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Don Imus, hater

Posted by WIMN's Voices at 10:47 AM on April 9, 2007.


Jill Nelson: Word up, Don: being racist, sexist, and disrespectful towards women and others isn’t cool, hip, or a revolutionary act of politically incorrect subversion; it’s plain wrong.

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Guest post by Jill Nelson, Women In Media & News.

I'm embarrassed to admit that it took a few moments for my outrage to kick in when I first heard that nationally syndicated radio talk show host Don Imus had referred to the women on Rutgers basketball team - the astoundingly talented athletes who almost won the NCAA championship last week before being defeated by the no less amazing women athletes at Tennessee - as "some nappy headed hos."

This is no surprise, since Imus' insult was initially reported as simply the latest in the career of a man who, as the New York Times put it, "knows his way around an insult."

I'll say. He's built a career on offending women, people of color, Jews, Catholics and gay people. He's created a niche as the angry white man who's willing to call a spade a "nappy headed ho" or, in the case of PBS anchor Gwen Ifill, "a cleaning lady." The fact that he went after the 10 Rutgers basketball players, two of whom are white, all of whom are young, gifted scholar-athletes and champions, isn't even a new low.

The truth is that as a woman, a woman of color, and specifically an African American woman, the insults come ...

... so fast and furious that there's always the danger of becoming overwhelmed and de-sensitized.

Sad to say, but I'm used to hearing black and brown women being call "bitch" "ho" "skank" "skeazer" "gold digger" or some variation of all of the above in popular songs and music videos. "Norbit," Eddie Murphy's current movie, may be the most recent example of a black man putting on a dress and playing the fat, ignorant, loud, brown-skinned black woman as an object of ridicule and revulsion, you can bet it won't be the last. And check out "Flavor of Love," VH1's hit show in which women demean themselves in an effort to get Flava Flav - brought beneath low since his high as a member of the seriously political rap group Public Enemy - to choose them.

What these three have in common is that they demean black women, earn handsome profits for their corporate sponsors, and for the most part exist devoid of criticism.

Maybe that's because usually it's a black or brown man doing the name calling. Apparently, being verbally insulted and dogged by our black or brown "brothers" is okay, although I'm not exactly clear why. Byron Hurt's insightful documentary, Hip Hop: Beyond Beats and Rhymes, is a black man's critical look at the misogyny, homophobia, and violence that characterizes much of hip hop - and draws explicit connections between damaging hip hop content and the corporate music industry's take-over of mainstream hip hop.

I'm tired of racist, sexist haters like Don Imus hiding behind the notion that they're courageously being "politically incorrect" and striking a blow against evil "political correctness" by using hate speech. Word up, Don: being racist, sexist, and disrespectful towards women and others isn't cool, hip, or a revolutionary act of politically incorrect subversion, it's plain wrong. Period.

Ditto for those rappers, fans, producers, profiteers and others for whom tales of a hard knock life, drug dealing, and contempt for women seem too often to be the foundation upon which success is built.

In what's impossible not to view as the requisite next step in a cynical dance, a few days after his remarks Imus issued an "apology," but as my mother said in cases of grave offense, "Sorry isn't enough." Still, it's likely all those ten Rutgers ball players and the rest of us will get, since CBS Radio, who syndicates Imus' show, and MSNBC, which simulcasts the show on cable, make too much money off Don Imus' offensive behavior to demand more from him than lip service.

Don't hold your breath waiting for any criticism from the journalists, politicians and others with something to sell for whom a visit to Imus in the Morning translates into greater visibility.

The National Association of Black Journalists, Angela Burt Murray, editor-in-chief of Essence Magazine, and a growing chorus of people of color and women have called for Imus' dismissal. There's no word from recent Imus guests Tim Russert, John McCain, Joe Lieberman, or Barack Obama, no surprise since Russert and Imus share a parent company, and McCain and Lieberman can't risk losing face time in the corporate media by actually standing for a principal that might hurt the corporate pocketbook. As David Carr writes in the N.Y. Times (4/7/07):

"Mr. Imus is one of the most popular radio hosts in the country, with millions of daily listeners on more than 70 stations around the country. The television simulcast of his show on MSNBC is surging in the ratings-'Imus in the Morning,' which the network simulcasts with the New York radio station WFAN, gained 100,000 viewers in the last year, for an average daily total of 358,000, according to Nielsen estimates."
Which leaves Brother Obama to stand up for the sisters. I'm waiting.

