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GOP/Media complex: they lie without consequence

Posted by Guest Blogger at 2:30 PM on May 11, 2007.


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This post originally appeared on Mercury Rising.

The GOP/Media Complex, always ready to shove nonsense down our throats:

On the May 10 broadcast of Sean Hannity’s nationally syndicated radio show, radio hosts Jim Quinn and Rose Tennent repeated baseless allegations that they had reportedly made on their own XM Radio show that Democratic National Committee (DNC) chairman Howard Dean was behind Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius’ assertion that equipment shortages due to the war in Iraq had impaired the Kansas National Guard’s ability to respond quickly after a tornado leveled the town of Greensburg, Kansas. […]
The DNC has issued a cease-and-desist letter to XM Radio stating that the allegations are “false and defamatory [and] libelous and slanderous” and demanding that Quinn and Tennent broadcast “an express and specific retraction of these statements” on their show.
In fact, if Quinn had bothered to look at the facts instead of whatever talking points his Republican buddies were feeding him, he’d know that Sebelius’ concern about the depletion of the National Guard forces — a concern shared by many if not most of her fellow governors — is of long standing:
Moreover, Quinn’s claim that Dean and other national Democratic leaders instigated Sebelius’ statements about Guard resources being depleted because of the war in Iraq is undermined by Sebelius’ numerous past statements of concern about the impact on the Kansas Guard of the war in Iraq.

As Media Matters for America has documented, Sebelius has — on several occasions well before the Greensburg tornado — highlighted the need for additional National Guard funding and equipment because of deployments for the Iraq war:
  • On January 21, 2006, The Kansas City Star reported: “In a Dec. 30 [2005] letter to [then-] Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, Sebelius urged the return of Kansas National Guard equipment shipped to Iraq and Afghanistan. ‘The Guard was critical to responding to recent blizzards and floods in Kansas, yet its ability to respond to similar situations is being diminished by a lack of equipment,’ she wrote. She said Rumsfeld had not responded.”


  • On June 29, 2006, The Topeka Capital-Journal reported that Sebelius provided Army Secretary Francis J. Harvey with a list of equipment the state of Kansas lost to the Iraq war, noting, “Sebelius and other governors have said the loss of equipment leaves states vulnerable in emergencies or natural disasters.”


  • On September 5, 2006, the AP reported that “Kansas’ congressional delegation, Sebelius and governors from around the country have been lobbying the Pentagon for increased funding to replace National Guard equipment that has been left in Iraq or damaged beyond repair after repeated use in war.”


  • On February 27, 2007, Sebelius’ office issued a press release stating: “The reliance on National Guard troops and equipment in Iraq is leaving states vulnerable. … Sebelius expressed strong concern that sending the National Guard on repeated tours through Iraq compromises states’ ability to respond to natural disasters, terrorist acts, and other threats to public safety.”
Moreover, a May 9 New York Times article on Sebelius’ comments reported that Guard officials in Kansas and elsewhere echoed Sebelius’ concerns about the depletion of Guard resources:
In Kansas, the National Guard is operating with 40 percent to 50 percent of its vehicles and heavy machinery, local Guard officials said. Ordinarily, the Guard would have about 660 Humvees and more than 30 large trucks to traverse difficult terrain and transport heavy equipment. When the tornado struck, the Guard had about 350 Humvees and 15 large trucks, said Maj. Gen. Tod Bunting, the state’s adjutant general. The Guard would also usually have 170 medium-scale tactical vehicles used to transport people and supplies — but now it has fewer than 30, he said. On the other hand, General Bunting said, it had more cargo trucks than it needed.
The issue is not confined to Kansas.
In Ohio, the National Guard is short of night vision goggles and M-4 rifles, said a Guard spokesman, Dr. Mark Wayda. “If we had a tornado hit a small town, we would be fine,” Dr. Wayda said. “If we had a much larger event, that would become a problem. […]
Two recent reports have raised questions about Guard preparedness. An independent military assessment council, the Commission on the National Guard and Reserves, released a report in March that stated: “In particular, the equipment readiness of the Army National Guard is unacceptable and has reduced the capability of the United States to respond to current and additional major contingencies, foreign and domestic.”
Another report, released in January by the Government Accountability Office, concluded that the ongoing operations in Iraq and Afghanistan have “significantly decreased” the amount of equipment available for National Guard units not deployed overseas, while the same units face an increasing number of threats at home.
The GOP/Media Complex: Lying because they can.

