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Ron Paul Schools Dems; Stands Up Against Terror Hysteria

Posted by Joshua Holland at 1:00 PM on October 22, 2007.


Joshua Holland: Paul offers what the mainstream of the two parties won't: a plain analysis of what the "War on Terror" frame has allowed Bush to get away with.
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When he's not railing against public education or warning of the threat the Bilderbergs and their New World Order represent, Paul keeps busy being 100% right about the War on Terrrrrrr.

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Behind the Ron Paul sensation is a desperate desire for someone, anyone, to stand up and call "bullshit" on the "War on Terror" and all that it has entailed, from illegal surveillance of citizens and nightmarish foreign adventures to an executive branch mad with power and drunk on its sense of entitlement.

Last week Paul, whose opposition to much of the 20th century makes him terrible on just about every issue which touches the political economy and whose Birchian isolationism leas him to embrace conspiracy theories about shady cabals of globalists undermining American sovereignty and sapping our precious bodily fluids (not to mention his little white supremacy problem), simply schooled Democrats on how to roll back the disasters of the Bush era introducing the "American Freedom Agenda Act of 2007."

Some highlights of the act [HT: Steven D at Booman Trib]:

(a) Findings- Congress makes the following findings:

(1) Unchecked power by any branch leads to oppressive transgressions on individual freedoms and ill-considered government policies.

(2) The Founding Fathers enshrined checks and balances in the Constitution to protect against government abuses to derail ill-conceived domestic or foreign endeavors.

(3) Checks and balances make the Nation safer by preventing abuses that would be exploited by Al Qaeda to boost terrorist recruitment, would deter foreign governments from cooperating in defeating international terrorism, and would make the American people reluctant to support aggressive counter-terrorism measures.

(4) Checks and balances have withered since 9/11 and an alarming concentration of power has been accumulated in the presidency based on hyper-inflated fears of international terrorism and a desire permanently to alter the equilibrium of power between the three branches of government.

(5) The unprecedented constitutional powers claimed by the President since 9/11 subtracted national security and have been asserted for non-national security purposes.

(6) Experience demonstrates that global terrorism can be thwarted, deterred, and punished through muscular application of law enforcement measures and prosecutions in Federal civilian courts in lieu of military commissions or military law.

Then the nitty-gritty:

(a) The Military Commissions Act of 2006 is hereby repealed.

(b) The President is authorized to establish military commissions for the trial of war crimes only in places of active hostilities against the United States where an immediate trial is necessary to preserve fresh evidence or to prevent local anarchy.

(c) The President is prohibited from detaining any individual indefinitely as an unlawful enemy combatant absent proof by substantial evidence that the individual has directly engaged in active hostilities against the United States, provided that no United States citizen shall be detained as an unlawful enemy combatant.

(d) Any individual detained as an enemy combatant by the United States shall be entitled to petition for a writ of habeas corpus under section 2241 of title 28, United States Code.

SEC. 4. TORTURE OR COERCED CONFESSIONS.

No civilian or military tribunal of the United States shall admit as evidence statements extracted from the defendant by torture or coercion.

SEC. 5. INTELLIGENCE GATHERING.

No Federal agency shall gather foreign intelligence in contravention of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (50 U.S.C. 1801 et seq.). The President's constitutional power to gather foreign intelligence is subordinated to this provision.

SEC. 6. PRESIDENTIAL SIGNING STATEMENTS.

The House of Representatives and Senate collectively shall enjoy standing to file a declaratory judgment action in an appropriate Federal district court to challenge the constitutionality of a presidential signing statement that declares the President's intent to disregard provisions of a bill he has signed into law because he believes they are unconstitutional.

SEC. 7. KIDNAPPING, DETENTIONS, AND TORTURE ABROAD.

No officer or agent of the United States shall kidnap, imprison, or torture any person abroad based solely on the President's belief that the subject of the kidnapping, imprisonment, or torture is a criminal or enemy combatant; provided that kidnapping shall be permitted if undertaken with the intent of bringing the kidnapped person for prosecution or interrogation to gather intelligence before a tribunal that meets international standards of fairness and due process. A knowing violation of this section shall be punished as a felony punishable by a fine or imprisonment of up to 2 years.

Steven asks the obvious question: "Why wasn't this the first piece of legislation proposed by Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid when they assumed control over the House and Senate, respectively?" The answer is fairly obvious: Paul can propose it and it plays to his reputation as the cantankerous oddball of the GOP, but Dems are terrified of being called soft on anything, and they’re right in their belief that if they offered this kind of plain, commonsense measure, it would be twisted into the "I Love Osama Judicial Activism and Forced Abortions for Everyone Act" by the beltway press simply because it was proposed by Dems and the media loves stories about supposed Democratic weakness.. The sad truth is that it’s become a systemic problem — their fear compels them to embrace even the most unpopular and illiberal policies if they sound tough, and to run away from confrontation on issues that should be slam-dunks like opposing torture and warantless wiretapping.

