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Colin Powell: Bush and Cheney Held Secret Meetings Behind Closed Doors

Posted by Guest Blogger at 1:00 PM on June 29, 2007.


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This post, written by Faiz Shakir, originally appeared on Think Progress

In the stellar Washington Post exposé on Dick Cheney, the public learned that key presidential aides were often intentionally kept out of the loop on important decisions by the Vice President. For example, President Bush's decision to try detainees in military commissions and strip them of their due process rights was not conveyed to Secretary of State Colin Powell:

"What the hell just happened?" Secretary of State Colin L. Powell demanded, a witness said, when CNN announced the order that evening, Nov. 13, 2001.
In addition, the Post reported that a Cheney-commissioned Justice Department memo that advocated the legal justification for torture was kept out of Powell's sight:
On June 8, 2004, national security adviser Condoleezza Rice and Secretary of State Colin L. Powell learned of the two-year-old torture memo for the first time from an article in The Washington Post.
Last night in an interview with Larry King, Powell criticized Cheney, saying, "[He] sometimes went directly to the president and the rest of us weren't aware of what advice he was giving." He also chastised the White House's manner of doing business. "It was not a system where we routinely exposed all points of view," he said. (The video is to your right)

In the interview, Powell reaffirmed his stated desire to close Guantanamo, arguing it is one of the reasons "we are losing around the world":

The reason I am feeling so strongly about Guantanamo is that while we're arguing these legal issues, we are getting killed in terms of our international reputation because of the place. And we are losing around the world. And what makes it even more difficult is some of the biggest thugs in the world and people that you want to press on moral issues and human rights issues hide behind Guantanamo and say don't lecture us when you have Guantanamo.
Transcript:
KING: Brent Scowcroft, the former national security adviser to Bush I, said about a year ago that this is a Dick Cheney I don't know. And they were once very close. You were very close, as I remember, in the early '90s.
C. POWELL: We were joined at hand and glove. Yes, I...
KING: Joined at the hip, some said, right?
What happened?
C. POWELL: Well, I will let Brent speak for himself. But Mr. Cheney has strong views on issues. And, as you would expect, he presses those strong views. We all had strong views and we pressed those views. Sometimes he went directly to the president and the rest of us weren't aware of -- of what advice he was giving, and sometimes I would do that, as well. It was not a system where we routinely exposed all points of view.
But the bottom line is that the president is the one who decides what advice he wishes to accept and act on and what advice he doesn't feel he should act on.

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Faiz Shakir is the Research Director at the Center for American Progress and serves as Editor of ThinkProgress.org and The Progress Report.


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Powell = Sychophant to White Power Elites.
Posted by: CatDad on Jun 29, 2007 1:43 PM   
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Behind the myth of America's most "respected" man is an ass-kissing suck-up who took advantage of his race to get into the white elite power structure....some dirty deeds had to be done along the way to reach that goal: trying to cover-up "My Lai"....going to the UN with a cartoon PowerPoint presentation as "smoking gun" proof of Saddam's WMDs...

Colin Powell missed his big chance: Resigning on the spot rather than allowing his credibility to be used to enable an illegal war...but then that's not what suck-ups do....

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Usually it is the VP that is "out of the loop". Pretty weird turn of events.
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Jun 29, 2007 2:11 PM   
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Is this is the finally evidence for the secret government that has existed for 30+ years, at least? Bush '41' was a part of this secret government during his years at the CIA and no doubt Cheney et al were a part of it decades prior to his current Vice-Presidency.

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A department in steady decline
Posted by: eddie torres on Jun 29, 2007 2:34 PM   
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The US State Department has been declining since the end of the Cold War, Colin Powell or no Colin Powell. More and more contact between the US and foreign governments is handled via the soldiers (regional US military commands) and the spooks (US intelligence agencies).

