried foul and swathes of the western media would have accused Chávez of imposing a dictatorship.

I visited over half a dozen polling stations yesterday in the state of Vargas north-east of Caracas and in the city itself and the process seemed if anything more impressively run than in Britain - with opposition monitors everywhere declaring themselves satisfied with the transparency and integrity of the process.

It "must surely" nothing.

Yes, the fact that Chavéz put all of his political capital into the referendum -- which was drafted according to the Venezuelan Constitution and followed the electoral laws to a T -- lost by a narrow margin and will respect the results should make it more difficult for his detractors to accuse him of dictatorial tendencies.

We can even take that a step further. The fact that a coalition made up of the Venezuelan subsidiaries of leading U.S. corporations (including Ford, General Motors, DaimlerChrysler, Bridgestone/ Firestone, Goodyear, Alcoa, Shell, Pfizer, Dupont, Cargill, Coca-Cola, Kraft, Novartis, Unilever, Heinz, Johnson & Johnson, Citibank, Colgate Palmolive, DHL and Owens Illinois) pulled out all the stops to sabotage the referendum with a massive, and at times illegal, propaganda campaign should shift the focus to the consistently anti-democratic maneuvers of the Venezuelan opposition, which was dragged kicking and screaming into the democratic process only after their coup attempt and various strikes failed to destabilize Chavéz' administration.

Also, according to James Petras, a confidential memo from the US embassy to the CIA "which is devastatingly revealing of US clandestine operations" to influence the referendum was leaked to the public just before the vote:

The memo sent by an embassy official, Michael Middleton Steere, was addressed to the Director of Central Intelligence, Michael Hayden. The memo was entitled 'Advancing to the Last Phase of Operation Pincer' [OP] and updates the activity by a CIA unit with the acronym 'HUMINT' (Human Intelligence) which is engaged in clandestine action to destabilize the forth-coming referendum and coordinate the civil military overthrow of the elected Chavez government. The Embassy-CIA's polls concede that 57 per cent of the voters approved of the constitutional amendments proposed by Chavez but also predicted a 60 per cent abstention…

OP involves a two-pronged strategy of impeding the referendum, rejecting the outcome at the same time as calling for a 'no' vote. The run up to the referendum includes running phony polls, attacking electoral officials and running propaganda through the private media accusing the government of fraud and calling for a 'no' vote. Contradictions, the report emphasizes, are of no matter.

UPDATE: It looks like the memo is likely bogus.

So to take it a step further: that an opposition that's consistently represented the interests of about 15 percent of Venezuelan society, and is backed and advised by U.S. institutions, used dirty tricks to win by a hair, and that even opposition pollsters concede that Chavéz still has the support of a significant majority of the population despite the referendum results, should at least start a conversation about the degree to which a leftist Latin American government is forced to consolidate power in order to survive.

All of that should happen, but of course won't.

Instead, we're going to be in for some spectacular intellectual contortionism, as Chavéz' respect for the results of the democratic process becomes evidence, somehow, of his truly authoritarian nature.

While I'm not able to predict what those arguments will look like -- I'm not that creative -- I'm confident that we won't see the discourse change. The reasons are two-fold.

First, the assertions that Venezuela is sinking into dictatorship never correlated with any discernible reality. Or, put another way: compare the breathless reporting over Chavéz' attempt to eliminate Venezuela's term limits -- the sky is falling! -- with the commercial media's ho-hum response to the announcement that Colombia's right-wing president, Alvaro Uribe, is considering the exact same move. One difference between the two is that Uribe already changed the Colombian Constitution during his first term to allow him to run for a second. Colombia had had one-term limit for 120 years, but Uribe's maneuvers never prompted the execrable Nora O'Donnell to call him a "dictator."