Of course, one thing Imus has in common with many rappers - nappy headed bros? - and elected officials is understanding that there's money to be made from insult and invective. Not to mention little risk insulting women, and colored women at that.

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Jill Nelson blogs about women, race and the media for Women In Media & News's (www.wimnonline.org) group blog, WIMN's Voices (www.wimnonline.org/WIMNsVoicesBlog), where this essay originally appeared. Her work has been published in The New York Times, Essence, The Washington Post, The Nation, Ms., The Chicago Tribune and the Village Voice.


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I'm not clear what you're waiting for Obama to do
Posted by: xconservative on Apr 9, 2007 11:50 AM   
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While he could certainly denounce Imus' remarks, I'm not sure why he has any special duty to do so simply because he appeared on the show (even though he has been a target himself of racially insensitive remarks from Imus' staff). However, based on my understanding of the intent of the First Amendment, I don't think it would be appropriate for a U.S. Senator and candidate for President to be calling for the dismissal of a radio commentator, even a bigotted one like Imus. That would be like the Bush administration calling for Rosie O'Donnell to be fired from the View. There's a boundary there that should not be crossed by government officials.

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It's two DIFFERENT deploreable issues
Posted by: wwittman on Apr 9, 2007 12:03 PM   
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Yes, NO ONE should be calling women offensive names in popular media. Not Flavor Flav and not Don Imus.

But come on, Imus is what? 75 years old?
This guy isn't "hip", or part of a cultural phenomenon.
He's PANDERING.

He should be fired and that's the END of that.

The other, larger, issue is real, but separate.
Imus is not REALLY part of that iceberg.

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ms
Posted by: tfj2 on Apr 9, 2007 12:17 PM   
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my comment probably wont be liked but i dont think imus is racist. i like sharpton and jackson but this time theyre wrong. imus sometimes may be an asshole jerk but he and his wife run a ranch for kids-any kids-who have cancer. both were essential in passing an autism law for kids and helping build an iraq rehab center for ungody wounded troops-usa gov gives "lucky" troops bld 18. there are enough real racists to fight-plus a FUCKING WAR!! and on that front please see jahr damail's news and al jazeera news blogs. fight w imus after the REAL FUCKING WAR IS OVER!! tfj2

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» RE: ms Posted by: dogwhisperer
» RE: ms Posted by: hagwind
» RE: ms Posted by: Doubtom
Imus is not the problem.
Posted by: Bart Thesc on Apr 9, 2007 12:41 PM   
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There is a long tradition of on air personalities pushing the envelope of what they can get away with saying over the airwaves.

Over 25 years ago Charles Rocket was fired instantly from Saturday Night Live for saying a word we all know that starts with the letter "F". Now?

It is the standards and morals of the broadcasters and advertiser that decide what stays on the air and what gets kicked off. I don't like things that Imus has said but going after him won't solve the problem. If he gets booted someone else will take his place as long as that style of speech is making money.

If you want to put a stop to it kick his bosses in the pocketbook.

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ms
Posted by: tfj2 on Apr 9, 2007 1:02 PM   
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i just took a break from impeaching bush to come here. forefathers knew what they were doing w 1st amend-sunlight is great disinfectant. i like rosey, sharpton, jackson, dr king, rosa parks, mandel etc. obama has important issues-MAYBE THE FREAKING IRAQ-IRAN WAR! i know the importance of words-ex 16 words in mushm cld speech-but-focus-if those hating imus spent same time on war maybe it'd end-then there'd be time for skinheads, child predators, war criminals...and i'll be there too!! tfj2

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» RE: ms Posted by: cephalis
» RE: ms Posted by: Doubtom
Once Again, Black Women Don't Matter
Posted by: Kym525 on Apr 9, 2007 1:41 PM   
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I've read many of the comments here and on the main alternet site and pretty much they're all the same: "Imus disn't mean it", "Imus insults everybody", "Imus is just a shock jock", etc. Of course there's going to be excuses for him, just like there are excuses for all the rappers who make a big living spewing out misogyny--IT SELLS. Especially the denigration of black women--it's big business. Shirley Chisholm said it best, "black women have been a part of everyone else's agenda but their own." Don Imus calls the Rutgers Womens Basketball team a bubch of "nappy headed hos" and somewhere out there some wannabe rapper is wondering "why didn't I come up with that...it's funny."

