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Why Mitt Romney's Mormonism ain't like Kennedy's Catholicism

Posted by Jan Frel at 3:21 PM on January 7, 2007.


Jan Frel: While Kennedy was able to promise the public a divided church and state, but Romney intends to be a darling of the religious right, which wants a theocracy. And explaining himself won't help his cause.

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I hadn't heard of Damon Linker until I came across this book, "Theocons" (excerpted on AlterNet), his insider account of how a bunch of Catholic theologans have blended with Bush's authoritarian project . He was a former editor of the magazine, First Things, and he's a damn good writer and lucid expert on the intersection of Christian theology and American government. His cover story on the problems posed by GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney's Mormonism for The New Republic is an excellent read. I recommend it very much. Problem is of course that you need a subscription... so I've excerpted some bits of it for you to peruse.

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Within days of stepping down as governor of Massachusetts on January 4, Mitt Romney is expected to announce his candidacy for president. Shortly after that, Romney will almost certainly need to deliver a major speech about his Mormon faith--a speech in the mold of John F. Kennedy's 1960 address to the Baptist ministers of Houston, Texas, in which the candidate attempted to reassure voters that they had no reason to fear his Catholicism. Yet Romney's task will be much more complicated. Whereas Kennedy set voters' minds at ease by declaring in unambiguous terms that he considered the separation of church and state to be "absolute," Romney intends to run for president as the candidate of the religious right, which believes in blurring the distinction between politics and religion.

Romney thus needs to convince voters that they have nothing to fear from his Mormonism while simultaneously placing that faith at the core of his identity and his quest for the White House. This is a task that may very well prove impossible. Romney's strategy relies on the assumption that public suspicion of his Mormonism--a recent poll showed that 43 percent of Americans would never vote for a Mormon--is rooted in ignorance and that this suspicion will therefore diminish as voters learn more about his faith. It is far more likely, however, that as citizens educate themselves about the political implications of Mormon theology, concerns about the possibility of a Mormon president will actually increase. And these apprehensions will be extremely difficult to dispel--because they will be thoroughly justified.The religious right has been enormously successful at convincing journalists not to raise questions about the political implications of a candidate's religious beliefs. Analyzing the dangers of generic "religion" to the nation's political life is considered perfectly acceptable--indeed, it has become a cottage industry in recent years--but exploring the complicated interactions between politics and the theological outlooks of specific religious traditions supposedly smacks of bigotry.

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The Mormon "Articles of Faith" teach that, when Christ returns, he will reign "personally upon the earth" for 1,000 years, and LDS interpretations of a passage in Isaiah have led some to conclude that this rule will be directed from two locations--one in Jerusalem and the other in "Zion" (the United States). This belief has caused Mormons to view U.S. politics as a stage on which the ultimate divine drama is likely to play itself out, with a Mormon in the leading role. [Mormon church founder] Joseph Smith certainly thought so, which at least partially explains why he spent the final months of his life -- he was gunned down by a mob in Carthage, Illinois, on June 27, 1844-- running for president of the United States.

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In the case of Mitt Romney, citizens have every reason to seek clarification about the character of his Mormonism. Does he believe, for example, that we are living through the "latter days" of human history, just prior to the second coming of Christ? And does he think that, when the Lord returns, he will rule over the world from the territory of the United States? Does Romney believe that the president of the Mormon Church is a genuine prophet of God? If so, how would he respond to a command from this prophet on matters of public policy? And, if his faith would require him to follow this hypothetical command, would it not be accurate to say that, under a President Romney, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints would truly be in charge of the country--with its leadership having final say on matters of right and wrong?One suspects that, if pressed in this way, Romney would seek to assure voters that he would never follow such a command if it conflicted in any way with his oath of office. How such a statement would square with his professed Mormon faith is far from clear, however. Under modern conditions, some religions--Protestantism, post-Vatican II Catholicism, Judaism--have spawned liberal traditions that treat faith primarily as a repository of moral wisdom instead of as a source of absolute truth. Other religions, by contrast, have tended to require believers to accept everything or nothing at all. Mormonism (like Islam, another faith founded in prophecy) is one of the latter, binary religions. When a Mormon stops accepting the binding truth of prophetic revelation, he effectively becomes a lapsed Mormon. At the beginning of his political career, that description seemed to fit Romney pretty well. In his failed bid to unseat Senator Edward Kennedy in 1994, Romney responded to questions about his faith by stating that he was not running "to be a spokesman for my church." In the same campaign, Romney also asserted that states should be free to decide whether to allow same-sex marriage, and he demonized Republican "extremists" for seeking to "force their beliefs on others." These remarks would be unusual for any devout Mormon, but they are especially noteworthy because Romney made them at a time when the LDS Church was actively working to ensure that Hawaii would not become the first state in the nation to--in the words of a church statement issued in February 1994--"give legal authorization or other official approval or support to marriages between persons of the same gender." Even on abortion--the issue that, more than any other, unites conservative Catholics, Protestants, and Mormons--Romney portrayed himself as a moderate as recently as 2002, claiming in his run for Massachusetts governor that he "would protect the current pro-choice status quo" in the state because "women should be free to choose based on their own beliefs, not the government's."But the Mitt Romney currently contemplating a run for the White House is a very different candidate.

