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Dodd: Warrantless Wiretaps Are a "Victory" for Terrorists

Posted by Scarecrow at 6:21 AM on October 24, 2007.


Scarecrow: Senator Dodd leads on the FISA bill, while Senators Clinton and Obama follow...sort of.
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This post, written by Scarecrow, originally appeared on FireDogLake

"When you give up basic Constitutional rights, you give terrorists a far greater victory in ways," Dodd said during an online video chat.

There's a huge difference between people who are actual leaders and who happen to want to be President, and people who want to be President so they can be the leader. We're seeing that difference right now in the debate over whether the FISA bill will award retroactive immunity to the telecoms for their complicity in the Bush Administration's illegal spying programs.

Chris Dodd showed his leadership last week, announcing he would place a hold on, and if needed, personally filibuster any bill that granted the telecoms immunity. His principled stand to uphold the Constitution and the rule of law was immediately joined by Senator Feingold, who, like Dodd, has been a champion of the Constitution, insisting on the FISA (and Fourth Amendment) requirement to obtain individual warrants before conducting surveillance on US persons. And to his credit, Senator Biden gave an unqualified, unhestitating "yes" when asked if he supported Dodd's position.

These men understand that upholding the rule of law requires holding the Administration and those complicit in their lawbreaking accountable for their actions. Granting immunity for willfully violating a criminal statute and the Fourth Amendment's guarantee against warrantless searches undermines the Constitution and the rule of law, one of those "self evident truths" that should not need explaining.

These are the Democratic Party's true leaders. They understand that defending the Constitution is their first duty as citizens and elected officials. They did not wait to see which way the wind was blowing or see what their colleagues (or other candidates) might say or check to see if they might be supported. They knew what needed to be said and done and that's what they did.

Dodd, Feingold and Biden understand that the Constitution and the rule of law are under siege by a lawless Administration and that it is critical for principled officials to stand up against this assault. They know that some of their colleagues are weak and susceptible to other influences. Someone has to lead, to defend the Constitution, to take the risks that their stands might be unpopular or lonely, but to set the standard that others will follow. It is because of patriotic leaders like Senators Dodd and Feingold that we have a Constitution in the first place, and why, at critical times in our history when it was under siege, the Constitution persevered and served our nation well for over 200 years.

There are others who aspire to leadership, but do not readily demonstrate it, but whose support in following the leaders is nevertheless essential. So we should welcome the statements yesterday from Senators Obama and Clinton that indicate -- sort of -- they will support a filibuster of at least the "current bill" if it contains retroactive immunity for telecoms.

Here, via TPM's Greg Sargent, is a statement from Senator Obama's spokesman from yesterday:

"Senator Obama has serious concerns about many provisions in this bill, especially the provision on giving retroactive immunity to the telephone companies. He is hopeful that this bill can be improved by the Senate Judiciary Committee. But if the bill comes to the Senate floor in its current form, he would support a filibuster of it."

And here, via Greg Sergant from TPM, is Senator Clinton's statement:

Q: Can you discuss your position on the reauthorization of the FISA bill?

HRC: I am troubled by the concerns that have been raised by the recent legislation reported out of the Intelligence Committee. I haven't seen it so I can't express an opinion about it. But I don't trust the Bush Administration with our civil rights and liberties. So I'm going to study it very hard. As matters stand now, I could not support it and I would support a filibuster absent additional information coming forward that would convince me differently.

Neither of these statements is as definitive as it should be, nor as clear on the important principles at stake. And both statements leave wiggle room -- in Clinton's case far too much. What does she stand for? What will she risk to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution? I honestly can't tell. It's agonizing to ponder how Clinton and her aides must have agonized over the wording of that statement.

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Tagged as: clinton, obama, election08, biden, fisa, dodd, domestic spying, warantless wiretapping

Scarecrow is a regular blogger for FireDogLake


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Thanks for the Courage, Gentlemen!
Posted by: warrior woman on Oct 24, 2007 9:10 AM   
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Thanks for the Courage, Gentlemen! And for doing the right thing.

Should we allow the immunity in question, would the legal precedents be set such that we would get no where in investigating the wrongful and illegal wiretapping and who knows what else? This plan of the rightwing is dangerous. Dodd is right that the terrorists win, the problem lies in identifying who the terrorists actually are, our own political servants or bad guys overseas or both. It's much easier to control us if we are in fear, doesn't matter of who!

I worry everyday that this unfettered power that has been gained by this current executive branch is also very tempting to the Democrats who think they will take office in 2009. There would be little difference in an all powerful Democratic president compared to this now powerful regime. Our civil and constitutional rights would be gone and we don't have a judiciary that will defend the Constitution because they're controlled by the Conservative branch and they're there until they retire or pass away in office (I refer to the Supreme Court). We really need these people to stand up and stay standing up for us.

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Ms. Mary Darling
Posted by: Mary Darling on Oct 24, 2007 11:23 AM   
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I believed when Senator Dodd had been pushed too far he would find his inner strength and stand firm against one of our
poorest presidents. I pray you go the distance.

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racoach
Posted by: racoach on Oct 24, 2007 6:54 PM   
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I think it most likely that one or more of the Demo candidates and all but one of the Repub candidates, once in office, will maintain the status quo they inherit. That specific factor is why they are receiving the funding, as in Murdock now contributes to the Clinton campaign.

WE DO NOT NEED SOMEONE TO STAND UP FOR US - WE MUST STAND UP FOR OURSELVES! (Yes, I intended to shout.)

We must try to claim a government by, of, and for the people.
We have ample example of what happens when we try to vote. Yes, voting is good but that is not enough now. We must speak loudly enough for the voice of the people to be heard.

A reasonable place to start may be a one-day strike, say on Nov. 6, 2007. If we, the people, don't "do it", who will?

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FISA Immunity and Clinton
Posted by: Urgelt on Oct 25, 2007 10:43 AM   
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Clinton is a corporatist. That's where her big funding comes from, and that's where her loyalties are, same as Bush.

She wants to *look* responsible on FISA. But she doesn't want to bite the hand that feeds her. This issue makes her squirm with discomfort.

She can defy the telecom lobby only if the majority of the Senate is rallying to defy it. She can then tell them "what can I do? The winds are blowing against us, and I have to tack." But the last thing she can afford to do is get out in front and lead on this issue. That, her corporate sponsors would not forgive.

It's truly a mystery to me why so many Democrats haven't caught on.

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