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» You must not have read my comments Posted by: xconservative
A question for Imus
Posted by: edraven on Apr 10, 2007 5:54 AM   
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You said, "I'm a good man who said a bad thing."

I think you believe that, but who do you think laughs at your racist rants? Do you really want to base your career on that audience?

Ed Graham

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You left one group out
Posted by: Vik on Apr 10, 2007 5:54 AM   
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Why did you leave out overweight people, probably Don-Boy's favorite group to insult and demean. No doubt when he gets back from his two weeks' rehab, he will be going after fat people with more enthusiasm than ever, because he dare not insult n-----s anymore, and the overweight are fair game for everyone.

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Yes, he is a racist!
Posted by: Urstrly on Apr 10, 2007 5:56 AM   
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Have you ever noticed that when people get called out for racially offensive behavior, their first defense is "I am not a racist"? In Imus's case, he trotted out that his camp for kids takes kids of all races, to which my response is, Maybe we should get them out of there. No amount of largesse—whether adopting black babies or donating to charities or interracial dating—relieves anyone of the responsibility of respect for human dignity. Last night on The News Hour, Clarence Page, the black columnist, said almost apologetically that he had refused to appear again on Imus in the morning unless he refuted his racist remarks. Imus, it seems, plugged his book and sent the sales soaring, which is why people are reluctant to cut him off.

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Political incorrectness can be hazardous to our health
Posted by: hagwind on Apr 10, 2007 6:27 AM   
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Jill Nelson wrote:
"I'm tired of racist, sexist haters like Don Imus hiding behind the notion that they're courageously being 'politically incorrect' and striking a blow against evil 'political correctness' by using hate speech."

Hear, hear. I'm old enough to remember "politically incorrect" when it meant -- at least in feminist, progressive, and liberal circles -- that you were a free-thinking, unstodgy politico who didn't toe any party's line. Around the mid-1980s, the mainstream media, the Republicans, and the further-right wingers got hold of the phrase and things started to change. "Politically correct" came to mean "takes sexism, racism, and other forms of oppression seriously (and says so out loud)." But the older connotation -- that "politically correct" implied a certain rigidity, albeit usually in a good cause -- didn't go away. Plenty of people now seem to think that the only reason anyone could take racism and sexism (etc.) seriously is that they're rigidly, mindlessly, maybe fearfully conforming to some Big Brotherly party line. So naturally the way some take to show that they're free-thinking, unstodgy, and generally hip is to be outrageously racist and sexist. And many, many people preface their (usually very mild) objections to racism and sexism with "I hope you won't think I'm being politically correct, but . . ."

Saying and doing things mainly to piss people off is literally reactionary. It's the flip side of doing things to make people like you: either way, those other people are controlling your actions and you're not thinking for yourself. To be radical means to dig past the reactions and get to the roots. As far as I can tell, Don Imus's remark is at its root a racist, sexist slam at young women for excelling in sports. And because of his wide audience Imus is doing his bit to make the world a little safer for racist, sexist slams in general. That's not the world I'm working to bring into being.

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It's safe to insult women
Posted by: hansennancykay on Apr 10, 2007 6:57 AM   
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Seemingly the biggest outrage over Imus' comments are the racist aspects. He's been ranting about women forever, and that didn't generate much widespread outrage. As Yoko and John said, "Women are the niggers of the world." Same old, same old...

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cottontail
Posted by: cottontail on Apr 10, 2007 9:21 AM   
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That folks like Imus, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Coulter and others are huge media stars says a lot about the cultural cesspool in which we now live. And don't give me the crap that these are "good people." The people responsible for employing these low lifes are just as sick. It's pretty obvious that the moral tone in the country comes from the top down. Ugly to contemplate, isn't it?

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cephalis
Posted by: cephalis on Apr 10, 2007 9:42 AM   
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I think there is an issue here that is more basic than racism, sexism, etc. Imus' comments were gratuitously personal, unkind and hurtful to other human beings. That makes him unacceptable as an entertainer in my book.