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Joshua Holland is an editor and senior writer at AlterNet.


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So...
Posted by: Xynyx on Oct 22, 2007 1:12 PM   
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fire/recall/replace the pathetic weasels who won't stand up and do what needs to be done, come hell or high water.

I'm so sick of "leaders" who do nothing but cave. I'm ready to personally kick their asses, but it would really be best if we could just remove them from their jobs for incompetence.

Nobody should construe my comments to mean that I would be happy with any Republican replacing any Democrat... not that I'm really sure of the difference anymore... what the GOP has orchestrated is beyond treasonous, and Ron Paul is nailing it on the head.

It doesn't take a loon to do this... it takes a MAN... or a WOMAN... one of the REAL KIND. These cardboard props we have in office now can blow away in the breeze.

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» RE: on Paul and Dennis Kucinich Are Best Bets Posted by: disgustedandamused
» RE: So... Posted by: donl51
An excellent, immodest, proposal.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Oct 22, 2007 1:15 PM   
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Paul has it right on what's most important. As for the rest:

...makes him terrible on just about every issue which touches the political economy and whose Birchian isolationism leas him to embrace conspiracy theories about shady cabals of globalists undermining American sovereignty and sapping our precious bodily fluids (not to mention his little white supremacy problem)

A strict adherence to checks and balances would prevent him from single-handedly upending any of the social issues precious to progressives. The economics, on the other hand, are a mixed bag what with the power of the executive to negotiate and/or fast track (but not ratify) treaties and what not. I highly doubt the "harm" he could do by abandoning protectionism would be outweighed by the good that would come of ending the lethal, expensive misadventures in Iraq.

Read the linky re: racism. The middle one is indeed fairly ugly. The other two are politically incorrect vocalized observations of the data at hand.

But that's just my opinion.

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But... "We have to lie and cheat and steal and torture..."
Posted by: eddie torres on Oct 22, 2007 3:18 PM   
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"...because we represent what's good in the world."

Holding my breath until someone throws in a "Return To The 1973 War Powers Resolution" act, a "Corporations Are Not People" act, and a "Publicly Financed Elections" act.

Then I'll know for sure Congress is no longer captured by DeLay's Texas anymore.

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Why does Alternet, an allegedly "progressive" source, support Bilderbergers
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Oct 22, 2007 4:51 PM   
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and like groups? They are the ANTI-THESIS of progressivism or any type of representative democracy. Yet, Alternet authors, again and again, support such elite groups as Bilderbergers, CFR, PNAC, Tri-Lateral Commission, Bohemian Grove club, Skull&Bones, etc. Why?? These groups are elitist, non-democratic, and composed of the world's rich and, yet, they are supported by Alternet? Strange.....the fact is:
1) rich people (like anyone else) also commit crimes, including those of conspiracy (or are we do believe that only 'brownskinned' drug dealers or 'swarthy' Italians commit organised crime and conspiracy). To think otherwise is ridiculuos. History is fraught with price-fixing schemes, corporate frauds, coups, royal plots, fixed elections, etc.
2) when the richest of the rich gather with world leaders in secret we all should worry.....

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» As usual ... Posted by: Joshua Holland
» Albrecht - wingnut for hire Posted by: zipper696
» Back it up or shut it up Posted by: Joshua Holland
» How about the facts. Posted by: albrechtkrausse
» Let's cut through it Posted by: Joshua Holland
So Paul Has Some Racist Opinions & Associates
Posted by: bcgirl125 on Oct 22, 2007 9:10 PM   
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The current darling of the progressive left, Barack Obama, is on tour with a noted homophobe, Donnie McCLurkin. Hillary Clinton has the support of Rupert Murdoch. Mitt Romney's staff like to impersonate the Secret Service. You won't have to look far to discover seedy influences on, and weird ideas from, any of the current candidates.

At least Ron Paul speaks out consistently and strongly about the insanity of the Iraq war and the whole drummed-up "War On Terror", which is more than the other candidates do. Not that I personally like Paul much, but he does have some good points completely lacking in most of the current crop running for office.

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» Did you forget about Kucinich? Posted by: EKSwitaj
» RE: Gravel is the man, 2008 Posted by: pammers
» RE: Gravel is the man, 2008 Posted by: Cooltruth
Get To Work
Posted by: NoPCZone on Oct 23, 2007 12:45 AM   
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Call your Congressional Delegation and ask them to co-sponsor this fine bill. Rep. Paul is spot-on with Civil Liberties, like most Libertarians, even though his views on economics, etc are not.

