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Senate Dems Betray Us, Join Republicans In Censuring MoveOn's Petraeus Ad

Posted by Jane Hamsher at 11:00 AM on September 20, 2007.


Jane Hamsher: Democrats would rather just play along with that little kabuki than mount a meaningful fight on just about anything
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This post, written by Jane Hamsher, originally appeared on FireDogLake

I don't even know what to say in the wake of the passage of the Cornyn Amendment to censure MoveOn.

It became apparent yesterday when the Democrats allowed the competing McCain/Warner Amendment onto the floor (which gave Republicans cover for "supporting our troops") that they had absolutely no intention of letting the Webb Amendment pass. It was a complete fantasy to think that they would ever implement anything like the Kleiman strategy -- they do not want to be responsible for forcing troop reductions that could end the war. Because...why? Because the Republicans might be mean to them? Because they'd lose it as a campaign issue for 2008? Because they're so in the tank for all the monied industries feeding at the taxpayer trough due to the war that they just won't go there?

Just like the FISA bill, it was all a charade. And then today, they join with the Republicans in their little moment of mock outrage over MoveOn so we all just don't talk about how badly the war is going. The Democrats have the majority, and THIS is what they let happen?

Bush put Petraeus up there just like he did Colin Powell before him, hoping that he could hide behind a uniform he was never willing to wear himself and claim that anyone who wasn't supporting his pet project was being "anti-military." It doesn't matter who it was or what they said, ANYONE who questioned the word of A Man Called Petraeus was going to be pilloried for it. Nothing less than the complete silence of a domesticated animal would have satisfied them.

And that's what this vote regarding MoveOn means, make no mistake about it. It's not just MoveOn that is having their wrists slapped, it's all of us. All of us who stood together and had the temerity to fight their precious comrade in comity, Joe Lieberman. Those of us who want to push them into doing something on Iraq, which they really don't want to do. It is now the "Sense of the Senate" that the "uncivil" left are not entitled to free speech, especially if we're trying to exercise it to make their lives difficult.

MoveOn said what needed to be said, that the emperor has no clothes. Just like he didn't in 2002 when Bush hid behind Colin Powell and the country accepted his word and his credibility and allowed this godforsaken war to start in the first place. If anybody thought that anyone was going to lift anything more than a symbolic finger to end it ought to be disabusing themselves of that notion right now. Not only are the Democrats not going to criticize the President's brilliant war stratagem, they're going to come together in a Terry Schaivo moment and tell anyone who does to just shut the hell up.

The only one who got this right was Hillary Clinton. She's been on the receiving end of mock right wing outrage before, she knows how it works and she didn't get played by the typical GOP charade that even THEY aren't sincere about. Every word coming out of their mouths on the floor of the Senate this morning was pure santcimonious hypocrisy, dancing on the head of a pin as they tried to distinguish between this and the outrageous things it was perfectly okay to say about Abizaid or Kerry or Max Clelland. But thanks to the willingness of human Gumby dolls like Bill Richardson, Barack Obama and John Edwards who thought it best to bow down before the right wing when it gets its bluster on, the PR blitz nobody would have otherwise cared about kept gaining momentum until it reached this shocking abrogation of free speech with the help of 25 Democrats.

I should actually qualify that -- it wasn't Edwards who bagged MoveOn, he had his wife do it. I suppose that's better somehow. Maybe not as good as Barack "I never met a fight I couldn't duck" Obama who was there to vote on the Boxer Amendment, but couldn't be bothered to stick around and vote against Cornyn. But close.

Well, part of the joy of being a right wing bully is standing up there and knowing you're full of shit, and everyone listening knows you're full of shit, and STILL you force the Democrats to their knees. And it works every time. No doubt they appreciate the Democrats doing their part in this "bipartisan" effort.

The bottom line is that the Democrats would rather just play along with that little kabuki than mount a meaningful fight on just about anything, but particularly ending the war, and they're pretty angry at us for insisting that they do otherwise. Today they got to tell us so.

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Jane Hamsher is the founder of FireDogLake. Her work has also appeared on the Huffington Post, Alternet and The American Prospect.


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way to waste more time...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Sep 20, 2007 10:44 AM   
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... they didn't stand up to this in the first blush of it.. so now they get this. Now oh how can they vote against it without seeming to side with moveon....

They've made their political bed by ass-kissing Petraeus during the hearings over this add... now they have to lie in it.

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General Petraeus has Betrayed Us
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on Sep 20, 2007 11:28 AM   
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First of all, attacking any member of the military is not disgusting, these people are not saints.

Members of the military do one thing better than anything else, Follow Orders.

While this can be beneficial in some circumstances, it most that life throws at us it is detrimental.

A President whom "talks with God", cannot admit to specific mistakes he has made, and blames others for problems he creates, is not someone anyone should take orders from.

That said, it is well known that the cherrypicking of violent deaths has been used to diminish the amount of dead attributed to the war.

The latest studies, using sampling methods used to determine the amount of deaths during natural disasters, put the Iraqi death toll at over 1 million violent deaths more than there would otherwise be if there had been no war.