Seeking to serve as the standard-bearer for the religious right, he now staunchly opposes abortion and supports a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. He claims, in short, to be a man of deep piety who wishes to increase the role of conservative religion in the nation's public life. Far from soft-pedaling his faith, as he once did, he now embraces it as central to his political strategy.A cynic would say that Romney has changed his positions in order to win the Republican nomination and that, in his heart, he's most likely a lukewarm believer in the doctrines of his church. In that case, non-Mormons may have nothing to fear from a Romney candidacy (though religious conservatives may have grounds for concern about how well he will represent their cause). But there is another possibility: Romney may have undergone an authentic religious rebirth during the last few years--a rebirth that has led him to embrace the fundamental tenets of his church more fully than ever before in his political career.

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Posted by: jbonham76 on Jan 7, 2007 5:00 PM   
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I think you would have a more legitimate article if you had presented the other side.

TNR has allowed a rebuttal to this by noted Scholar Richard Bushman a noted scholar at Cornel who is LDS.

Since you have failed to provide the link (or the fact), I will...

http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=w070101&s=bushman010307


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» RE: One sided Posted by: poppop_schell
Tell me....
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Jan 7, 2007 5:30 PM   
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.. how you can respect "your man mitt" after he claimed a budget surpluss.. but then left us holding the bag on a huge deficit???

Romney is just a mormon version of W.orthless. Huge debt, big government in people's lives and bedrooms, no care for the poor (see Boston's crumbling and increasingly expensive mass transit system for one), and how much different is Romney refusing to build dams and floodwalls in areas of the state that everyone knows flood easily (because it has happened many many times) only to see a huge flood in those exact areas last year than Bush's idiotic statements about NO after Katrina.. no one dreamed the levies would fail.. no one dreamed those areas could flood.

Goodbye, Mitt the Shit. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

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Weirdo people should not be elected
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Jan 7, 2007 7:10 PM   
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whether its an archaic religion that worships a man in Rome who likes to play dress up who says don't eat fish on Friday but looks the other way at pedaephile actions taking place amongst their ranks.

Or a religion that didn't recognise blacks as people until the late 70s and says you need to wear 'sacred' underwear and has a tradition of under-age multiple wives.

Or some 'religion' that says women should wear a sheet covering their whole body and shouldn't be allowed to drive, work, vote, and have their female anatomy circumcised. Oh yeah that you also gain 72 virgins if you blow up some innocent people and yourself. Don't vote for any of these FREAKS!!

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Josh and Albrech...
Posted by: RemingtonSteele on Jan 8, 2007 1:59 AM   
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Joshua,

You can't have it both ways. Balancing a 2 billion dollar deficit was an amazing accomplishment when Mitt came into office. Even with the clamor of higher fees, Mitt helped Mass. understand supply and demand in government services verses a socialist debtor or tax hike policy. MA's new Governor, Deval, is a whiner that wants it both ways by dissing $300 million in spending cuts, then whines about a self created, normal economic cycle deficit that Romney would've balanced easily. Even the Senate president won't let Deval raise taxes because they're comfortable with how Romney left things. Surplus or deficit, who cares! If the budget is balanced, then the economy dictates the rest.

