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Mean liberals said bad things about Dick Cheney!

Posted by Joshua Holland at 10:14 AM on March 1, 2007.


Joshua Holland: And the Washington Post's famous media "critic" cries about it right along with the wing-nuts.
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Earlier this week, Eric Boehlert called out the Washington Post -- and specifically WaPo media "critic" Howard Kurtz - for having a (unrequited) love affair with right-wing bloggers in general, and Michelle Malkin in particular. This is the same Post that has whined incessantly about how "uncivil" bloggers on the left are.

Of course, Malkin and her followers would slit Howard Kurtz' throat as soon as look at him.

Well, today, Kurtz follows up by happily amplifying Malkin's latest bullshit non-scandal ...

This is really sick.

I know we're living in a polarized time. I know there are people who absolutely detest George Bush and Dick Cheney. I know they like to vent their spleen online, sometimes in vulgar terms, and hey, that's life in a democracy.

But some of the comments posted after a suicide bomber blew himself up at Afghanistan's Bagram Air Force Base, while Cheney was there--killing as many as 23 people--are nothing short of vile.

The comments appeared on the Huffington Post, which, to its credit, took them down. But some were preserved by Michelle Malkin, and I reproduce them here:

"You can't kill pure evil. Like an exorcism you have to drive a stake through it."

"If at first you don't succeed . . . "

"Better luck next time!"

"Dr. Evil escapes again . . . damn."

Says Malkin: "Whatever your partisan leanings, an attack planned on the Vice President of the United States is an attack on America. Some of our fellow Americans, however, can't put their sneering hatred of the White House aside."

Malkin also says that Mexico has a scret plot to annex the Southwest, that the internment of the Japanese during World War II was a great thing and that the media - including Kurtz' own paper - are in league with the terrorists and are actively trying to destroy America. Why does Howard Kurtz quote her like she's a serious voice and not a completely unhinged lunatic? I don't know, Ask him.

Says me: Don't people realize that openly rooting for the death of an American official says way more about them than their intended target?

Arianna Huffington says the right wing is making entirely too much of this:

"Let me be absolutely clear: No one at HuffPost is defending these comments -- they are unacceptable and were treated as such by being removed. They were not made by me, by our editors, or by our bloggers. They were made by anonymous visitors to the site -- visitors that make up a very, very small unrepresentative portion of our readers.

"Trying to balance the freedom and openness of the Internet with the desire to be responsible and avoid these kinds of outrageous comments can sometimes be challenging. But the fact remains: only a fraction of Huffington Post readers comment on news stories, and only a tiny fraction of those responded to the Cheney story in such an offensive manner . . .

"This tactic of digging through open comment threads to find outrageous comments that can then be cited as evidence of 'the angry left' has become a favorite of the swiftboat set."

I would agree that it's absurd to view these assassination fantasies as anything other than the rantings of the fringe, and that they shouldn't be used to tar an entire ideology. All I'm saying is that it's really sad that some loons feel this way, and that the Internet culture, however briefly, gives them a megaphone.

What an idiot. Seriously, this cherry-picking of comments on open threads is just ridiculous.

First of all, those who write for a blog have a responsibility to maintain some standards of discourse, but those who comment are ordinary people venting spleen. Would Kurtz consider someone who made a Dick Cheney joke in a bar necessarily a loon? Of course not - I imagine there were hundreds of thousands of bad Dick Cheney jokes uttered by hundreds of thousands of perfectly normal people following the assassination attempt. Hell, Jay Leno joked that the stock market fell after news of the attack because investors were scared that George Bush might end up running the country.

But more to the point, how does Kurtz know that the commenters in question didn't like Dick Cheney? I mean, given that the right has adopted the tactic of combing through comments to indict a liberal blog or blogger, and as long as there's a pretty good likelihood that some moron in the commercial media like Howard Kurtz will run with it - regardless if there's a there there (HuffPo did take down the offensive posts, so why is this a story at all?), then it's reasonable to believe that it's just as likely that some right-wingers who absolutely adore Dick Cheney wrote those comments to smear the left. I have no evidence that that's the case, but come on -- by buying into this crap like the lapdogs they are, Kurtz and his ilk make "seeding" a thread with "unacceptable" views a politically profitable exercise.

Lastly, of course. there's the double-standard. Lefty bloggers say 'shit' and are condemned as wild-eyed lunatics while righty bloggers spin outrageous fantasies of killing their ideological opponents, assassinating lawmakers, hanging reporters, etc. and get a pass. It's getting really tiring.

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Joshua Holland is a staff writer at Alternet and a regular contributor to The Gadflyer.