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Biased against Ron Paul (so what else is new?)
Posted by: xvictor on Oct 23, 2007 6:20 AM   
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I read in yesterday's New York Times and the New York Daily News concerning the recent republican debates held in Florida. I was shocked to discover that there was no mention of Ron Paul in either of them, despite consistent text polling declaring Mr. Paul the best candidate by far. The media has an irrational hatred of Ron Paul and strongly wants to ignore him. I just hope intelligence and common sense overtakes the voting population and propel him to national prominence. But, alas, I will not hold my breath.

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I have a good plan
Posted by: chaoslegs on Oct 23, 2007 7:15 AM   
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If Ron Paul is willing to enforce regulations (on corporations), which I am not sure he is. After all he is a Libertarian (usually not mentioned), not just an odd-ball GOP congress member. Then I propose that the next president make him the Attorney General. He will definitely be a crusader for civil liberties.

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Socialists hate Paul
Posted by: BJT on Oct 23, 2007 8:28 AM   
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His opposition to "much of the 20th century" is his opposition to the repeated episodes of governments throughout the 20th century to mind their own beeswax. In the 20th century, governments alone killed more than 200 million people. They just plain should NOT have anywhere near the power we give them. America has prospered IN SPITE of government interventions, and that pattern won't last much longer.

Paul's policy of open trade and communication is not isolationism. The pro-war clowns are isolationists.

That said, the first paragraph of the article is good. The second is complete nonsense. Those points "against" Paul have been refuted by others numerous times, so I won't bore you with them here. Besides, in this forum, could anyone really hear it over their screaming fear of economic freedom and Christianity?

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» RE: Socialists hate Paul Posted by: donl51
When will the "progressives"
Posted by: banjoeyes1234 on Oct 23, 2007 11:21 AM   
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who tout sustainable agriculture, ever grasp the concept that collectivism is not sustainable?
http://tinyurl.com/2uecbh

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Did Ron Paul vote against this war as Dennis Kucinich did?
Posted by: AlaskaSteven on Oct 23, 2007 1:03 PM   
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As I recall, Dennis Kucinich was the lone vote against the war and all of these associated ills which Ron Paul now excoriates, and what is more Dennis Kucinich has been saying all of this for a very long time.

As for "Behind the Ron Paul sensation is a desperate desire for someone, anyone, to stand up and call 'bullshit' on the 'War on Terror' and all that it has entailed, from illegal surveillance of citizens and nightmarish foreign adventures to an executive branch mad with power and drunk on its sense of entitlement," well, Dennis Kucinich has been working his butt off for decades in exactly this regard. Dennis Kucinich not only called "bullshit!" on the war and Imperial Presidency, but voted against it. Actions count. Where was Ron Paul?

I admire some of the Libertarian ethos Ron Paul puts forth but it seems a facile bit of revisionist history to drape him in the flag and salute him as a hero on these issues while not even mentioning Dennis Kucinich's tireless contributions. To understand the Ron Paul phenomenon one need look no further than a very simple explanation: the mobs of Right-leaning knee-jerk reactionary nationalist flag-wavers who were unreflective, naive and shallow enough to be duped into being Ditto-Heads for BushCo (a subsidiary corporation of CheneyCo) have now realized they shot themselves in the foot. Better late than never. Whether through being unreflective and ignorant or just holding a stubborn and self-defeating aversion to the genuine revolutionary progressive Dennis Kucinich, their loud bray is now for Ron Paul.

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If only...
Posted by: Rrrandy Wurst on Oct 23, 2007 5:35 PM   
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If only Ron Paul weren't a Libertarian. Unfortunately, with Paul we also get privatized roads, schools, fire departments, police (read Blackwater), and probably water, with air not far behind.

The big Ron Paul buzz is happening only because he's listed with the Republicans, which he became only to get elected. Gee whiz, a Republican who wants to end the war and give us back our Constitution. Think before voting for that (good stuff) in the Ron Paul package (bunch of bad stuff).

Are you pissed at the Democrats and disgusted with the Republicans? Who should you vote for? Well, lemme see, maybe, er, ah, possibly you should vote for...ME, William Randolph "Rrrandy" Wurst of the Horse Sense Party.
(www.wurstwisdom.com)

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» RE: If only... Posted by: ogvor
» RE: If only...yea? so what? Posted by: donl51
» RE: If only... Posted by: ds4081
Wrong, Paul voted against the war, all the way back to 1998
Posted by: Chris S on Oct 24, 2007 10:29 AM   
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Paul voted against regime change in Iraq in 1998, and has been consistently against the escalation and resulting Iraq War.

Get your facts straight, Paul NEVER, EVER, supported the Iraq War. Or any other war for that matter.

