Thats convenient, because I'm willing to pay (handsomely) to watch John Ashcroft get waterboarded.

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Hey, just be sure that, while Ashcroft is incapacitated during his waterboarding, no one take advantage of him!
We wouldn't want THAT, would we? (Someone watch Mukasey!)

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Does "if it were necessary to do them to me, I would do" mean Ashcroft would prefer to perform waterboarding on himself?

Or is he answering an indictable question with a convoluted hypothetical statement to deflect suspicions that he actually engaged in torturing somebody while serving as AG?

Time to perform a seven-level wipe on Ashcroft's hard drive, before he short circuits and takes out the next crop of Patrick Henry College Rove-bots. Where are you when we need you, Geeks On Call?

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So how about a new reality show.

Each week we talk an official from the Dubya administration or Congress that is okay with waterboarding and show broadcast in on national TV. We can do it live, do post waterboarding interviews.

While they are being waterboarded we can ask them questions like:

Have you ever been part of the communist party?
Are you gay?
Have you ever taken a bribe?
How stupid do you think Dubya is?

Plus we can credit the networks with public service for showing it. I suggest that Joe Rogan be the host. And yes I do think that Fear Factor is part of the reason that Americans were not outraged as much as they should have been by actions taken by our country.

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put up or shut the fuck up! mr ashcroft

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Hot damn! What's holding us back? Let's strap that sucker down!

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If Ashcroft is willing to be subjected to waterboarding since it won't kill him, let's convict him of the war crimes he committed against the world. His sentence can be life in prison without parole and waterboarding daily until he confesses ALL of his sins against the innocent people of this world. I'm dreaming of course because it doesn't look like the Bushites will ever have to face up to their crimes against us and humanity because of our corrupt government. But maybe there is a hell after all where an eye for an eye is the rule. Oh yeah! Wouldn't that be nice? Burn baby burn. Or in Ashcroft's case maybe it will be choke baby choke.

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How about a plane ride, Carnahan style????

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Please, Oh, Please! Render him immediately to Gitmo, hooded, shackled and hog-tied. And make certain he always has access to his Bible! Hopefully, he'll spend some time studying the New Testament

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Maybe he would die... and that kind of treatment is not even considered to be torture.

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The big deal in waterboarding is it's being done by your enemies. You have no idea whether you will survive, and you may well believe you won't survive. The anxiety gets mixed in with the inherent discomfort of the process inducing panic. Waterboarding as a publicity stunt by people watching out for your welfare just doesn't rate.

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Yup, these bastards are as sick as it comes.

As long as we don't kill anyone let's just bring back the whole gammit of nontorchure activities. Where do I sign up?

I find somebody that know how get into the secret tunnels under the white house. I bet I could find someone and waterboard him for information. After all it's not torture! And of course no one is being made accountable.

Let's just have a friggin free for all "Friday Nite Slap Down!"
Waterboard right in the wrestling ring! It won't kill anyone!

Hell, let's bring back the "stocks" and tomatoe the bastard. That's a whole lot less "cruel and unusal punishment".
And while we're at it bring back the iron maiden!

And how about bull whipping the prick, it won't kill him. How about electro shock they are allowing that in Psyco wards now. They say it doesn't hurt, just scares'm back to fear reality.

Oh, while we're at it let's just allow it in the schools to disapline the unruly, and we might as well just use these tactics in the interragation rooms of our local police stations too.

I mean all of a suddden domestic violence is mellow compared to ...well anything. Whipping children for not telling use the truth shoiuld be acceptable parental practice, it won't kill'm.

Did you hear this idiot on Cspan book review on 11/19. Author Ronald Kessler wrote this book,"Terror Watch".
Anyway he declared that Waterboarding is not torture because the military uses it in training to troops so they can over come the fear involved in it. So it must be an acceptable practice.

But what should we call this kind of stuff? Cross examination?

Let me just say this if it happens to you, and you think you are going to die or hope or wish it would kill you, it is torture. That's a hell of a lot different than submitting to have it done to as an experiment "knowing" you are not going to be killed, (you hope.

But even so, drownding does do irreversable damage to the respiratory system and the fear of drownding when under water you carry with you your whole life. That's a horrible fear to live with.

But I guess it's better than living a shorter life than that given to you by being contaminated by depleted uranium!

I gotta get out of here and waterboard my kid brother for hiding my MP3 player. I'll find out where the little jerk hid it.

First I have to get my Ak-47 that the US lost and gave to me. It was one of ony 190,000 they inadvertantly misplaced, LOL.
Where in hell does the U.S. Get AK-47s from anyway? I thought they make and use M-16's

My gawd what a bunch of brain dead denialings. It's so friggin insane it's hard to wrap you mind around.

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The term is a frightening one. You may not choose to deal with it realistically. The trauma induced by torture will cause the act to be buried in the unconscious. It is not the fault of the tortured one. The ordinary healthy mind will bury this information or see it as happening to someone else . . . Promises continually made and broken is a form of torture. Many of us refuse to see it that way because our own parents used this method of controlling us to some extent. Do this or else that won’t happen . . .

But torture is torture. NO MATTER WHERE IT ORIGINATES. If we say yes to any torture at all we have opened the floodgate to the Eighth Ring of hell! Do not wax hypocritical folks; the Goose and the Gander are the same bird . . . so what! Because Joe in Lapland or Hong Kong did it is no excuse to do it here, and I do not want to be guilty of torture for you! If I do it then fine I go to jail or get executed my bad! Just, DO NOT TORTURE IN MY NAME WITHOUT MY PERMISSION, and I will do my own torturing thanks. This is my torture right here you get to listen to me bitch!

I bitch because I can bitch ‘cause I’m better than you, in the way that I do the things that I do! (Apologies to Elton) Ok now to the whole McGuffin!

Mr. Ashcroft, you sweet fatherless Rat, be my Jest! Only . . . I get to do the WATER BOARDING! You will definitely NOT survive my water boarding! You are a fool sir. You cannot propose to this kind of thing without demonstrating your foolishness, just as I cannot offer to help without being guilty of foolishness too! Our government is rampant with such fools as you and WE the People who put you in your position of power and authority are now too spineless to take you out of it! You are fortunate that you know that!
But, I will bitch till I get hoarse and squeak like a wounded F----t for justice at least! You are a traitor to the constitution of the United States of America and should be tried as one! You and the entire Cabinet of Fools who back this Equestrian Derriere should be tried as Traitors to the constitution for just The PATRIOT Act Public Law 107-56 alone! Legislating who is a Patriot my Royal Bloody black backside! God folks, can you believe how stupid we are? We have let the fox run the hen house!!!

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Who assumes that water boarding is not fatal? Some of the jail dead who have been buried after removal from Abu Grhab, Guantanimo and unknown others?? Put Ashcroft in the hands of Blackwater mercenaries disguised as a hooded Muslim and labeled as dangerous. That would put the fear of death in him because it is not reasonable to assume that none have been suffocated in this torture. How can the media assume it is a non-lethal torture and allow the Bush non-lethal defense to stand. Shame on all Americans.

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