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» RE: cephalis - Good point Posted by: UnEasyOne
» RE: cephalis Posted by: jimidee
Anntelope
Posted by: Anntelope on Apr 10, 2007 10:01 AM   
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How come it's okay for someone like Tyra Banks
to have fifty cent throw a white model into the pool
(could've cracked her skull) and NOBODY says
anything? Even if there was no real danger and it was all scripted, it was a horrible message to send to women period.
There was no uproar though and nobody protested but me I think as I wrote to Tyra's show (and got no reply). Meanwhile, had a white man thrown a black girl in the pool we'd still be hearing about it.

Anyway, getting back to Imus - I don't call what he did racial because nappy headed simply means frizzy hair and black people do sometimes have frizzy hair and so what? I think it's beautiful and have paid good money to get my own hair frizzed a few times. The "ho's" part is what I object to and that was an insult to ALL women and not just blacks so again, it wasn't racist. People are forgetting one thing. It's a satire show and not to be taken so seriously.

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» RE: Anntelope Posted by: xconservative
Gold digger?
Posted by: DeeOhGee on Apr 10, 2007 11:11 AM   
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Actually, most of the gold diggers I've met were white gals.

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GANGOFONE
Posted by: GANGOFONE on Apr 10, 2007 12:38 PM   
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Imus and his ilk will continue to spew their hate and bigotry as long as there is an audience. African Americans and women's groups are protesting but what is needed to remove this type of pollution is for his target audience - primarily white males ages 18 through 38 - to start calling for a halt to this viciousness. They need to realize and to speak out because these comments don't just harm blacks and women but all human beings. And to this demographic, which includes my four sons, I say a real man speaks truth to power and defends those who don't have as powerful a voice.

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» RE: GANGOFONE Posted by: hansennancykay
» I LOVE IMUS! Posted by: Sandra4231
Inside Comedy
Posted by: Reader58 on Apr 10, 2007 2:19 PM   
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Eddie Murphy and his brother wrote the movie Norbert. They released it during black history month. They said it was because February has a record for generating the most revenue for movies. So where was the outrage? Probably in line buying tickets. I think Eddie Murphy should have to endure a sex change and get all the fat sucked out of people implanted into his body. Then he can try and make us laugh like he used to do.
As far as Don Imus is concerned...get real people. Anyone who can sleep at night after making a living berating other people deserves no respect. Should we expect more lofty intellectual type comments from a man like this? Would anyone tune in if the Dalai Lama - someone who truly knows suffering and injustice firsthand - had a morning radio show talking to people about cultivating compassion for their fellow human? I'd buy whatever was advertised on THAT show...no matter what...even if I didn't need it. Just to make sure the Lama could have air time. Problem is ... he'd most likely decline the opportunity. Makes me happy to have my Don't Tell Sophie and Eels cds to listen to on my morning commute.

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Pale by comparison...
Posted by: jimidee on Apr 10, 2007 5:39 PM   
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Hey, I don't like Imus either, ever since I watched him roast Bill Clinton. But let's get real here.

We all know that if Imus' "Nappy headed hos" comment had been made by Chris Rock or any other black comic that there would have been a few chuckles and that would have been it. The real issue is that Imus doesn't belong to the club (the one where you have to have at least a little black heritage) that allows the use of such hip-hop language. There is a strong double standard here.

It is yet another example of what happens when a white guy tries to act black (he was SOOOO not jellin')...it usually turns out bad (for the white guy, anyway). He and the boys in his hood (MSNBC) were rappin' on the air like the bro's do, and tried to make a funny. They were imitating behavior that they had seen black folks do, but with much different results.

So, now he gets to smoke a turd on that bench in hell, along with Kramer.

I have heard my 34 year old racially mixed daughter and her friends talk like that all the time, with their derogatory comments about darker skinned blacks with their "nappy hair". I asked them just how much black blood that one had to have to belong to their insult "club" and she indicated it with her thumb pointing to the first joint of her little finger. I asked her who established this test, and she was clueless. I explained that back in slavery days that whites had imposed that standard upon blacks who were trying to "pass" as whites, as a means of racial discrimination. I asked her why blacks were so ready to incorporate that racist standard into their own sub-culture...again she was clueless. I know I spend a lot of time teaching her and my grandkids how not to be racist towards other black folks.

