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Cheney Visits Hunting Lodge That Hangs Confederate Flag

Posted by Faiz Shakir at 6:42 AM on October 30, 2007.


Faiz Shakir: While Cheney’s office says it did not see the flag, it has yet to condemn the club for hanging the divisive symbol of hate.
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This post, written by Faiz Shakir, originally appeared on Think Progress

Last week, the Poughkeepsie Journal reported that Vice President Dick Cheney was planning to go hunting in upstate New York over the weekend. The paper reported that Cheney would "head to the Clove Valley Rod & Gun Club in LaGrangeville" on Monday morning.

Yesterday, Cheney spent eight hours hunting at the "secluded Hudson Valley gun club where well-heeled enthusiasts shoot ducks and pheasants." It was his second visit to the club; the previous trip was in fall 2001.

Although Cheney did not shoot anyone on this hunting excursion, the New York Daily News reports that the trip still managed to stir up problems for the Vice President:

Nobody got shot, but Vice President Cheney still fired up controversy Monday when he went hunting at a private club that hangs the Confederate flag.

A Daily News photographer captured the 3-by-5 foot Dixie flag affixed to a door in the garage of the Clove Valley Gun and Rod Club in upstate Union Vale, N.Y.

"It's appalling for the VP to be at a private club displaying the flag of lynching, hate and murder," said Rev. Al Sharpton. "It's the epitome of an insult."

Cheney spokeswoman Megan Mitchell said, "No one in our office was aware there was such a flag. The vice president did not see a flag, nor did anyone on his staff traveling with him in New York." The Daily News photographer who took the picture, Howard Simmons, said "the flag was plainly viewable in the strong sunlight streaming toward the garage", but he also "said it is conceivable the garage door could have been closed when the vice president and his guests were there."

The Daily News reports that officials with the Clove Valley Rod & Gun Club belligerently refused to respond to the controversy:

Club officials threatened a reporter with arrest when he sought comment.

The Confederate flag has historically been used by Republican operatives to galvanize conservative activists. While Cheney's office says it did not see the flag, it has yet to condemn the club for hanging the divisive symbol of hate.

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Faiz Shakir is the Research Director at the Center for American Progress and serves as Editor of ThinkProgress.org and The Progress Report.


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i suppose he toyed with the confederate flag in college
Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Oct 30, 2007 7:05 AM   
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but never inhaled.

a sad, vulnerable old man. the good thing is he, too, will die. sometimes i think that is all he has in common with the common man.

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Confederate flag not a symbol of hate
Posted by: LiberalRedneck on Oct 30, 2007 7:12 AM   
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It's appalling for the VP to be at a private club displaying the flag of lynching, hate and murder," said Rev. Al Sharpton. "It's the epitome of an insult." Rev. Al is wrong again. Any item can be a symbol, and the symbol will only bring up images and thoughts YOU have associated with it. The flag is not a symbol of hate even though the skinheads and KKK have hijacked it for their own perverted use. Slave ships flew the U.S. flag. No Confederate ship did. Rev. Al "Tawana Brawley" Sharpton loves to preach ignorance, and here he is again trying to create a controversy. I have a Confederate flag at my home and just participated in a headstone dedication for Confederate soldiers. I am proud of my Confederate ancestors and my southern heritage. I am sure you will now call me a racist and a bigot. If I am, why am I married to a person of another race?

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» Sorry, but you're mistaken Posted by: xconservative
Yet, oddly, it is ok to wave, parade, display the Mexican flag at protests,
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Oct 30, 2007 9:48 AM   
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on store-fronts, on cars (usually with a Calvin pissing on La Migre), at public schools, on courthouses, and while blocking traffic on public streets. The Confederate flag is banned, or at least shunned, due to perceived racism or because we had a war with the Confederacy. But we've also had several wars with Mexico and, yet, it is 'ok' to display the Mexican flag? And this is even encouraged by many despite the wars, skirmishes, and conflict between the USA and Mexico. It is also a symbol of "La Raza" (translated "the race") but, of course, it is 'ok' to have pride if you a non-white (non-hispanic) race?

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» Problems with math or history? Posted by: xconservative
» RE: Problems with math or history? Posted by: albrechtkrausse
» RE: Problems with math or history? Posted by: xconservative
» So you want to go back to the days... Posted by: xconservative
» Freedom of conscience. Posted by: albrechtkrausse
» Fat chance of that Posted by: xconservative
» Evil is evil Posted by: xconservative
They're flying the wrong flag to represent this administration...
Posted by: ~Fiona~ on Oct 30, 2007 10:56 AM   
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The "Swastika" suits them Soooo much better...

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New Yorkers flying the Con. Flah= Almost amusing but mostly ugly
Posted by: DesertStone on Oct 30, 2007 10:58 AM   
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Well I don’t know if the Confederate flag is a symbol of hate to everyone or not but I think when a bunch of New Yorkers fly it, it isn’t exactly a welcome symbol. Why fly a flag that doesn’t even represent your heritage unless you feel it is conveying a specific message, in this case an ugly one?

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Lodge Brew
Posted by: Gaubladt on Oct 30, 2007 12:05 PM   
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He must have been too drunk to see it.

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Oh come on..
Posted by: l_m_n on Oct 30, 2007 4:09 PM   
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Several official US buildings have the Confederate Flag hanging.

Yeah, it's not right, and yeah, I hate Cheney.

But this is a non-issue.

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» RE: Oh come on.. Posted by: zorro
which flag?
Posted by: Fairybear on Oct 30, 2007 4:51 PM   
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I agree that you (and I) should be proud of our Confederate ancestors. I honor them for their courage and industry and grieve over their racism and slavery.
Why is it that the Confederate flag most often seen is the Confederate Battle Flag?
There were three national flags I, for one, would have no problem with the Stars and Bars. Even The Stainless Banner with the St. Andrew's Cross and stars would be preferable to the flag which has come to symbolize hate and bigotry.

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Upstate ny
Posted by: zorro on Oct 31, 2007 7:17 AM   
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How very very sad--New York, my state--flying the flag of Southern ghouls--the state so influential in the abolition of the slaves. Syracuse, my hometown, was one of the most influential cities in the abolition movement and a link in the underground railroad. Southern rednecks in new york--shame shame shame. I know many upstateers are ignorant Bush supporters but a confederate flag--pathetic. The North moves South and the South moves NOrth. I must admit--I felt a stitch in my stomach just hearing that the Demon Cheny was in my state. I give up. The world is full of stupid people.

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symbolism
Posted by: zorro on Oct 31, 2007 7:24 AM   
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The flag is symbolic of this regimes hatred to democracy and freedom.

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