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But they FELT like it was true...
Posted by: brasilaron on May 11, 2007 4:46 PM   
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...so they weren't lying. This is the assinine reasoning that i've heard from R trolls around here trying to assert why various public statements by gov't officials were not "technically" lies. Well if you say stuff in public that is verifiably false and/or reasonably ought to have been able to gain access to the truth, then you are "technically" lying. If i were to say "Gov. Schwarzenegger has killed 25 people in separate driving accidents while using his SUV", that is a lie, whether or not i FEEL or BELIEVE it to be true. See, my feelings and beliefs don't mean sh!t when it comes to the law. Unfortunately, our media whores have very seldom been held accountable for lying about public figures (more so from the right than the left, but yes, from both sides). It's almost as if the media treats politicians and their jobs as if they were tabloid material.

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And why do they get away with it???
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on May 11, 2007 5:16 PM   
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Because NONE of the mainstream media will call them on it. NONE of them. Just as they as well as other politicians will not call other talking heads or politicians on their manipulations, lies, and propaganda.

This is your "liberal" media.

Why do they do it? Because they don't want you to learn any of the rules of the game they ALL play. If they told you any of the tricks of the trade you might start thinking for yourself... and then where would they be???

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This Article Reminded Me of Something...
Posted by: grumble-bum on May 11, 2007 5:50 PM   
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...namely, that States have "rights"!

I had almost completely forgotten!

Well, even if such formal protests are ultimately just for show, at the end of the day, it's nice to see States starting to assert themselves. It all seems to fit into a growing pattern of States & Municipalities making clear their official opposition to the tragic "leadership" of the central government. In my mind, these sorts of gestures fall on the "good" side of the coin we call "State's Rights".

It's one thing to denigrate hundreds of thousands of Americans engaging in mass protest (be it through calling such actions "unpatriotic", or simply managing to ignore them). It's something altogether different to try & tar an entire State. Not impossible (hell, we "progressive" types do it all the time when talking about The South), but certainly harder.

Anyway, correct me if I'm wrong, but this sort of thing seems to be on the up-swing lately. I'm glad to see it.

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Typical liberal media
Posted by: eddie torres on May 11, 2007 10:34 PM   
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"In Ohio, the National Guard is short of night vision goggles and M-4 rifles, said a Guard spokesman, Dr. Mark Wayda. “If we had a tornado hit a small town, we would be fine,” Dr. Wayda said. “If we had a much larger event, that would become a problem. […]"

Why are liberals so gun-ignorant? Any good Republican knows that you don't use M-4 rifles against tornadoes.

You use prayer.

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» RE: Typical liberal media Posted by: blitzmesser
The latest con from the Con media is that it's Congress' fault the military
Posted by: doinaheckuvajob on May 12, 2007 1:23 AM   
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isn't getting funded sufficiently, after 6 years of Bush not providing proper armor, vehicles, suits, bullets, food, ad naseum and redeploying troops over and over.

But it must be true: Congress' fault. Because I feel, like Rove, like spreading that one.

Katrina: Nagin's fault. Kansas tornado cleanup: Sibellius' fault. It doesn't matter if it won't fly in Kansas, as long as the low life believers in the rest of the country don't give up their allegiance to the Rethug Party no matter what crimes it commits. Because the Rethug Party believes in individual responsibility for everyone else but themselves, you're on your own, and if you're being screwed, congratulations you've performed an act of patriotic duty. Now shut up and get screwed.

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Eisenhower's daughter on leaving the GOP
Posted by: Sojourner on May 12, 2007 12:56 PM   
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Why does anyone who points out the lies from Bush et. al. get tarred with the brush of "liberal"? Surely it doesn't take being a "liberal" to see that the Bush administration speaks with forked tongue.
While promising to cut government spending, Bush has inflated it. While promising to make the nation safe from terrorists, Bush has increased the danger. And on and on.

I was encourage, but only a little, by a recent article about how some leading GOP supporters are barely holding to their traditional party loyalty--including Ike's daughter.

I never thought the day would arrive when I would rather comport with sane conservatives rather than racist, fascist southern Democrats. That day has arrived. And hopes for a better future along with it.

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» Sane Conservatives? Posted by: Ellie1
More on lack of National Guard readiness
Posted by: lessbread on May 12, 2007 1:34 PM   
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General Says National Guard Is Weakened by Deployments in Iraq

May 12 (Bloomberg) -- The National Guard is overstretched by deployments in Iraq and can't properly respond to local emergencies in the U.S., said retired Major General Melvyn S. Montano, a former adjutant general of the New Mexico guard.

