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NBC's "To Catch a Predator" Faces Lawsuits, Mounting Criticism

Posted by David Cassel at 1:54 PM on August 24, 2007.


David Cassel: Former producers of the show reveal how it blurs the line between television and law enforcement and other apparent lapses in journalism ethics.
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This post, written by David Cassel, originally appeared TECH.Blorge.com

Dateline's "To Catch a Predator" series has become a target itself for criticism -- by 20/20, Esquire, and an online magazine, as well a former producer, a Georgia judge, a local news reporter, and the relatives of two of the show's targets.

In the news segments, online decoys lure men to a house to meet underaged sex partners -- where instead the men are videotaped and arrested. Last year the Washington Post reported that the decoying group received more than $100,000 from NBC after they "hired an agent to negotiate." The show's former producer now says Dateline violated "numerous journalistic ethical standards," and challenges Dateline's argument that the police are performing a separate, parallel investigation, calling it "a ruse".

According to a May lawsuit which appears on The Smoking Gun site, former producer Marsha Bartel objects to NBC also purchasing the surveillance systems used by the police, and notes that the network even pays or "indirectly reimburses" law enforcement officials for the stings. Saying this blurs lines between television and law enforcement, she also spills details about the show's other apparent lapses in journalism. (For example, Dateline's failing to report the police officers "waving rubber chickens in the faces of sting targets while forcing them to the ground and handcuffing them.")

Other aspects of Dateline's methods are also facing scrutiny since the death of an intended target in November. This month Esquire reports that Louis Conradt, a former District Attorney in Texas, had been repeatedly refusing invitations to visit a minor at Dateline's wired-for-taping house. Dateline and police officers then visited his own house, armed with transcripts of his explicit online conversations. When Conradt didn't answer his door, a S.W.A.T team was sent in -- and Conradt shot himself. (Esquire's headline for their story? "Tonight on Dateline This Man Will Die.")

The magazine notes that just five months earlier, Conradt had attended a conference on investigating child sexual abuse, and reported that his friends wondered if he could have been working when Dateline's transcripts were collected. ABC's 20/20 has confirmed that it's preparing an investigation of the sting-gone-bad, according to an article on Reuters. It also notes that Conradt's sister filed a $105 million lawsuit over the death of her brother last month, "claiming that NBC News had invaded his privacy and 'steamrolled' their way with the help of police to arrest him."

Chris Hansen, the show's host, told the magazine he had no regrets about the way the investigation was handled, a comment echoed by Xavier Von Erck, the founder of the group of online decoys. But the group -- called "Perverted Justice" -- also drew some criticism from the former Dateline producer.

She argues that NBC ignored allegations that minors had been used by the group for its online sting operations -- "committing the exact crime it claims it wishes to prevent, i.e., minors being exposed to pornography." Her lawsuit also quotes a disparaging comment by the show's executive producer about the online volunteers, who allegedly said "We all know they're nuts." When her complaints were ignored, she advised NBC that she would not serve as the segment's producer -- and within three months, she was fired, after having worked at NBC for over 20 years. Her lawsuit notes NBC's explanation was a mass layoff (though she had a contract through 2009) -- but her suit then calls the explanation "a ruse to sort out people to terminate."

The former producer's lawsuit also challenges the rationale for the series, disputing Hansen's statement that "at any given time, 50,000 predators were on the internet prowling for children," saying it's actually contradicted by Hansen's own source. Reuters reports additional concerns about Dateline's coverage from a journalism ethics expert at the Poynter Institute. "While she acknowledged that Internet predators are a legitimate concern, she said that more child-sex predators live in the same home as the children, and that if NBC wanted to do a public service that they should do stories on those situations and ways that communities can keep children safe."

According to the web site Radar, Dateline also faced a lawsuit from the father of one of its targets, who was arrested in one of Dateline's earlier investigations. Last month the father asked a judge to issue a warrant for the arrest of Von Erck, the founder of the group of online decoys. His argument? They enticed his son, Robert Gerald White, into committing a felony -- which is also illegal in Georgia. According to Radar, the judge issued an order agreeing that there was "probable cause" to believe enticement had occurred -- but then refused to issue a warrant for Von Erck's arrest. Since there wasn't an actual minor behind the decoy, no actual crime could have been committed.

Reached for comment by the site, Von Erck issued the following statement. "Thanks for contacting us for comment. Unfortunately, you're not a legitimate reporter, you're just a rather scummy fellow who writes for a tabloid rag.

"Other than being told that you're a scummy hack who resembles a stalker more than a journalist, we don't have any comment for you on this issue or any other issue."

It's not the first time Von Erck has bristled when caught himself in a reporter's crosshairs. Von Erck "is real squirmy when the gotcha cam aims his way," Radar wrote sardonically -- displaying over three minutes of video in which the decoy group's founder mocks a reporter who'd received permission to film one of his presentations.



"I know you're old, and you don't have much life left..." Von Erck says, "but when you walk up to me and get in my face, and tell me I'm getting in your face, then we have a problem."

Later he accuses the reporter of inadvertently spitting in his face -- adding "Please keep your dribble to yourself..." -- and objects to the reporter's attitude. ("That's why you're a local reporter, not national.")