Their comments make Imus' pale by comparison...

jimidan

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Is this a free country?
Posted by: Jersey Devil on Apr 10, 2007 6:17 PM   
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With the uproar over Don Imus' comments, I have heard nothing about blacks calling whites honkey, cracker, etc. Or Rev. Sharpton's tirades over Tawana Brawly - you know the phony rape victim. Nobody is mentioning the near race riots by Blacks outside Duke University over another phony rape vistim. If people don't like what Don is saying on his program then don't listen. If enough people don't listen WFAN will cancel Don's radio program. This politically correct crap is all one way and with a tight focus on white behavior. Let's turn the glass around and make sure that our Black Brothers are showing the same respect that is demanded from Whites. This is just another soap box media opprotunity taking our attention away from the human meat grinder called Iraq.

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» RE: Is this a free country? Posted by: xconservative
» RE: Is this a free country? Posted by: xconservative
FREE SPEECH
Posted by: TherWay@comcast.net on Apr 11, 2007 8:42 AM   
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WE ARE ALL ABOUT FREE SPEECH AS A COUNTRY, WHERE HAS IT GONE.

VICTIMS BECAUSE OF NAME CALLING

I DON'T THINK SO. AS LONG AS YOU THINK YOU ARE VICTIMS

YOU WILL BE.

THOSE WHO WANT FREEDOM (AFRICAN AMERICANS) GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO PREVENT IT!

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» RE: FREE SPEECH Posted by: hansennancykay
I LOVE IMUS
Posted by: Sandra4231 on Apr 14, 2007 6:22 PM   
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Obviously many of you didn't watch Imus. I'm a stay at home Mom and was fortunate enough to be able to watch him for years. His show was unique because it was a blend of humor and discussions about important topics, musical guests, book promotions and comedians. What I enjoyed most was getting to know so many people behind the scenes sharing their views on things. David Gregory, Andrea Mitchel, Tim Russert, Chris Matthews, Bryan Williams, Lieberman, John Kerry, Larry King and many many others were regular callers. I'm a huge Conservative and this was one of the few forums where I could actually hear viewpoints from the other side and see where they were coming from. I really got to like several of the news people because their personalities would come through on the show. Imus was so rude and insulting to people and they seemed to love the sparring. He would laugh when people would tell him he looked like Rose Kennedy in a hat or the time when an email was read that asked him when he had died and why hadn't anyone removed his rotting carcass from his thrown. Imus has a huge heart and has spent his last several decades supporting great causes. He's raised millions for our soldiers, SIDS, cancer etc. By the way...he refers to his wife as a green ho. Many people don't get that kind of humor but then turn the channel. I'm so sick of this politically correct world of today. I think the coach, team, Jackson and Sharpton have blown this thing way out of proportion. I think these girls are obviously intelligent and successful and have a great future ahead of them. Why would some ignorant and tacky comment from a radio guy have such a devastating, life altering, tramatic effect on them? They're making themselves out to be weak victims. I think the real story should be why the media is covering up the ACLU guy having child porn on his computer...Anyway Imus is a good man who has helped many regardless of color or sex. If any of you knew him like I do you'd see this thing in a much different context. You'd realize that 35 years of charitable works and a life devoted to helping kids with cancer outweighs some episodes of tacky and inappropriate humor.

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Anne N. Walters
Posted by: anne0567 on May 3, 2007 7:34 AM   
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As a woman, I just wanted to state that since Don Imus decided to sue CBS for firing him, I am beyond competely offended. I was simply reading stories about this and he has totally offended women first, then black people. The reason for this is no matter what race the woman is, he thinks he need to comment on each woman's appearance like that is the end-all to their achievements. I also think that his lawsuit makes my spine cringe at the abominable idea that he thinks he can get away with this kind of talk.

When he was fired, I was under the impression that social hate commentary towards women would be changed. How could he spew those words out of his mouth and think he can get away with it? If he can, we might as well cover faces with veils and move to a middle eastern country. It abhors me to think that his wife is proudly standing by her man (Tammy Wynette-style) while all of this is going on. Not only that, the only reason Imus decided to sue CBS is money. Not that they discreetly didn't give him a high settlement check when he was fired, but he thinks he needs more money because of his own mistake. Don Imus is the epitome of pure sexist, racist, unadulterated evil.

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