More than that, however, is that the good leftist (Bachelet, Lula and sometimes Kirchner)/ bad leftist (Chavez, Morales and sometimes Kirchner) dichotomy is an essential narrative that, at its heart, is a reaction to waning neoliberal/U.S. influence across the region. It's a distraction designed to shift the discussion from the fact that decades of failed "reforms" according to the dictates of Washington and Geneva have given way to a new regional paradigm that, so far, has yielded some demonstrable benefits to Latin America's poorest, to the supposed perfidy of the left as demonstrated by wildly exaggerated -- and often fabricated -- evidence of its authoritarianism.

An, thanks to a largely compliant media, the tactic has been wonderfully effective -- with many, many progressives convinced of the truth of the charges -- so it will persist out of necessity.

In the meantime, the good news is that the only audience that really counts continues to be the Venezuelan voters. Regional polls rank Chavéz among the least popular of Latin America's leaders, but Venezuelans -- those who live under his government and see how its policies impact their lives, for better or worse -- continue to support him by large margins.

That tells you much about not only Chavéz' ability to deliver on the lion's shares of the promises he's made, but also to the effectiveness of the disinformation campaign pitted against him. That underlying dynamic isn't going to change just because of a few inconvenient facts.

* For the record, I'm not personally displeased to see the referendum fail. I believe long terms in office breed corruption and should be avoided on principle, and I think it's vitally important for Venezuela that the changes happening there are sustainable beyond any one individual's presidency. However, I don't pretend to know better than the Venezuelan people, and would have supported the outcome either way.

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Joshua Holland is an editor and senior writer at AlterNet.


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It could be the corporations, or it could be that Venezuelans actually don't want another Castro.
Posted by: MAD on Dec 4, 2007 11:37 AM   
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"Yes, the fact that Chavéz put all of his political capital into the referendum -- which was drafted according to the Venezuelan Constitution and followed the electoral laws to a T -- lost by a narrow margin and will respect the results should make it more difficult for his detractors to accuse him of dictatorial tendencies."

It will make it difficult for his detractors until he forces this turkey down their throats again in 3 or 6 months all without "one comma of change". And it remains to be seen if he will respect the outcome or not. It's only been a couple of days. Give it time and see what he makes of it. My guess is we're only seeing the opening salvo in a protracted campaign to concentrate all state power in the hands of one supreme and perpetual ruler.

It's nice that you point to a laundry list of corporations that pulled out all the stops to snuff out his legislation, but my friends in Venezuela rather think it was the "spoiled little rich kids", er, students who got the ball rolling.

Face it, Josh. Chavez has his foot firmly lodged in his mouth 95% of the time and is an authoritarian at heart. Venezuelans are starting to recognize him for the threat, and international embarrassment, that he is. We should know all about that here in the US, right? Come back and tell us all about it in 6 months when he's using water cannons on his own people. It's amazing how much of an asshole Chavez has proven himself to be since you first begin genuflecting before the alter of Chavez's cult of personality. His little spat with Juan Carlos was really something to behold. I think he said what most people around the world were thinking. And the way he's spoiling for a fight with Uribe. Priceless.

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Chavez's real test is after his term
Posted by: mrdaniel on Dec 4, 2007 11:42 AM   
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There is something I find interesting about the ongoing debate about whether or not Chavez has been slipping toward authoritarianism, demagoguery, or whatever is accused. Pro-Chavez folks seem to argue that a referendum ending constitutional limits is perfectly normal as a 'necessary way for left-wing governments to consolidate power'. It may not be ideal, but hey, it will keep a good guy around in the long-term fight for justice.

My thought is, since when is Chavez the only left-wing politician in Venezuela? If his government and reforms are working, reforming both the grassroots and their experience of democracy, and building a strong coalition of political leaders, then Chavez should have no need for an endless presidency. There should be a strong movement, with strong representative leaders ready to take his place for generations to come.

