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Neocons: "Invade Iran. Then everyone will see how smart we are."

Posted by Evan Derkacz at 8:28 AM on February 8, 2007.


The White House's "decision" is made...
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This is just getting more pathetic by the hour.

When Grover Norquist, the wacko who compared raising the taxes of the wealthy to the morality behind the Holocaust, has abandoned the fraudulent ship of state isn't it time for it to look into the mirror (or, as I spouted recently in a fit of anger, "walk into the mirror")?

Vanity Fair, via ThinkProgress notes that Norquist is alarmed by the Iran talk:

"Everything the advocates of war said would happen hasn’t happened," says the president of Americans for Tax Reform, Grover Norquist, an influential conservative who backed the Iraq invasion. "And all the things the critics said would happen have happened. [The president’s neoconservative advisers] are effectively saying, 'Invade Iran. Then everyone will see how smart we are.' But after you’ve lost x number of times at the roulette wheel, do you double-down?"
Now, whether Norquist is just worried that a third disastrous war will require a tax increase or whether he's concerned about the nation is up for grabs, but...

TP goes on to note that plans are being drawn up for a strike against Iran (something I suspect is always going on), but they also mention that "Former CIA officer Philip Giraldi said, 'I’ve heard from sources at the Pentagon that their impression is that the White House has made a decision that war is going to happen.'"


The White House may have made its decision but, as Terry Gross pointed out to Grover Norquist in the same interview mentioned above, this nation is run by "we, the people." Just because the White House is set doesn't mean it's a done deal...

Joshua adds ...

Don't forget, Ev, that Norquist is actually in league with the Islamofascists, tied together by a grand plot to turn the White House into a hot-bed of radical Wahabbism. That, according to even nuttier wingnuts (hard to believe, I know) like Frank Gaffney and Michelle Malkin.

Evan responds ...

Riiiiiiiiiiight. My fault for even sugGESTing that the man who held Wednesday meetings that always featured a White House aide would ever matter...

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Evan Derkacz is an AlterNet editor. He writes and edits PEEK, the blog of blogs.


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Posted by: cuja1 on Feb 8, 2007 8:42 AM   
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As far as i'm concerned, the invasions of Iraq and now Iran, is the same kind of tatics used by the dictator of Germany in the 30's, for control.

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» Me too marta Posted by: ~Fiona~
» RE: Me too marta Posted by: staringatthesun
» RE: Me too marta Posted by: blitzmesser
» RE: Me too marta Posted by: staringatthesun
» RE: Me too marta Posted by: blitzmesser
Run by whom?
Posted by: Knowmad on Feb 8, 2007 8:49 AM   
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"Terry Gross pointed out to Grover Norquist in the same interview mentioned above, this nation is run by "we, the people." Just because the White House is set doesn't mean it's a done deal..."

Can you Evan - if you agree with the above - or anyone else please enlighten me as to exactly how your current cesspool of an administration allows you "the people" to run the nation, and how anything they want to do is NOT a done deal. Thanks.

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I keep repeating this, but our only chance with these nuts is.....
Posted by: Prophit on Feb 8, 2007 9:09 AM   
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for ALL OF US to pass on to those who fight these wars the following:

WHAT IF YOU DECLARED A WAR AND NO ONE SHOWED UP? I am telling you that is where WE THE PEOPLE take back our power. We have to quit wringing our hands and start showing them..... withhold taxes April 15,... tell your children to refuse to go to Iraq and Iran.... Pull all funds from national bank accounts and move them into small, local community banks, pull all investments for IRA'S AND KEOGHS from national banks and brokerage houses and put them into local IRA's as interest bearing accounts before you lose them anyway.

If you need a home loan go to private investors who are now lending. Stay away and do not support the banks who are financing both sides of these wars. Boycott all major oil companies. Use local oil companies. Boycott all major corporations who make and sell war: boycott of all their products even if they have nothing to do with war. Example, Chrysler, boycott their civilian cars. They are the ones who made the humvee without armour.

Boycott anything by Kuwait or Saudi's or companies that do business with them. There is more than oil that is involved here. ITS TIME TO SHOW WE THE PEOPLE DO HAVE A SAY AND WE CAN PROVE IT. If we do so in the millions it will work.