He tells a conference organizer to eject the reporter because he "basically spit in my face -- and he's been trying to disrupt the conference."

And in the ultimate irony, he adds that the local reporter was "trying to harass me."

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Tagged as: television, justice system, pornography, sexual abuse, dateline, child molestation

David Cassel is a technology writer living in Silicon Valley. He first went online in 1990, and has covered emerging technologies for groundbreaking sites like Wired News, Salon, and Suck.


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Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Aug 24, 2007 5:20 PM   
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Other aspects of Dateline's methods are also facing scrutiny since the death of an intended target in November. This month Esquire reports that Louis Conradt, a former District Attorney in Texas, had been repeatedly refusing invitations to visit a minor at Dateline's wired-for-taping house. Dateline and police officers then visited his own house, armed with transcripts of his explicit online conversations. When Conradt didn't answer his door, a S.W.A.T team was sent in -- and Conradt shot himself. (Esquire's headline for their story? "Tonight on Dateline This Man Will Die.")

Repeatedly refused invitations... in other words.. he REPEATEDLY refused to actually break the law and actually (to his mind, at least) come over and have sex with a minor.

So someone tell me.... what was his huge crime again????

Talking dirty to a consenting minor who wasn't actually a minor at all, refusing to meet that minor for sex after repeated invitations (can you say entrapment, kids???), refusing to try to actually have sex with a minor.

Now I'll be honest... people ACTUALLY harming children is a serious crime. What is being prosecuted in cases like this just keeps getting further and further from any crime and focusing more and more on intent... and intent is, at least in some cases, obviously being fomented by the cops and the TV vampires who make a buck off of it.

When they start inviting guys over repeatedly even when they refuse... and then come busting down their door when they refuse, are we really protecting anyone from anything?

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The US has 6% of world's population and....
Posted by: chief of okeefe on Aug 24, 2007 5:35 PM   
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... has 25% of the world's prisoners. But Prison Planet, USA, needs to eat more and more bodies.

So keep enticing fools to turn themselves into Felons! Keep on feeding the machine!

In the quest to create the Nirvana Security State, pretty soon everyone will be either a prisoner or a jailer. Then, instead of the "Land of the Free", we can be the "Land of the Watched."

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Thought criminals & such
Posted by: DivaDeb on Aug 24, 2007 6:36 PM   
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Did you see "Final Cut" with Robin Williams? OMFG! Or even Minority Report?

Oh, yeah, I can't wait for the hidden cameras in our brains, to record our thoughts - I'm sure someone will want to make a buck off an idea someone has . . . or use fleeting thoughts of whatever as an excuse to arrest someone or shoot them for that sicko thing they thought once.

Yes, there are sickos out there, lurking, etc, but like the article stated - they are more at risk from the people in their home than strangers, just like you are more likely to be shot by someone in your own home, than by a total stranger.

I was especially disturbed by the people who seemed mildly retarded getting rounded up in these shows. I was grossed out and horrified by the people in those stings - like the guy who brought his kid!!!! WTF!?! The skeptic in me was wondering how much encouragement and reassurance they needed to cross that line and go to the house.

We need to be careful about who is drawing the lines . . . who is setting the standard of what is intent. If I happen upon a website or porn that is "bad" or even illegal, does that make me a criminal, really, deserving to spend time in prison? I didn't buy anything, I didn't personally harm anyone, etc. Will it mean I am now set up to commit a crime based on what I was exposed to? Who says so?

It's that security/liberty thing . . .

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Saw "Running Man" the other day. How amazingly close to true life the movie
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Aug 24, 2007 6:41 PM   
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is. Or watch/read 1984, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451, etc. Often you'll find the 'big brother' police state as described in those novels on par with the modern police state as exists today. I have to say though that 'brave new world' is, probably, the best comparison because it got correct the idea that the police state need not be seen as coercive but through drugs, alcohol, easy sex, stimulation most people won't care what the government is doing.....the other scenarios (real or fiction) the government was too brutal and, ultimately, failed (Stalin, Hitler, etc) total control under the guise of freedom and license is the better option for the bankers....

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The proper place of the news media is to report crime...
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Aug 24, 2007 7:42 PM   
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...not create it.

Let law enforcement work, let the media report.

Not the other way around.

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Dateline's ethical lapse? Old News!
Posted by: YogiBear on Aug 24, 2007 11:05 PM   
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In the news segments, online decoys lure men to a house to meet underaged sex partners -- where instead the men are videotaped and arrested...

...and then they blew up a pickup truck.

Oh, wait, wrong ethical lapse.

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Entrapment & Enticement To Commit Crime
Posted by: NoPCZone on Aug 25, 2007 12:06 AM   
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I have no tolerance or sympathy for sexual predators of any kind, but the whole idea of setting people up, on camera or not, shouldn't be legal if it is not already.

From the local cops busting the local 7-11/Circle K for selling cigarettes or beer to kids paid by the cops to go in, to this kind of made-for-TV circus--enough is enough. The police need to redirect their efforts and methods in many areas of law enforcement.