Of course, I know it's not that easy. This article points to plenty of dirty tricks that may or may not have contributed to the failure of this referendum. But assuming the US government does not go to the extreme of coups, popular politicans and popular movements do overcome dirty tricks and do combat them. I think there is fear of letting a movement do the leading rather than a single, invincible individual -- hence the slide toward less democratic rule. But it seems to be the real solution to social democracy. It seems the real struggle should be to ensure an enduring political legacy for Chavez and his supporters, so that his reforms are less associated with himself, and more associated with a broad movement for change.

"Big Man" politics are endemic of corrupt, undemocratic governments that are inflexible and unwilling to change. The track record is mostly abysmal across all parts of the world. There is always the potential that one or another political leader who serves for decades will continue to do good decade after decade, largely avoiding personal gain, but the odds based on a historical record are highly stacked against it. Why would people working for justice put all their eggs in one basket, rather than building a movement that will outlast individual leaders, who will come and go while the movement lives on?

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Power grabs and right wing Colombians
Posted by: lamar on Dec 4, 2007 11:46 AM   
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I think Democracy won out in this referendum, but people are putting too much stock in Chavez's acknowledgment of the results. Let's not forget the power grab he tried to pull off in the first place.

I also don't understand how Chavez's similarity to a right winger trying to reduce democracy in Colombia makes Chavez's actions less of a power grab. Sure, there is unfair treatment of the two situations in the American media. That does NOT mean Chavez wasn't trying to get unlimited powers. Usually mimicking the scandalous power grabs of right wingers is a negative thing, no?

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U.S., arbiters of all things democratic....
Posted by: antoniomo on Dec 4, 2007 11:48 AM   
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Thanks again, Joshua, for a thoughtful analysis. I admit I've been uneasy about Chavez possibly wanting to move towards a more authoritarian government (I have a friend from Paraguay who despises and thoroughly distrusts Chavez), and was pleased to see Chavez's reaction to the results.

And I imagine you're right, the right won't cut him any slack for respecting the democratic process. Even though our own country keeps disrespecting that process over and over again, while claiming to be the champions of democracy.

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Well...
Posted by: brunowe on Dec 4, 2007 12:05 PM   
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Or, put another way: compare the breathless reporting over Chavéz' attempt to eliminate Venezuela's term limits

He also spoke of being President until around mid-century. He had no problem keeping term limits mayors and governors (apparently, he alone is worthy of considertion for a longer tenure). This in a constitutional arrangement where there is no meaningful check on the power of the Presidency (you think Uribe has anything like that kind of power?).

Bear in mind too that Chavez has been in power since 1998 and the lifting of term limits would extend his tenure beyond the 14 years that it his currently scheduled to last (longer than Uribe). Let's also remember that the proposed constitution also would've given him control of the central bank reserves (slush fund anyone?)and allowed him to create new regional and municipal entities ruled by vice presidents whom he would name and whose powers would take precedence over that of elected governors and mayors. Is Uribe making that kind of power grab?


followed the electoral laws to a T

Who has actually certified that he "followed the electoral laws to a T" given his failure to invite OAS or EU observers and the fact that the National Electoral Council is packed with Chavez partisans.

However, I don't pretend to know better than the Venezuelan people, and would have supported the outcome either way.

Finally, your assumption that outside interference had less to do with the referendum's defeat then the fact that even some former Chavez supporters have split from him; then with disapproval of the shutdown of the TV station; then with the ongoing corruption and crime problems; the with the price controls that have to led to shortages of goods smacks of sore-loserdom. It also contradicts your claim that you would've supported the outcome either way.

There is much that is anti-democratic about Chavez's constant push to acquire more power for himself, nothing that hashe "forced [him] to consolidate power in order to survive". He hasn't faced a serious threat to his power since the oil strike back in 2002-03. It has much more to do with the messianic complex that has led him to threaten to nationalize Spanish companies because of his well-deserved telling-off by the Spanish king.

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Am I Missing Something?
Posted by: AussieGeoff on Dec 4, 2007 2:04 PM   
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The referendum was, amongst other things, about removing the term limits for the President, not Chavez. Win, lose or draw he would still have to have stood for re-election at the end of his term!