Nice try, I respect Kucinich on his War position, but he was NOT alone, as a matter of fact, Kucinich and Paul work together quite a bit on the war. Paul and Kucinich were also the ONLY two members of Congress to vote against condemning Iran for its presidents mistranslated comments regarding Israel. They know where those resolutions and votes lead.

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Please, do some research.
Posted by: ds4081 on Oct 24, 2007 10:53 AM   
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You guys assume way to much when it comes to Ron Paul. Roads, Schools, Fire department, Police, these are state/county/city functions. Ron Paul wouldn't change this. The Less Fed involvement in these things the better, lets give power back to the locals and the parents and communities. Stop trying to spread the hate. Get a grip. He has some Libertarian tendencies but most Libertarians wouldn't call him a true Libertarian, he is a mixture of Republican/Libertarian/Constitution. I think it makes a pretty good mix. Ron Paul , Kucunich really are the only two running with the small guy in mind. Actually watch some real interviews with Ron Paul ,explaining the issues answering the concerns, don't spread lies.

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Racism comments Debunked
Posted by: jmix on Oct 24, 2007 12:09 PM   
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Those racist comments, specifically the middle one cited in that link, have been debunked. The middle comment was NOT written or said by Ron Paul, and it is unfortunate that his name was associated with it, as it was not authorized by him. He is not a racist, in fact, he stands up against all forms of racism, including government sponsored. Those trying to link the abolition of welfare or affirmitive action with racism are looking at this the wrong way.

Ron Paul on racism:

“Racism is simply an ugly form of collectivism, the mindset that views humans strictly as members of groups rather than individuals…..

…..By encouraging Americans to adopt a group mentality, the advocates of so called diversity actually perpetuate racism. Their obsession with racial group identity is inherently racist…..

…..We should understand that racism will endure until we stop thinking in terms of groups and begin thinking in terms of individual liberty.”

----Congressman Ron Paul, April 18, 2007

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» Whan? How? By whom? Posted by: Joshua Holland
"white supremacy problem"?
Posted by: Somerandomguy on Oct 24, 2007 5:49 PM   
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I thought it was common knowledge that he never wrote comments. It was a ghostwriter, and it was leaked before he got the chance to review it. He never said anything remotely close to it before the newsletter, and he never said anything like it afterward.

"He later explained that he had not written the passages himself — quite believably, since the style diverges widely from his own."

NYT

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» You're kidding me, right? Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: You're kidding me, right? Posted by: Somerandomguy
» RE: You're kidding me, right? Posted by: Joshua Holland
Thank you, Ron Paul! The American Freedom Agenda Act
Posted by: PaulKruger on Nov 2, 2007 9:50 AM   
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THANK YOU, RON PAUL! THE AMERICAN FREEDOM AGENDA
by Christine Smith

I was so pleased to see Ron Paul introduce the "American Freedom Agenda Act" to Congress, and I urge everyone to tell their representatives to co-sponsor it.

This bill is what America is about...restoring basic American principles ensuring protection from government abuse. Now, more than ever in our history, we must do something to halt tyrannical dictatorial powers and all government abuses (such as suspension of habeas corpus). In my opinion, we've got an executive branch that's out of control - no checks and balances to speak of - and now is the time to stop the downward spiral our government is taking our country on.

The foundation of liberty we value is eliminated when the executive has the power of indefinite imprisonment, Pentagon/military tribunals, and torture. If the fundamental cornerstone of liberty continues to be eroded and stripped away, our future as a nation is indeed bleak.

Justice is being mocked as the government uses the tactic of fear to encourage the American people to give up civil liberties in the name of "security"...but Ron Paul is standing up, once again, for our liberty.

This is not a partisan issue. It is and must be recognized as the most important issue of our day by every American.

I ask everyone to read HR 3835 IH:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-3835

and to then contact their representatives asking them to co-sponsor it. You can easily do so through websites (just search "American Freedom Pledge" to find websites which help you efficiently contact your representatives about this bill.)

We must not give up our rights and freedoms.

Our future - our peace - our liberty and thereby every expression of freedom we cherish is what is at stake.

I signed the American Freedom Pledge on March 20, 2007.

Ron Paul concluded his speech introducing this Bill on Oct. 15, 2007 by saying, "I invite my colleagues to join my efforts to restore the U.S. Constitution by enacting the American Freedom Agenda Act of 2007," and it is up to us to voice our opinions to our representatives to let them we want them to support Dr. Paul because his Bill represents what we as Americans want to restore and preserve: our liberty.

Thank you, Ron Paul, for again having the courage to say it like it is...to challenge the corrupt status quo...to fight for the true American principles.

Christine Smith

Libertarian Candidate for President

http://www.LibertarianForPresident.com

Christine Smith for President
15400 W. 64th Ave., E9-105
Arvada, Colorado 80007

(303) 532-4185

PAID FOR BY CHRISTINE SMITH FOR PRESIDENT

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