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Frank
Posted by: frank67 on Feb 8, 2007 9:19 AM   
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Hmmm. Something about "rats deserting a sinking ship" comes to mind. Another thing this dumbest administration might think about....when you think airpower is going to solve a problem in Iran, let me remind you that more bombs were dropped on North Viet-nam than were dropped on Germany in WWII. And the result of all those bombs was...zilch! If it ain't a nuclear bomb, it don't work!!!!

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» Nuclear Bombs Don't Work Posted by: Russ Wellen
NPR, your tax dollars at work
Posted by: rwa on Feb 8, 2007 9:33 AM   
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> Terry Gross pointed out to Grover Norquist in the same interview mentioned above, this nation is run by "we, the people."

Propaganda bought with tax dollars.

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We're on Our Own. . .
Posted by: Russ Wellen on Feb 8, 2007 9:38 AM   
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. . . with this Iran thing.

Democrats may introduce legislation in Congress that a strike on Iran must be authorized by Congress.

But who are we kidding?

The first Iranian response to our provocative presence in the Persian Gulf and there's hardly a member of Congress who wouldn't authorize a retaliatory attack.

Americans, meanwhile, are distracted by Iraq and incapable of handling two hot spots at once. Even if they were paying attention, the death of tens of thousands of Iranians is no skin off their backs anyway.

They might sit up and listen, though, if an attack on Iran were "framed" as an attack on their job security. The recession-depression that could ensue when the oil markets are disrupted could very well result in the loss of even more American jobs than are lost to outsourcing.

P.S. Norquist on the outs with the hard right? Thanks are due AlterNet for having the stomach to monitor those life forms.

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I beg to differ.
Posted by: monkeywrench on Feb 8, 2007 9:53 AM   
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"The White House may have made its decision but, as Terry Gross pointed out to Grover Norquist in the same interview mentioned above, this nation is run by "we, the people." Just because the White House is set doesn't mean it's a done deal..."

Oh, yeah, why not?

This nation is run by 'we, the people'."

Since when?!

Well. . .NOT since 2000. . .

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Poll: Forty percent of American voters believe the Israel Lobby is a key factor in going to war
Posted by: rwa on Feb 8, 2007 9:54 AM   
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A new poll commissioned by the Council for the National Interest Foundation shows that a significant number of Americans are wary of the power of the Israel lobby, and believe it is behind the invasion of Iraq and the current belligerent tone of the White House and Congress toward Iran.

The poll, which was carried out by Zogby International, reveals that 39% of the American public "agree" or "somewhat agree" that "the work of the Israel lobby on Congress and the Bush administration has been a key factor for going to war in Iraq and now confronting Iran." However, a similar number, 40%, "strongly disagreed" or "somewhat disagreed" with this position. Some 20% of the public, or more than one in five, were not sure.

The poll suggests that the espionage charges against two employees of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and the publicity given to a new study of the power of the Israel lobby by two mainstream academic professors has had an affect on people's awareness of the lobby.

link

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» Maybe, Maybe Not Posted by: lessbread
» Good Work Posted by: rwa
2007
Posted by: larry278 on Feb 8, 2007 2:23 PM   
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Is it too late to cancel or abort 2007?

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» RE: 2007 Posted by: bettyn
I googled this group-they are Holocaust deniers
Posted by: Ellie1 on Feb 8, 2007 3:33 PM   
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That about says it all for me, Antisemitic Republican Holocaust deniers. How proud you must be-such good and intelligent company you keep. The anti-semites are alive and well.

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Gaining Revenge
Posted by: AlienSlave on Feb 9, 2007 4:58 PM   
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The Battle of Agincourt marked the end of the age of chivalry and announced the obsolescence of its stylized methods of warfare. It also heralded the beginning of a period in which the sovereign would look for military support from the gentry of his realm rather than traditionally from the aristocracy. This gave rise to the resulting political implication that henceforth war would have to be fought for national purpose or religious conviction rather than for settling private feuds among royalties.

Your elected leaders with fight to the bitter end and to the every last drop of your blood, then call for peace..........

AlienSlave

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