Why? Diplomacy is less lucrative than business. Since US interests are focused on autocratic or non-democratic parts of the world, soldiers and spooks are better positioned to deliver contacts or contracts for the things that foreign colonels and police generals need: weapons, strategic intelligence, garment factories, etc.

See Dana Priest's "The Mission: Waging War and Keeping Peace with America's Military".

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anyway....
Posted by: pacto on Jun 29, 2007 5:34 PM   
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I am so grateful mr`powell was in a high office,because we got a chance to see his Real self,with power. as usual,we saw a man who was willing to say or do anything that his lords asked him to do,including lying to the nation about the iraq arms threat.we were being duped into a war by him,but now he is trying to redeem hisself on larry king as if he cared about all of the innocent people that have lost their lives. shame on him

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VP should be a nonentity
Posted by: VAGreen on Jun 29, 2007 7:20 PM   
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Under the Constitution, the Vice President has only two jobs as long as the President is in good health: President of the Senate and counter of the votes in the Electoral College. After eight years of Cheney, it's time to restore the Vice Presidency to its original function!

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If Mr. Powell had resigned before this mess....
Posted by: eosrk on Jun 30, 2007 1:02 AM   
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...he would more likely win the 2008 prez nomination, with Obama or Hillary as vice prez.

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Bought and Paid For by US
Posted by: lc on Jul 1, 2007 6:37 AM   
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Enough of the good guy Powell crap. He is military and thinks like one. He is not one of US. He knew where Bush and Corp were coming from and resisted joining their party for the longest time. That was a negotiating ploy to get more back from Bush, the corporation. Powell’s son was made head of the Federal Communication Board of the FTC and gave away our radio, TV and cable rights to corporate interests. Clear Channel owns about half of all radio stations. There is no “local” content left for many of US. That is what happens when you put a dumb ass political appointee with no experience, just out of school and ripe for doing what they are told to do by ideologues that only care about the money; leaving the rest of US Shocked and Awed by idiot-ologues.
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Powell, the Bushs, the Bushies, the Rethugs and the SCOTUS
Posted by: bob t on Jul 1, 2007 7:35 AM   
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I have absolutely NO sympathy for Colin Powell. Once I admired him very much, now not a bit. He could have and should have been our first black president. His wife told him to stay out of politics as I recall, she was absolutely correct and prophetic in her insight. But did he listen, not.

Powell let himself be used. Bush and Cheney suck the very life blood out of everything they touch or even get near. These two used Powells good reputation to sell their agenda for the destruction of democracy in America. Just as Scalia and the SCOTUS are doing the very same thing.

Remember Scalia's speech in May of 2000 wherein he advocated and called for the end of the rule of law and the end of democracy in America. Scalia not only speeks for the right wing catholic SCOTUS but he speaks for the Vatican as well. He is a staunch catholic.

I am not their kind of catholic and abhor what they are doing to America. I know I have brought this up previously but America is at stake and I do not intend to stop. I will keep reminding readers that these kind of people are an extant and actually quite imminent threat to our democracy.

Moreover, these people(Scalia, the Vatican, Bush, the Bush family, Cheney and Rumsfeld et.al. are not just going to give up, see the evil of their ways and quietly walk away. They are a constant threat to democracy in America. Regarding the Vatican one has but to remember it's involvement and complicity with Hitler and the Nazi party before, during and after WWII.

Remember the Holocaust, I certainly do. The pain of that event is still with the Jewish people, as it should be with all of us, a never to be forgotten lesson of hate. Now we have another Holocaust in the ME, and the arabs are not going to forget that event either. Those events are burned into the psyches of the aforementioned peoples. The Holocaust of WWII has in a most direct way led to the Straussian neocons of today.

Powells reputation is now all but gone. He was stupid so maybe he would not have made a good president after all. We have at least a generation or two of stupidity, since Reagan, to GWB and have at least another generation or more which will remain thanks to the Republican party and it's ownership of the SCOTUS.

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