Do we really care who gets a lap dance at the local strip club, who has a jay in the glove-box or that an 18-year old headed for Iraq is drinking a Bud? I don't.

I'd rather our cops get their doughnut enlarged backsides out of the patrol cars and start some good old fashioned neighborhood patrolling. The burglary, assault and robbery rates always drop where the cops walk the beat in neighborhoods they know and are known in.

Fewer speeding tickets and more sidewalk patrolling will do more good than any other single thing. As to predators- the best cure is prevention. Many parents are simply not doing their job.

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It is the new witch hunt
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Aug 25, 2007 6:14 AM   
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Apparently there aren't enough real predators around, so Dateline had to entrap some. Lets face it a (very) few of the guys they nailed are actual threats and I am glad they got nailed.

But I have real problems with the entrapment (legal only because non law enforcement entities were involved) the law itself (talking dirty to people who willingly participate and entice - then setting up a meeting is sleazy - but a felony?), the fact that a large proportion of the men were very young themselves, the fact that they were actually talking to and meeting people of legal age.

I am ashamed to admit I watched several of the shows - until I was so sickened I could no longer watch. Truthfully, I wanted to see em bust some real bad guys. In a very few cases, they did. But did they really make anybody safer?
Or did they just pervert justice and pander to a group of psychos with an agenda?

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Sad fact is...
Posted by: cisc on Aug 25, 2007 7:52 AM   
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we are filling our prisons up with non-violent drug offenders. Sexual predators NEED to be put away with the kind of sentances we give non-violent drug offenders, they are shredding the fabric of society right under our noses. Since we are obviousely incapable of teaching 30, 40, 50 year old men and women that sexualization of children is wrong on any and ALL levels, perhaps we need to teach children starting in kindergarten what "wrong touch" is. From the comments here, sadly, Predator isn't initiating the right discussion-Hello? Barack? Mitt? Talk to any family court judge who still cares and thinks something needs to be done.

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Borderline Suicidal???
Posted by: ccluelessfl60 on Aug 25, 2007 10:54 AM   
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There is a simple solution to enticements on the internet. If you know that someone is trying to get you to do something unsavory, illegal or immoral ,block them or change your screen name. I had an incident in online chat room, a few years ago, that I felt was a kid , so I blocked messages from him. A simple thing to do. Do not plead enticement if you answer these children. Get out of that chat room and get off the chat immediately. Teach your children to do the same. Do not put real personal info in your profile. If a man commits suicide over this incident ,how borderline suicidal was he in the first place?

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It's Entrapment, Nothing Else
Posted by: Astroboy on Aug 25, 2007 11:36 AM   
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It's regoddamnediculous!

We live in a society of half-assed puritanical imbeciles.

If we, as a society, were not so fucking sexually obsessed we wouldn't have these types of exaggerated sexual expressions.

Is it wrong to have sex with a 16 year old prostitute? A girl who willingly offers her sexuality to to an adult for money. Or for that matter, simply for her own pleasure?

If a 17 year old boy engages in sex with his 17 year old girlfriend on August 25, has a birthday on August 26, is he immediately a perverted criminal because he had sex with her on August 27?

How is it that we as a society collectively decide on an arbitrary number in which a person becomes a sexual deviant? An arbitrary number when a person is no longer deemed corruptable, innocent or vulnerable?

This sting operation is nothing short of entrapment, pure and simple.

"Hi sweetie...I'm 15 and I want to be fucked by you, my 35 year old neighbor. I love older guys...they really turn me on, I don't know why. I've been fucking older guys for a couple years now, so I know what I like, so please, come over. I really, really want to fuck you. Pleasssse?!"

I don't have a problem with that scenario, but that's exactly the scenario this "Catch a Predator" bullshit creates.

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Another example of how far we've strayed from the founding principles
Posted by: herdless on Aug 25, 2007 6:47 PM   
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Law enforcement used to "Protect and Serve" the citizens. Now they behave like an occupying army in many neighborhoods. Instead of protecting us or responding to crimes being committed, they are out there posing as crack dealers, whores, promiscuous teens or beer thirsty minors to catch people who may or may not have been active criminals. Seems wrong to me. More like an out of control morality patrol. They leave keys in expensive cars in poor neighborhoods knowing damn well the desperation that accompanies poverty. If the goal was really to be proactive about crime, then why not address the poverty in the neighborhoods instead of preying on it? The courts should have put an end to sting ops long ago, but they went along with the ever expanding police state. And with the Supreme court we have now things will only get worse. They are the last line of defense for our freedom and they are mostly corrupt right wing hacks since the Bush appointments. Its truly frightening how powerless we are to stop this.

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Yup!
Posted by: Musk on Aug 25, 2007 11:00 PM   
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I watched this show a few times and felt slimier after each viewing, so I quit watching. Now I know why.

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This is as sleazy as it gets
Posted by: lamar on Aug 26, 2007 10:10 AM   
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The case of Conradt is heartbreaking. The guy broke no laws, didn't talk dirty to any minors, and still the police and NBC decided a SWAT team was necessary...for a man who refused to break the law. You do the math:

People protected by Dateline: 0
People killed: 1

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