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Take a deep breath before posting
Posted by: Knowmad on Mar 1, 2007 10:43 AM   
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C'mon Josh, or whoever has to approve the pictures and comments accompanying Alternet articles. Your portrayal of the, admittedly pathetic and sadly misguided, Malkin is beneath you. not to say unwise. An unflattering cherry-picked photo with a derogatory, nonsensical comment would be bad journalism in high-school. And, needless to say, it plays right into their hands. Think!

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» RE: Take a deep breath before posting Posted by: Joshua Holland
But seriously...
Posted by: trampoline on Mar 1, 2007 11:28 AM   
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Look, I'm all for Cheney-focused vulgarity. I've come up with some good, cringe-worthy things to say to ol' Cap'n Dick himself.

That said... they have a point. And you know you've gone way off the deep end, if something you say gives wingnut Malkin the moral high-ground.

Those comments on the Huffington post went overboard, and they definitely do not (should not) reflect the mindset of America's progressives.

Yes, Malkin and the like made way too much of them, and ABSOLUTELY, she has spent much of her public career trucking in incendiary comments. And CERTAINLY, it was VP Cheney saying "go fuck yourself" on-camera, not a left wing blogger... but it was this slip, by some overzealous bloggers on the left, that opened that door for her.

All we Lefties have to do is continue to stay high and dry while the GOP and the bat-shit insane Michelle Malkins of the world spiral into marginalized absurdity.

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» No ... Posted by: Joshua Holland
hmm
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Mar 1, 2007 12:00 PM   
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"Says me: Don't people realize that openly rooting for the death of an American official says way more about them than their intended target? "

Yeah... that the one wishing Cheney ill knows who is actually responsible for all of the killing that has gone on and has perpetuated it for years.

As always, though... Malkin and others only care about visciousness and name calling... when it benefits THEM. As soon as it doesn't, all bets are off.

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» RE: hmm Posted by: mirimac
» RE: hmm Posted by: Ian MacLeod
The time to be worried...
Posted by: justaguy on Mar 1, 2007 12:30 PM   
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....about what the right wing papers are saying about what the ultraright wing bloggers are saying about anyone they perceive to be not on their side is long past.

Who cares what Malkin or the Moonies think about the "left"'s civility or otherwise?

By writing about this you're complicit in their framing and their trivialisation of the massive clusterfuck they're creating.

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wapo
Posted by: particle on Mar 1, 2007 7:40 PM   
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Maybe Malkin's being fish bowled. It is one way corporations neutralize irritants: treat them like specimens on display in a Disney-like setting...

Anyway, it will be interesting see if anyone gets arrested if some of those Cheney jokes start showing up on t-shirts.

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malkin
Posted by: cwilsondrum on Mar 1, 2007 7:44 PM   
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cheney belongs in jail. that being said malkin and all the rest can go fuck themselves I for one would like to once see one of these pussies in real life speak the bullshit they pass off as any kind of patriotism they would get their asses kicked fast and good

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CritterLover
Posted by: CritterLover on Mar 2, 2007 8:49 AM   
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Must admit agree with Malkin on most of his/her comments.
Not just Cheney...but pretty much the entire Bush cabinet belongs in jail. And why haven't they been impeached yet? If the rest of the "normal" middle-class had perpetrated the lies and crimes these people have, we'd be locked up and the key thrown away long ago. I'm already sick of hearing how an attempt was made on Cheney's life---according to who? After all it was a "SECRET" meeting. Does it occur to anyone with all that's happening there it was just a coincidence that he was in the area? Just more BS so that Bush can CLAIM the reason we're in Iraq is to promote Democracy, and protect the U.S. And by the way....who says it's our place to decide the entire world should live by a democracy?! Could our country get any more arrogant? I probably shouldn't even ask that...I'm sure the answer is YES. A close friend of mine has a saying--- for those of us that work damn hard to earn a paycheck and care for our families to vote republican, is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.

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CritterLover
Posted by: CritterLover on Mar 2, 2007 9:23 AM   
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Just wondering..........
Why is it okay that Bush promotes the card deck hoping people will kill who he doesn't like? But, everybody gets all up in arms when the same thing is said about someone like Cheney? What? Just because he's an AMERICAN makes him more important? You can't keep shoveling crap on everybody else and not expect them to retaliate.

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thucy
Posted by: Thucy on Mar 2, 2007 9:29 AM   
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Comments expressing joy or celebration at the murder or near murder of anyone are reprehensible, but the point of this article is well taken -- you can find that sort of ghoulishness at both ends of the political spectrum, and anyone without a clear ideological bias would say so.

