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Study Finds That Feminists Have Better Relationships, Sex Lives

Posted by Jill Filipovic at 1:00 PM on October 17, 2007.


Jill Filipovic: Partnerships between equals, and between two people who perceive their partners as equal, are going to be healthier.
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This post, written by Jill Filipovic, originally appeared on Feministe

Another what-we've-been-saying-all-along study: Feminism makes your relationships better.

Contrary to popular opinion, feminism and romance are not incompatible and feminism may actually improve the quality of heterosexual relationships, according to Laurie Rudman and Julie Phelan, from Rutgers University in the US. Their study* also shows that unflattering feminist stereotypes, that tend to stigmatize feminists as unattractive and sexually unappealing, are unsupported.
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They found that having a feminist partner was linked to healthier heterosexual relationships for women. Men with feminist partners also reported both more stable relationships and greater sexual satisfaction. According to these results, feminism does not predict poor romantic relationships, in fact quite the opposite.
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In fact, feminist women were more likely to be in a heterosexual romantic relationship than non-feminist women.
It's not complicated to figure out why feminists would have more fulfilling relationships and better sex lives. When you see your partner as a human being and not a means to an end, you're going to pick a partner you actually like, and your partner is going to feel valued for who they are, not for what they can give you. When you think that sex is a mutually pleasurable event where both partners should be comfortable and fully satisfied and neither should feel guilty or mistreated, you're going to have better sex. When you see women as full-fledged people with full human rights -- not baby incubators, not "the fairer sex," not "compliments" to your existence, not status symbols, not holders of sex, not property, not your own personal support staff -- you're going to enjoy their company more. And they're going to enjoy yours.

Jessica talked about this in her book, and her common-sense observation seems to hold pretty true. Partnerships between equals, and between two people who perceive their partners as equal, are going to be healthier.

Men who think women exist to aid men's dominion are not going to be very good partners to women, and they're going to find themselves mighty frustrated whenever their female partner demonstrates that she has a brain and free will. Women who expect to be treated as sub-human, or who need male companionship for social and economic support, or who think sex is for male pleasure, or who expect their male partners to be unemotional and perpetually "manly" instead of fully human, are going to have a mighty hard time finding happiness in their relationships.

In my picture of a healthy and good relationship, both partners value each other for who they are, not just for what they can do for the other person. Both partners are free to choose who they want to be with, and aren't partnered for the sake of social approval or economic necessity or sexual permissibility. Both partners bring strength to the relationship, and those strengths aren't based on who is "supposed" to be good at what (i.e., he pays the bills and she does the dishes). Both partners have equal say and power within the relationship, and both are free to leave it. Both partners view sex as a pleasure to be shared, not as a bargaining chip to be exchanged for respect or commitment or a ring.

In other words: A feminist relationship.

So file this one under, "feminism is good for everybody."

Thanks to Meggygurl and Jess for the link.

And if you want the feminist undies pictured above, check out mushycat. And there's more than just Feminists Do It Better thongs (although I really want the boy-briefs with that slogan). There's all kinds of feminist and socially progressive clothing. Check it out.

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Tagged as: sex, feminism, women, relationships

Jill Filipovic is a New York-based freelance writer and a law student at NYU. More of her writing is available online at her blog, Feministe.


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I'm pretty sure someone has taken the virtue of empathy...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Oct 17, 2007 1:26 PM   
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...and rebranded it as "feminism". It's also been called "the golden rule" in kindergarten classes around the country. Not that I'm in the least opposed; getting familiar with empathy is great, no matter what road you take to get there. As a free bonus, being thoughtful of others has advantages even outside the bedroom.

When you see women as full-fledged people with full human rights -- not baby incubators, not "the fairer sex," not "compliments" to your existence, not status symbols, not holders of sex, not property, not your own personal support staff -- you're going to enjoy their company more. And they're going to enjoy yours.

You meant "complements", but that doesn't make you a bad person, and you still deserve the opportunity to pursue happiness. The point is well taken, though: if you treat people like an old shoe, don't be surprised if they start to sour on you.

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Another feminist study?
Posted by: Logic's Edge on Oct 17, 2007 2:08 PM   
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After seeing how malleable statistics and definitions are in the hands of Women's Studies departments, these sorts of "studies" are running short on credibility.

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» RE: Another feminist study? Posted by: goeswithness
Feminism is Good For EVERYBODY
Posted by: Deadbeat Dad on Oct 17, 2007 2:38 PM   
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"So file this one under, "feminism is good for everybody."

Many of us don't get that impression when reading feminist oriented authors. The average Joe can't agree with your conclusion after reading this:

http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/

Which is one of the most popular 'feminist' advocacy places on the internet today. Many, many feminists and 'strong women' don't feel the need to engage in egalitarian behavior, intellectually honest conversation, or empathy.

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» RE: Feminism is Good For EVERYBODY Posted by: goeswithness
» RE: Feminism is Good For EVERYBODY Posted by: Deadbeat Dad
Kinder Gentler Feminists--a rare bird
Posted by: Deadbeat Dad on Oct 17, 2007 2:55 PM   
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Feminists look at their relationships as "between two people who perceive their partners as equal,".

That might be true for some feminists. But most of the time, I come away from encounters with feminists which are just like encounters with ‘compassionate conservatives’. The flip side of the same coin.

The attitude seems to be “I’m right, and you’re wrong!” and “I have the law on my side { or money, take your pick}—“and you will do as I say, and you can rot”

Your kinder, gentler version of Feminism is actually a rare thing. I can’t remember the last time I encountered it in my personal life.