This is the way the system works in a Democracy, unlike a sham democracy where the sheeple get to "elect" the pre-ordained corporate apparatchik .

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I suppose Hugo stayed too long at the "party" so-to-speak
Posted by: rhinojos on Dec 4, 2007 3:08 PM   
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There must come a time when you've done all you could before the people decide they've dealt with you long enough. Hugo has done a lot of good things for Venezuela and the people feel that other people can take them to the next level. Perhaps they'll be delivered to us so we can disenfranchised them one day and maybe not.

Either way, we'll figure out a way to ruin their economy and take their resources one at a time.

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"...waning neoliberal/U.S. influence across the region"
Posted by: Sojourner on Dec 4, 2007 3:56 PM   
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Yes, of course. It is we, Americans, who will suffer the most from the stupidity of the discussion over South America. We've already experienced that with Cuba.

We don't have the free time or attention to waste on dumb arguments. But power never lets go without a struggle. So we shall have to listen to the absurd rationalizations trying to prove that a socialist must fail.

Otherwise, who do we think we are? Europe?

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U.S. Corporations rape and pillage S. America
Posted by: rjgwood on Dec 4, 2007 9:23 PM   
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Continuously. Consider Chiquita Bananna. They ally themselves with "terror organizations" for "security" during union drives, resulting in union organizers being murdered.

Consider U.S. meat suppliers to fast food chains burning the rain forest in order to acquire more grazing land.

The list can go on and on. Just do a simple google search of U.S. corporations in S. America and you will pull up a litany of abuses by u.s. companies there.

Progressives have rightly felt compelled to champion someone that has the temerity to stand in front of their tanks. Chavez has liberated the oil resources of his poor nation for the people of Venezula from the corporations. This is nearly unprecedented for a person of the ranks of the indigenous to take such a stand and be successful.

For the U.S. to continually interfer in the affairs of the Venezualan people, with our track record in Columbian politics and elsewhere (remember Pinochet?!?) rightly sends fear and chills up the spine of true democratists.

If we were truly the society we claim to be we would be embracing the Venezulans rather than destabilizing them.

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Meh. Who cares?
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Dec 4, 2007 10:30 PM   
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Buy gas from them if they are selling; buy it elsewhere if they aren't, albeit at higher prices.

Venez'an can and should decide their future. The fact that we are one of the few nations that can refine their products doesn't alter that.

Meh. Much ado...

Let the Castro wanna-be and the Venz'an people have it out. It's potentially good for their nation, and even better if the US stays uninvolved, imho.

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retractation
Posted by: El Hombre Malo on Dec 5, 2007 1:46 AM   
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I for one would like to retrac from the suspicions I voiced regarding this referendum.

I still think Chavez, as much as I agree with his political goals (reduction of the economical gap, broader participation in the democratic process...), is an authoritarian demagoge and not a true democrat. He demonizes a whole segment of the population for political gain and among his supporters there is a big deal of "matonismo", the tendence to use violence to silence political opponentes. Please try to remember this is the guy who revoked the broadcasting license of the TV channel most critic with him; if that is not undermining freedom of speech, I dont know what it is.

But at least he is sticking to democratic rules and that deserves as respect. He tried a power grab with this referendum but at least he did it the way it should be done...if you really believe that needs to be done.

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Unbelievable
Posted by: lefty010 on Dec 5, 2007 8:13 AM   
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Thanks Joshua, I always appreciate reading what you write on this subject.