While accurate records are kept of our soldiers deaths, no accurate records are kept and published on the amount injured, with brain injuries, missing or crippled limbs, paralysis, etc.

While General Petraeus might not be actively doing everything he can to please the President, he was put into that job because Bush wanted him there.

That alone should make us all realize that he is there to serve the President not the public and with his misleading and outright lying during testimony, he has Betrayed Us.

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Why would anyone expect a Congress made up of (mostly) the same bunch...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Sep 20, 2007 11:31 AM   
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...of CongressCritters that abdicated their Constitutional authority to decide when and on what terms to Declare War to stand behind an attack on theater-level commander?

I thought the ad was pretty typical of the move-on movement. However, I have no problems condemning our Congress' condemnation of people--however misguided in my opinion--exercising their free speech, especially that regarding political issues.

My copy of the Constitution tells me that my government has no business "repudiating" the speech of private individuals and groups.

What does yours tell you?

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Can't say I support the Move-On add...
Posted by: ianfan on Sep 20, 2007 11:35 AM   
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...because it was amateurish and rather infantile it's wit, but at the same time the senate wasting time on this is ridiculous.

And where all these defenders of the military when Shinseki was getting ravaged by Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz and all?

This country is completely insane. We've obviously had it too good for way too long. We're asleep at the wheel and Democracy is about to flip over in a ditch as it runs off the road...

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Democrats are the enemies of democracy
Posted by: Freedomrider on Sep 20, 2007 11:36 AM   
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I have an idea for a Senate resolution. Let's taser anyone who criticizes Petraeus!

Democracy is dying and the Democrats are helping. If Moveon caves and apologizes we will know that they are part of the problem too.

Time for civil disobedience and non-violent direct action. The system won't help us.

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They're Listening
Posted by: Jdeese1 on Sep 20, 2007 12:04 PM   
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I believe congress is actually listening to the wishes of the majority of Americans, and kooky fringe left. Ads and public announcements such as these are dangerous to Americans because it gives ammunition to terrorists hearing things from the drive-by-media incorrectly and out of context. The right to free speech should be withheld, and we should respect the nutty New York Times in publishing the article, but we should stand together in condemning this speculative trash.
And...what ever happened to treason?

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» RE: They're Listening Posted by: JoshuaLudd
» RE: They're Listening Posted by: cwilsondrum
» Repugs can't walk their talk. Posted by: monkopotamus
» RE: They're Listening Posted by: cwilsondrum
» Yes, what happened to "treason"? Posted by: buffeliscious
» RE: They're Listening Posted by: peacefullaim
doing the work of 'the people'
Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Sep 20, 2007 12:36 PM   
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busy painting the walls while the ceiling falls in. what a bunch of dip-sh*ts.

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» Who? What? Posted by: monkopotamus
» looks like i stepped in sh*t Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
As a member of MoveOn.org,
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Sep 20, 2007 2:46 PM   
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I'd like to thank the Republican Senators - as well as the Democratics who voted with them - for the tens of millions of $$$ worth of free publicity and airtime they've bestowed upon us.:D

plur

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betrayus
Posted by: cwilsondrum on Sep 20, 2007 9:57 PM   
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they should have used the commander of cent-com's description of patreaus "ass kissing little chickenshit" and see if the repugs said anything let's re-do the ad. then the general can tell us what he thinks of bush

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» RE: betrayus Posted by: peacefullaim
Same as it ever was.
Posted by: Sojourner on Sep 21, 2007 12:35 AM   
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Recall how long it took before we were forced to retreat in Vietnam. I suppose there still are some who think we should have won that war (opps; I mean "police action"). I assume that the model of Anbar province means the new strategy is to back and fund whoever the strongman is in each province, hoping we can buy them off. That way they will only kill each other and not our troops.

So long as we are there, on their turf, they will continue the resistance. It's the endless war of Orwell's "1984," because it's good for business. History tells us it's the reason all empires eventually end.

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litebug
Posted by: litebug on Sep 21, 2007 1:41 AM   
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It's obvious the ad hit a nerve, judging from the over-reaction of the Repugs. This was so pleasing to me that I sent MoveOn $25.

Today the mock outrage continued, culminating in the Senate's censure against free speech by a grass roots organization (as if these clowns had nothing more pressing to do). This made me so angry that I sent MoveOn another $25!

Repug hypocrisy knows no bounds, and it's across the board, on any subject you can mention. Dumocrat spinelessness and triangulating is just as disgusting and dangerous to our democracy. I'm about fed up with everyone except Dennis Kucinich and he can't get fair treatment by the foul corporate media. I hope others who are as sickened and fed up as I am do likewise (increase their donations to MoveOn) and refuse to be intimidated or silenced.

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» Thank you... Posted by: buffeliscious
» RE: Thank you... Posted by: peacefullaim
Nice litebug
Posted by: marid on Sep 21, 2007 4:05 AM   
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I agree, this whole issue is pure fiction and BS. When I get home from work Moveon will get a little money from me too. If I can help an organization that has the guts to fight back against the RW noise machine, I look at it as a privilege.

Great fund raising tactic by Moveon.

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