Albrech,

Weirdo people = politicians all the time. Yes, in the Mormon church, blacks weren't allowed to have the priesthood until the 70's, but they could still be members of the church. And that little fact did not keep Gladys Knight from recently joining the Mormon church. Who cares about underwear except for the Board of Directors at Hanes? And you're just blatently wrong about traditions of under-age multiple wives since the Mormon church kicks you out of the church if you practiced such a tradition even more than 100 years ago or do so today. Ironically, Mitt Romney is the only GOP candidate that has had one wife, McCain and Guilliani both have members in the First Wives Club ;-)

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» RE: Josh and Albrech... Posted by: JoshuaLudd
» RE: Josh and Albrech... Posted by: poppop_schell
» Wait, religious bigotry? Posted by: JoshuaLudd
would you trust this man with your children?
Posted by: aislinnluv on Jan 8, 2007 4:06 AM   
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whichever case is true of romney, that he has had a religious conversion or is playing the cynical political game of saying what he thinks we want to hear, he is unworthy of your trust.

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» WALKING THE WALK Posted by: poppop_schell
Utah is a theocracy
Posted by: xenacat on Jan 8, 2007 4:52 AM   
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and has been since its inception. In terms of tolerating multiple teenage virgin wives, one has only to look at the Century city debacle near the Arizona/Utah border to see the covert Mormon approval/support of pural wives. Mit has a very cynical outlook and one based in the cultural beliefs of the Mormons that thier way of life is superior and should be enforced upon all. This is not a religion based on love and tolerance; it is based on obedience to a highly regimented and brutally patriarchal social structure. We have all ready had more than enough trouble with the garden variety right wing religious radicals without embracing militant Mormonism . The Mormons are highly organized, contemptous of and not afraid to outright lie to unbelievers - i.e anyone outside of Mormonism. Mit's religous convictions should be scrutinized very carefully as should anyone whose religious beliefs insist the seperation of Church and state be eliminated in favor of more "moral" laws. Mormonism is not mainstream and should not be treated as such. It is far more dangerous to American religious freedom than anything we have ever encountered before in our history.

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» RE: Utah is a theocracy Posted by: poppop_schell
I may be out of date, but religion has no part in politics.
Posted by: Ellie1 on Jan 8, 2007 5:47 AM   
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I don't care what religion it is. These born again f----s and other zealots are as dangerous as Al Kaida or the Nazis. I am ashamed of all the stupid Americans who use their religion as the basis for voting for anyone. I would rather have an agnostic for president at this point. Religion has done so much to harm this country and this world.

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» ARE mormons hypocrites? Posted by: poppop_schell
» RE: ARE mormons hypocrites? Posted by: 1984NOW!!!
» RE: ARE mormons hypocrites? Posted by: poppop_schell
re racist
Posted by: CountessKarma on Jan 8, 2007 7:00 AM   
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A) Since when does a celebrity make a religion NON-racist? Does Britney Spears becoming a Kabbalist or Tom Cruise a Scientologist cause ME to want to be either? No. Just because an ex-celeb joins (or is of) a particular religion, it doesn't mean that religion is "great."

Look at those books the door-to-to Mormons leave - who's always working, while smiling, and invariably thinking "Why's yes, Massa, I's is mighty glad you owns me"? The Blacks. Who is shown as the affluent, the ones everyone welcomes to their home? The Whites.

I wouldn't vote for a Mormon, because I fear my civil and human rights would be stripped.

And, like I said, Gladys Knight is like a gay Republican - a hypocrite.

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» RE: re racist Posted by: jbonham76
NOT AN HONEST ARTICLE.
Posted by: poppop_schell on Jan 8, 2007 12:54 PM   
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Wrtire said:

"Joseph Smith certainly thought so, which at least partially explains why he spent the final months of his life -- he was gunned down by a mob in Carthage, Illinois, on June 27, 1844-- running for president of the United States."

popop corrects with facts:

JOSEPH SMITH RAN AS A THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE ONLY AFTER ALL CANDIDATES OF THE WHIGS AND DEMOCRATS REFUSED TO PROTECT THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF THE MORMON PEOPLE. MORMONS WERE DRIVEN OUT OF THE STATE OF MISSOURI WHEN THE GOVERNOR ISSUED AN EXTERMINATION ORDER ALLOWING ANYONE TO KILL A MORMON ON SIGHT AND NOT BE PROSECUTED. THE MORMONS RAN LITERALLY FOR THEIR LIVES LEAVING ALMOST ALL THEY POSSESSESD. FOR YEARS, JOSEPH SMITH ATTEMPTED TO GET REDRESS FROM MISSOURI GOVT. AND FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. THAT WAS THE MAJOR REASON WHY JS RAN FOR PRESIDENT EVEN THOUGH HIS PLATFORM WOULD BE CONSIDERED VERY PROGRESSIVE FOR THE 1840s. HE ADVOCATED AMONG OTHER IDEAS THE ABOLITION OF SLAVERY THROUGH REINBUSRING SLAVEHOLDERS AND OBTAINING THE MONEY TO DO SO BY SELLING PUBLIC LANDS... NO NEW TAXES.
JS was a religious leader/prophet to his people.which kept him plenty busy. Politics was only in self defense!!!

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The Beak
Posted by: Annette on Jan 8, 2007 3:59 PM   
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It is a tragedy that believers who benefit from the tolerance of our democratic society are the same ones who want to create a dangerous link between church and state in America. Often believers promoting this idea are people whose families were forced to emigrate to this country to escape religious intolerance elsewhere. This is a well-documented part of our national history Mr. Romney should read and think on carefully.

No one cares if Mitt Romney is a Mormon. I would not be one myself and I have opinions that disagree strongly with Mormonism but he is welcome to believe as he will choose. But if being a Mormon means undermining the tenets of democracy by linking church and state, Mr. Romney will be seen by me and many others as unfit to lead.

He will be a burden to us all in his ignorance... the frightening truth revealed in the TNR article. We should take it very seriously that he is a very different kind of candidate who wants to be president.

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» RE: The Beak Posted by: poppop_schell
» RE: The Beak Posted by: whyoung
My neighbor's blind and crippled cat stands a better chance...
Posted by: Steven Wanzell on Jan 9, 2007 3:02 AM   
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of being our next president, after the rightwing bloodbath the child Bush has caused. Finally, freedom may yet ring.

This is the first instance in my 46 yrs., that I'm rejoicing for America's legendary bigotry.

wanzellarts.com.ar

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Mormon values
Posted by: dkm on Jan 9, 2007 9:43 AM   
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I spent a year going through the Mormon "induction process" that involves Sunday School and then is followed by a more intense indoctrination process. When the bishop at the ward I lived in asked me to enter the second process, I told him that I had problems with any system that required me to unquestionally follow the demands of someone else at the expense of my own logic and values. He told me that this was a typical Protestant response and that I was no longer welcome. It gives you a window into Mormonism thought and values and certainly fits well with the fundamentalist and orthodox Catholic viewpoint that "do and believe what you are told and shut up and don't ask questions." This is the attitude that has us in the mess we are in (Iraq, deficit, environmentally, etc.)

Also, in regards to the statement that polygamy has not been a Mormon tradition for a 100 years, recently I read several articles about the various fringe groups in Utah that still practice polygamy. The interviews with the Mormon authorities agreed that as long as the women involved were not underage, they didn't care what happened. So much for being kicked out of the church for polygamy.

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» RE: Mormon values Posted by: poppop_schell
You all missed the point
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Jan 9, 2007 9:12 PM   
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Americans preach tolerance of the beliefs of others, but hidden in that notion is an unspoken assumption: No one group will attempt to impose his or her beleif systems on others, either by force or through the law.

The religious right, the Catholic Church and organizations such as the Mormon Church do not accept this. They want tolerance of their ideas that they then want to force down our throats. This gives us licence to trash their ideas.

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» RE: You all missed the point Posted by: poppop_schell
» Puleeez! Posted by: Steven Wanzell
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» RE: Puleeez! Posted by: whyoung
» RE: Puleeez! Posted by: poppop_schell
Find out the truth for yourself
Posted by: mittreport on Jan 20, 2007 12:58 PM   
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Find out the truth for yourself:

http://www.mittreport.com

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