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Can Giuliani Be the Armageddon Candidate?

Posted by Sarah Posner at 8:30 AM on February 6, 2007.


Republican presidential candidates are eager to cater to Christian Zionists.
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Can this man be president?

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Glenn Greenwald today challenges the conventional wisdom that Rudy Giuliani's presidential candidacy is a sinker with conservative evangelicals. Greenwald's right about a couple of things: first, that foreign policy, particularly Middle East policy, will be more important to conservative evangelicals in '08 than gay marriage and abortion, and second, that Giuliani's messy personal life, including his divorces and adultery, won't alone doom his candidacy with these voters because . . . ah, well, you know, we all fall. (Even John Hagee, the country's leading Christian Zionist, is divorced.)

Unless Giuliani unequivocally flip-flops (like Mitt Romney has, including vociferous denunciations of the citizens he once served as governor of Massachusetts) from his stance on gay rights, his skeletons won't be his divorces and adultery, but his political views, as evidenced by this or this or this. For these voters, anyone can be a convert, but they have to prove it. Romney's getting there. Giuliani has a long way to go. His favorable remarks about the Supreme Court's most reactionary members -- and his promises to promote more of the same -- won't be enough.

Hagee's enormous success in building Christians United for Israel over the past year has sent a forceful signal that Armageddon very well could be be '08's evangelical GOTV tool. All the pieces are in place: Hagee's remarkably effective grassroots political organizing, his ability to garner tete-a-tetes with the White House, John McCain's trip to San Antonio to breakfast with him, the increasing chaos in Iraq and the Palestinian territories, the deja vu-ish saber rattling over Iran. And, after all, there aren't many states left [PDF] in which to advance gay marriage bans in order to turn out more likely Republican voters.

But politically conservative evangelical voters, ones who are motivated by people like Hagee or Rod Parsley or other theologically and politically conservative preachers, wouldn't see someone like Giuliani as a righteous defender of the the worldview they think they are fighting for in this showdown between "good" and "evil" (i.e., Christianity and Islam). Many of these voters see themselves as soldiers in a war to defend their version of Christianity -- one which unequivocally condemns homosexuality, abortion, adultery and secular government institutions. Being a hawk -- even on Iran -- won't alone cut it. The right candidate for the Christian Zionists will have to be a hawk and a perceived defender of the faith. Probably the bigger question for the Republican presidential candidates, though, is how cozying up with the Christian Zionists will play with the rest of Americans -- the majority of whom have had it with the war.

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Sarah Posner is an investigative journalist whose work has appeared on Alternet, The American Prospect, The Gadflyer, and in other publications.


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Running on a Death Wish Platform
Posted by: Russ Wellen on Feb 6, 2007 9:13 AM   
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"Armageddon very well could be be '08's evangelical GOTV tool"

Okay, I can see Giuliani as an avenging angel. After all, according to a Time magazine article when he was US attorney for the high-profile Southern Dictrict of New York, he resembled a "quattrocento fresco of an obscure saint."

One wonders why he doesn't play up his record as a prosecutor, especially his mob-busting success, which he can use as an example of what he'll do to the likes of Al Qaeda. It's far less unsavory than his mayoralty, mostly noted for presiding over the killings of innocent civilians.

He needs more than the memory of tramping around the smoking ruins of 9/11. People have long ago forgotten the image of Bush with the bullhorn at 9/11.

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Christo
Posted by: christee on Feb 6, 2007 9:35 AM   
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Would someone please explain to me how in the world Rudy Gulianni can ever, in the slightest, be considered a cannidate, for ANYTHING, until he has answered questions about 9/11 and what really happened on that terrible day? He has avoided the questions about how he knew the buildings were going to come down and also about Building 47 and where he was and so on.

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» RE: Christo Posted by: VZEQICVA
The 9-11 stuff is only the beginning.
Posted by: Ian MacLeod on Feb 6, 2007 12:26 PM   
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Guiliani has shown himself to be reactionary and cruel. Given his choice, he wouldn't wait for trials of "traitors"; based on rumor alone he'd have them executed. Or does no one else recall the American Taliban early on in this War on People Who Have Oil? Isn't there enough of this as it is?

Ian

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A Ghouliani campaign...
Posted by: lessbread on Feb 6, 2007 1:32 PM   
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... could be a golden opportunity for 9/11-Truth activists.

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DOESN'T DO WELL IN THE MARRIAGE DEPARTMENT
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Feb 6, 2007 7:43 PM   
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3 mariages? Couldn't understand why the girlfriend couldn't stay in the home where he lived with his wife and kids. So a NYC judge explained it to him. St. Patrick's Cathedral with the girlfriend while he was still married? What happened to the Republican Moral Compass? The rules don't apply to him. That's a red flag. He's just another arrogant SOB. I'll pass. Thanks, ANNA

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