State National Guard warns it's stretched to the limit

(05-11) 04:00 PDT Sacramento -- As state forestry officials predict an unusually harsh fire season this summer, the California National Guard says equipment shortages could hinder the guard's response to a large-scale disaster.

Govs Worry About Depleted National Guard

TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - With repeated deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan leaving state National Guards without nearly half of their required equipment, some governors are loudly questioning whether they will be able to handle the next hurricane, wildfire or terrorist attack at home.

Guard equipment levels lowest since 9/11

WASHINGTON — The Pentagon, bearing the brunt of criticism for shortfalls in National Guard supplies after last week's devastating tornado in Kansas, acknowledged Wednesday that Army National Guard units had only 56% of their required equipment.

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And helpers
Posted by: mommy64 on May 13, 2007 8:12 AM   
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"Lie without consequence," and helpers.

Consider, for instance, the D.C. Madame scandal, involving politicians who betrayed the trust of Americans. 2001, on, unemployment, underemployment, while unimaginable billionaires thrive. UNchecked globalization, outsourcing jobs for which American students were trained, and accelerating aggressive warfare, perpetrated by Cheney/Rumsfeld, as illustrated in a Time Magazine essay following the Bush II initial election/Supreme Court appointment, warfare to increase unimaginable profits for the few, its cost blood/national treasury. Which puts them very much in league with Royal Saudis, though Rumsfeld/Cheney destroyed the country which nears Abdullah. Abdullah/Cheney dining, post BushII/Queen Elizabeth dining, mouth-to-mouth instructions for the benefit of its profiteers, UNchecked globalization, and accelerating aggressive warfare.

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Talk shows are just that shows
Posted by: gdonald on May 13, 2007 7:06 PM   
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Jim Quinn and Hannity are talk show hosts and talk shows are just that, shows. It's all about ratings and selling products. During the Clinton years these guys did a fair job of reporting the facts but since Bush has taken office, they do not hold to the same standards. The Liberal shows during this same period were guilty of doing what Quinn and Hannity do now.

I rarely listen to them because I can not stand the bias. It is no longer an option if you love this Republic to listen to the liberal talk shows or the conservative ones because they all spin.

Republicans and Democrats are both destroying liberty and leading this Republic right down the road to the destruction of it. It's just so sad to realize that the decieved masses still can't comprehend that it's both Democrats and Republicans that are guilty and these talk shows from both sides are part of the problem and not the solution.

Emotions are powerful and both sides play heavily on this power in order to gain control. Play to the emotions and people listen and form opinions based upon the emotion they experience. Stick to the facts and people get bored and turn you off, your ratings drop, and your off the air. So who is to blame?

It's time we the people wised up and started using our intelligence more and emotions less.

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emergency preparedness
Posted by: Dianka on May 14, 2007 12:18 PM   
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Do Americans in general (or just the propagandists) really have such a short memory? Concerns about shortages of equipment and trained personnel (not to mention money) needed to respond to emergencies have been ongoing for a number of years now. You DO remember Hurricane Katrina, right?!? Time and again, our government has utterly failed to meet its responsibilities to the people, precisely because (we are told) all available resources have been poured into the war. Our government has left this nation more vulnerable than at any time in modern history.

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FOX
Posted by: outlander55 on May 14, 2007 1:00 PM   
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The nation's number 1 propaganda station. Bringing you the lies of th Right Wing for 10 years. Stay tuned for Fox's 2008 election coverage.... See Barak back stabbed... See Hilary have to fend off lesbian allegations... Watch Sean stumble over any truths....

Get the picture?

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frank67
Posted by: frank67 on May 14, 2007 4:08 PM   
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Simple solution. Turn the fu**ing TV off. As Newton Minnow said back in the 60's: "Television is a vast wasteland." It most certainly is! In fact, it's worse now. I don't watch trash talkers. Why do you? TURN IT OFF!

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THE MSM
Posted by: Roverton on May 15, 2007 10:35 AM   
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... will wither if we allow it to. They have little regard for us, return the favor.

PROTECT THE INTERNET AT ALL COSTS! IT IS THE LAST WAY TO COMMUNICATE THE REAL TRUTH OVER VAST DISTANCES!!

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Someone send this to Tony Snow
Posted by: sinfony78 on May 15, 2007 1:51 PM   
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i am interested in what his response would be after reading this...last i heard, he was pretty much telling the governer, "well if u ask for it, u'd get it...u mentioned it passingly, but never asked"

i really dislike that liar

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