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» RE: Somehow, not too surprising..... Posted by: boydranchitos
» RE: Somehow, not too surprising..... Posted by: Deadbeat Dad
Good..Good..Good.....Good Defin..it...ons...
Posted by: ekipnrut on Oct 17, 2007 3:11 PM   
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From the Science Daily article (linked to) in the in the article:
their study* also shows that unflattering feminist stereotypes, that tend to stigmatize feminists as unattractive and sexually unappealing, are unsupported.
Followed by: The authors also tested the validity of feminist stereotypical beliefs amongst their two samples, based on the hypothesis that if feminist stereotypes are accurate, then feminist women should be more likely to report themselves as being single, lesbian, or sexually unattractive, compared with non-feminist women.
Stereotypes are to a large extent literally uncharacteristic of the stereotyped population. So making inferences- forming hypothesis-based on what are essentially false premises is somewhat problematic to begin with. Even more, without clearly articulated DEFINITION(S) of 'feminist' or the characteristic traits of feminism the entire experiment runs into these two (linked) problems. If a stereotype laden
definition of feminism is used ,then since most of the stereotypes are unflattering and negative , e.g. 'sexually unattractive'..who the hell wants to acknowledge that!! :O)..,
there may well be significant level of inaccurate responses.
Furthermore that approach would still skirt the issue of what
bona fide feminism really is at core. In other words you wind up with people lying about stuff that isn't 'feminism' related to begin with.

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I wonder why, then...
Posted by: Q30 on Oct 17, 2007 4:55 PM   
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...feminists don't seem to think it's a serious assault when a man gets punched in the balls while they'd simultaneously consider it a full-scale atrocity if a woman were to have her genitals attacked in the same way.

"Equals" indeed.

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» RE: I wonder why, then... Posted by: Deadbeat Dad
» RE: I wonder why, then... Posted by: goeswithness
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» RE: I wonder why, then... Posted by: goeswithness
» RE: I wonder why, then... Posted by: lepidopteryx
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» RE: I wonder why, then... Posted by: goeswithness
I would think...
Posted by: Suz on Oct 17, 2007 5:06 PM   
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...that ANY human relationship would benefit from treating each other with respect and valuing each other as human beings.

What's the big deal?

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What a sad state of affairs
Posted by: Shey on Oct 18, 2007 6:09 AM   
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... when the idea that relationships between people who view and treat each other as equals are the happiest and most satisfying, still creates so much controversy.

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Better acquainted with their bodies
Posted by: BST on Oct 18, 2007 7:03 AM   
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The term "feminist" had been so co-opted as a dirty word by people who hate assertive women that it makes this subject difficult to address. That said, feminists of 30-40 years ago developed a clear understanding of their bodies and abilities from Our Bodies, Ourselves, a book which was likely barred from many households. As with any broad-brushed group, "feminists" will have in their number people who use the term as an excuse to bash men. That's the fringe. A "true" feminist is a woman who intends to live up to her capacity in all ways regardless of what anyone else would prefer her to do. Loads of feminists are wonderful wives, mothers, co-workers -- or single. Any number of variations. But I do believe it's the fortunate man who has as his partner a woman who is totally comfortable with her body and her right and capacity to enjoy sex. Feminists have known this for a very long time. In a way, it's honoring the man with whom you are engaging, since men, too, deserve a partner who understands their needs.

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can't believe we're still having this discussion at a liberal site
Posted by: goeswithness on Oct 18, 2007 8:19 AM   
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"Contrary to public perception." Good God, whose perception? Feminist was made synonymous with "man hating" by conservatives, by people who want to maintain the power system as it is, and unlike every other social issue, some so-called liberal men allow conservatives to label and define a progressive movement, and repeatedly dismiss the actual definition of feminism. Why? Why would you rather believe people whose propoganda you call out on every other issue? Feminism doesn't make women angry. We're feminists because that's the only way to make things better for ourselves. As is clear from the voices of "progressive" men here, we sure can't count on any justice there. It's reading things like what you guys have written here today, which contain every sexist slur, from the idea that women don't know what's in their own minds until somebody tells them, to the idea that we're supposed to allow ourselves to be savaged and that protecting ourselves is wrong, to the idea that we're supposed to be nice girls and not get angry when we're treated like shit, to the idea that feminists don't even have the right to define "feminist" - men who are antifeminist do - that show us that the time to fight for ourselves is not over.

I've been lucky - most of the men in my life have been feminists and we haven't had "gender issues" - the research stands for itself - when both people are free to be fulfilled and equal in a relationship, everybody's happier. I can see, though, that if someone wasn't as lucky as me, why it would be tempting to write all men off. I understand separation feminism, and if the men in my life had espoused the ideas most of the messages from "liberal" men here do, I might be one of them.

If you wanted to really look at what feminists say, you'd be reading feminist theory, you'd be going to the source, instead of poking around the internet looking for extremists and people who are pissed off and letting off some ill-considered steam. You'd also keep in mind what the women here, that you converse with every day, have to say about feminism. You're surrounded by us. Go back and read MY posts and see how men have been treated by me. Without editing! But those of you who are determined to be against us just aren't ever going to open your minds, so it doesn't matter, does it?

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» Heed this carefully... Posted by: Q30
Marriage as a measure of relationships
Posted by: Logic's Edge on Oct 19, 2007 1:47 AM   
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Let me ask this. If feminism has been so good for relationships, then why do so many marriages fall apart?

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