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Live at the Democrats' Debate: I See Black People

Posted by Guest Blogger at 6:27 AM on June 29, 2007.


Oliver Willis: I'm trying to figure out if this is the first debate to have the words "crack" and "cocaine" in them. I understand why, but....
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This post, written by Oliver Willis, originally appeared on Oliver Willis: Like Kryptonite To Stupid

-- Made it here just under the wire. Met a couple black conservatives (including LaShawn Barber). They do exist!

-- Other coverage is here.

-- Tom Joyner gets a big pop from the crowd. Apparently black media is powerful.

-- You should be aware that Tavis Smiley made some incorrect statements about Media Matters today.

-- The media room isn't in the actual room the debate is happening in, but the Blackburn Center where the media is assembled.

-- Tavis Smiley discusses the Covenant book, which I'm pretty sure most Americans have never heard of because it exists in one of those subcultures the MSM won't cover other than as a curiosity.

-- Deval Patrick (yay!) comes out to talk about Democratic superiority and warns about the dangers of compacency.

Question: Is Race Most Intractable Issue in US Today?

-- HRC talks about the fact that race is still important, hits the rollback of Brown decision and Katrina. The question was almost a soft pitch over the middle.

-- Biden talks about the importance of blocking Roberts, and importance of judges. Finally someone hits it. Now, frontrunners?

-- Richardson is getting existential on the issue. Talking about the abstraction of race versus more granular stuff like HRC and Biden did. I don't get it.

-- Edwards discusses the "Two Americas", makes sense and the first mid-speech clap. Easy one on voting integrity.

-- Obama nods to legacy of Howard and racial fight (Thurgood Marshall). Talks about how racial equality makes united America, but progress to go.

-- I wonder how the GOPers will answer this question - I mean, many of them think the racial issue is settled and not to be discussed. It will also be a lineup of lily white guys doing it.

-- Good line from Kucinich - the right tells us to "pull yourself up by the bootstraps... then they steal the boots"

-- Gravel goes off on the war on drugs. He'll destroy the war on drugs. Okay.

-- Dodd hits the issue from the education angle, and how its central to racial harmony. Would use tools as president to reverse the nutty SCOTUS decision from today.

-- Responses limited to one minute. And it seems like a hard limit because the shut up Biden and that's a miracle.

-- This is the problem with these debates: they all agree on things like early childhood education (the current question), just within degrees. No sparks. Someone needs to grab a steel chair.... Sen. Gravel?

Obama: When you've got a bill called no child left behind, you can't leave the money behind.

-- It would be awesome if they gave Mike Gravel an Archie Bunker chair to sit in, because then he would be at home as the resident crazy guy.

-- Hillary: It takes a village to raise a child. [AVAILABLE AT STORES NOW IN PAPERBACK!!!]

-- Obama discusses homophobia with black America. He's the only one I think who can be critical of black America's problems, and I'm glad he's doing it rather than mindless boosterism.

-- Casey Latrigue from CATO, who's right next to me, exemplifies the kind of silly thinking the right supports. Oh, the civil rights act passed we ought to pretend race is solved.

-- HRC gets first standing ovation pop for comments saying that if AIDS rate among white women was as bad as it is wiht black women.

-- Biden's line about Barack getting tested for AIDS is INSANE....... and Rev Al's facial response was GOLD. The media room was rolling at that whole exchange.

-- HRC: The economy was working a lot better in the 90s. [WHEN MY HUSBAND WAS PRESIDENT, HINT HINT NUDGE NUDGE]

-- I'm trying to figure out if this is the first debate to have the words "crack" and "cocaine" in them. I understand why, but....

-- Dems on Katrina: could this question possibly be any easier? Remotely? -- Outsourcing is bad. We need American jobs. Water is wet. Friction, damn it. Dodd, use that giant hair and hammer someone with it. -- If there's a winner so far it's HRC. But its kind of like Martyball - you hold the ball when you have the lead and don't make any sudden moves.

-- And that's it. Game over. I'll look around and see if there's anything interesting up here.

-- I'm a couple steps away from spin alley. I will never understand why any journalist would go to "spin alley" in search of a story. They might as well call it Spoonfed Drive.

-- Up close, Chris Dodd's hair is as pretty as you think it is.

-- I'm always amazed by guys like Bill Richardson -- because they look just like how they look on tv.

-- If there's ever a movie of Jesse Jackson Jr.'s life, Cuba Gooding will play him. For some reason I've now seen both of them in real life (I saw Cuba buying dog food when I lived in L.A.).

-- It should be noted for the record that Dennis Kucinich is the only candidate who came by the bloggers to press the flesh, along with his wife Elizabeth who positively towers over him.

-- To be honest I did have a moment where I went OMG IT'S CLARENCE PAGE!!!!

-- The handlers Mike Gravel had around him were just the kind of guys you would think would follow Mike Gravel around. A little... off.

-- I also saw David Axelrod (Obama's campaign manager), who was talking to Matthew Sheffield from Newsbusters, so if a phony story about Axelrod comes out I will have witnessed its beginnings

-- Oddly enough I talked religion with Lashawn Barber. She doesn't have fangs or anything, but she's totally wrong on everything. She likes Tancredo though, and I can get behind that!

-- Pam and Liza have images and video


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I guess the Democrats need to "shore up their base" after, almost, passing Immigration
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Jun 29, 2007 8:58 AM   
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amnesty. Their grand hopes to be able to ignore blacks and focus on the bigger, and growing, Hispanic population has, for the moment, been stopped as they realise that, for the time being, they need to get the 'black vote' solidly behind them. Then after an election, or two, they will quickly forget about the blacks and try to get that important constituency of illegal aliens and legal Hispanics voters. They are the future! Si Sey Puede!! Viva La Raza!! No Compre segundo!!

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issues not discussed:
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Jun 29, 2007 10:00 AM   
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Corruption in politics and government.

It's way more touchy than racial issues.

The US foreign military empire and its future.

Didn't expect them to touch that one, either.

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» Corruption is sooo 2006... Posted by: eddie torres
Thanks for the *debate* digest.
Posted by: Sojourner on Jun 29, 2007 10:22 AM   
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Instead, I watched the BBC via PBS shows on "The Power of Art: Van Gogh and Picasso." And I don't regret it; they are the best telling of those stories I have heard in a long life of listening.

And excuse me, but isn't the election 18 months away?

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The Dems...
Posted by: bob t on Jun 29, 2007 12:37 PM   
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...have forgotten their base, their human base, the people of color, the people of America. 'We the people' must hold thier feet to the fire and MAKE, MAKE, MAKE them remember that they ignore the voters, ALL of the voters at their own peril.
The Dem party is supposed to be the party of PEOPLE VALUES, family values.
The only thing worse than the dems is/are the Rethugs and their enablers: right wing religions, corporations and the neocons, all of whom support and endorse endless wars for world domination and ever more corporate profits.
The soul of america is wandering in the desert.
If 'we the people'; have to kick-ass to get it back then let us do exactly that and not stop until it is done.
The Democratic party can be turned around, the Republican party never will be, endless egregious greed for money and political power is the only thing that speaks to them and is their god(small g) above all else. And that goes for all their enablers, as well.

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If any one of these get in; UP GO TAXES...FOR EVERYONE
Posted by: kbest on Jun 30, 2007 4:40 AM   
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not just the rich, but everyone will pay way more in taxes if any Democrat wins the presidency. And don't forget how they pander to black people but in reality they actually want to keep them down, just to continue to garner their support. Think about that.

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