I am just stunned at how wholly arrogant the US is with regard to Chavez. If Venezuela didn't have one of the world's largest oil reserves, nobody in this country would know his name, let alone spend so much time trying to demean him for having the actual nerve to demand that a portion of the profit from Venezuelan oil MUST BE USED FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE. How dare he?
Maybe the reason that leaves such a foul taste in people's mouths in the US is that even though we tout democracy, it would seem that the US has fallen way short in this regard.
Before the US points the finger maybe we should consider our own circumstances before we worry about Chavez. Oh yeah, he does have all that oil though.
I mean how about the fact that in the richest country in the world, 47 million of us don't have health insurance? Hmmm... 2 million of us are in prison, we still have the barbaric death penalty.. 13% of our population lives in poverty, etc.
Oh and let's ask the folk sittin in Gitmo about about American democracy, or how they view the American adherence to the Geneva Convention.
I also haven't seen Chavez lead his country to war based on false intelligence. I've not heard of Chavez committing treason to oust a CIA operative just because he didn't like what her husband said about him. hmmm.
And although the main-stream-media outlets in America are not blatantly state run, they are corporate run...same/same maybe?
Just sayin'...

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Ending term limits
Posted by: chaoslegs on Dec 5, 2007 10:55 AM   
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Is it a power grab? That is how it is characterized, and it sure seems that way.

However, another take on it is that it is an attempt to extend his eligibility to run for president. Because of the term limits he is unable to run again, so using the process set forth he attempted to change the rules so that he could run again.

Now in the US the easiest comparison in my mind is to the efforts to change the constitution to make non native born citizens able to be the US president. They are considering this because they think Arnold could win the presidency. Now is the a Republican power grab, or is it an attempt to get rid of an archaic law. I will admit it looks like less of a power grab because it is not being initiated by Arnold, but others.

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If our democracy were like that of Venezuela
Posted by: leland61 on Dec 5, 2007 8:54 PM   
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George W. Bush would not be president.

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This makes me sick
Posted by: Racumin on Dec 22, 2007 11:29 AM   
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I've been living in Venezuela for a while. There is nothing authoritarian about Chavez. If you knew the laws and his policies, you'd know that he is actively trying to put the power into the communities. He is trying to lessen the power of the presidency. How about you turn off the news, put down the paper and come here yourself.
What really makes me sick is that every time we have a leader that is doing good for Latin America, people in the U.S. are so quick to call them authoritarian or put them down in some manner. What's implied is that the Latin American people can't make decisions for themselves. We're too stupid and allow bad leaders to ruin us. No, history has shown we are much smarter and stronger than people in the U.S. In the face of U.S. sponsored corruption we continually rise up to defeat your puppets. If Chavez were such an evil authoritarian, he would have been out a long time ago. His manner of speaking is very, very in tune with the people. He represents us very well and we want him to stay. Only the tiny minority of wealthy people who don't care about the country oppose him.
Please, for once, just this one time in history, LEAVE US THE FUCK ALONE. WE DON'T WANT YOU MEDDLING IN OUR LIVES. I'm sure the people in the rest of the world, like Iraq, will agree.

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more to say
Posted by: Racumin on Dec 22, 2007 11:56 AM   
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I am Colombian. I live in Venezuela because I will not live under the criminal government of Uribe. He is the creator of the paramilitaries. He doesn't want peace, even the more conservative Colombians are starting to wake up. The problem, though, is that there is extreme repression in Colombia. You are safe if you're a foreigner, but if you say one thing against the government, you end up dead. I have personal experience with this. My father was almost killed in a family gathering because he said something he shouldn't have. My friend almost got killed because he has long hair.
As for that stupid Spaniard. Did any of you actually see the event. I was watching it on T.V. First of all Chavez was not even talking to him and didn't even hear when he was told to shut up. The background: During this event many Latin American leaders were talking about how the Spanish and others have continually oppressed Latin America. The Spanish have many companies here that are horrible. The stupid spaniard got pissed becuase he has a lot of business interest here, so he took it out on Chavez, who was not saying anything offensive.

Bottom line. Chavez is the leader of a country. He should be treated with respect, like any other leader. It shows how nasty these Spaniards are. They pretend to be liberal, but their companies prove otherwise.

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