If you want to sample some typical right wing bile, go to YouTube and scroll down most any thread in the "News and Politics" section. You'll find self identified Republicans/conservatives/"patriots" routinely calling for the murder of "liberal traitors", ranting about "shifty eyed Christ killers" (that is, Jews), expressing the hope that all gays will die of AIDS, etc. etc. etc. Perhaps the anonymity of the internet encourages this stuff, but it's hardly news.

In any event, you'd think the Post would want to focus more attention on the possibility that Bush/Cheney have been using taxpayer money to fund terrorist groups in Lebanon. I'm wondering how long it'll take for this story by Hersch to get the massive media attention it deserves, or even a fraction of the frenzy it would provoke if this was a Clinton or Gore administration, allegedly playing cozy with car bombers and the like, five years after 9-11. If true, this should dwarf the political impact of Foley and the ports deal. Time will tell...

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I know someone who was thrown off of AOL
Posted by: Ellie1 on Mar 2, 2007 9:57 AM   
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for anti Bush comments. This goddman country is so screwed up-and we are not heading for a fascist regime, we HAVE one. This country makes me sick.

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CritterLover
Posted by: CritterLover on Mar 2, 2007 10:20 AM   
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It makes me sad the U.S. has the reputation we now do...that we're all bullies and greedy-that's only a small group of people at the top (mostly). I hear so many hate comments because France wouldn't support Bush in Iraq. I say HOORAY for them to stand-up and say NO we think you're going about this wrong, and we're not going to add to it. If other countries would have bowed out (and probably didn't due to threats by Bush/Cheney/Rove/Rumsfeld, etc) we probably wouldn't be in this mess with Iraq.

Frankly, there are places in the world I'd still like to travel to and visit....but, at this rate, I'm not sure I want to step foot in a foreign country.

I remember a friend of mine who was in Viet Nam. He told me about some sort of elite outfit---like CIA assassins or something, who were so disgusted with how corrupt the U.S. Government had become, that they were considering coming back and "taking out" the top 600 U.S. leaders. I remember thinking GEEZ LOUISE! Isn't there a better of changing our government?! Now I'm starting to wonder if maybe they weren't right. I know many people are frustrated with the electoral vote (which should be obsolete now), and most of us know that some of the voting machines programming has been tampered with. We should be able to have "proof" of how we voted.

Frankly, I couldn't give a damn if somebody called themselves a Communist---as long as they got in there and did the job we elected them to do, and meted out justice and compassion even-handedly. I don't know how we're going to change the direction we've gone, but I know something has to happen soon before chaos really breaks out.

Sad, disappointed, scared, embarrassed.....

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Just wonderin'
Posted by: Lefty0010 on Mar 2, 2007 10:23 AM   
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I'm reading through the post and comments, and I agree Joshua that the comments could have easily been posted by some of these individuals. I then come across Critterlovers comment: >>>I'm already sick of hearing how an attempt was made on Cheney's life---according to who? After all it was a "SECRET" meeting. Does it occur to anyone with all that's happening there it was just a coincidence that he was in the area? Just more BS so that Bush can CLAIM the reason we're in Iraq is to promote Democracy, and protect the U.S.

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» Just wonderin' II Posted by: Lefty0010
Right and wrong
Posted by: Julian on Mar 2, 2007 6:33 PM   
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On May 27 1942 the Czech Resistance mortally wounded SS Obergruppenführer Reinhard Heydrich. Heydrich deserved to die. The Nuremberg trials could not be opened for another three years but what they did at Nuremberg to other key officials of the Third Reich for the vile crime of military aggression was as richly merited as was the execution of Heydrich when lawful means were blocked by armed force. Anyone who closed ranks in thought, word or deed with Heydrich because he was a high German official was himself or herself a criminal, unfit for decent society.

Cheney is guilty of the crime of military aggression. To close ranks with him because he is a high American official is little different from closing ranks with Heydrich all those years ago. Considering the appalling effects of aggression against a country at peace, and the threat that acceptance of it or of its authors poses to the entire world, closing ranks with them on national or any other ground is contemptible. Rather like those who recoiled in horror at Australian Prime Minister Gough Whitlam accurately describing US President Richard Nixon as a crook.

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» RE: Right and wrong Posted by: josephq
We Took The Bait Again
Posted by: msluderitz on Mar 3, 2007 7:18 AM   
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Once again it seems we let the right frame the issue again. Once Malkin singled out comments on HuffPost to be demonized, the response was to apologize for the remarks and take them off the blog site.

First of all, it smacks of censorship to me. More importantly, I don't find the comments to be all that offensive. Joshua is correct in that such comments were routinely made all across America. And it is more likely that the remarks were "tongue in cheek", not the pure evil desire to see Cheney snuffed out.

Unfortunately the left took the bait on this one.

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