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Israelis jumping ship on Iraq?

Posted by Evan Derkacz at 8:56 AM on January 5, 2007.


Safer WITH Saddam...

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In addition to high-level cabinet members and the head of Israel's Shin Bet, Israelis who didn't get it before are coming to realize that the Iraq War was disastrous for them:

Even some of those who suffered directly from Saddam’s brutality told the Forward that in retrospect, Israel was better off with him than without.

Baghdad-born Avraham Eini was a teenager when his father was arrested and tortured by Saddam’s security agents in the 1970s. "He later died of his wounds," said 54-year-old Eini, who had escaped with his family and settled in Ramat Gan. Two decades later, in 1991, Iraqi Scud missiles fell 200 yards from his house.

Eini said he felt a sense of "revenge and relief" when Saddam was executed last week. Yet, he said, "Israel would be safer today if Saddam stayed in power."

Most interesting is this bit which turns the preposterous, but oft-repeated, BS that Israel somehow "got" America to go to war with Iraq. The U.S. is big and bad... but not when it comes to the bigger badder Jews scenario... (emphasis mine):

Saddam’s death, [Deputy Defense Minister Ephraim] Sneh warned, could lead to "a reinforcement of Iranian influence in Iraq." He said that Iraq had turned into a "volcano of terror" following the war, with "destructive energies" that could spill over into Jordan and Israel.

Such misgivings, though rarely aired publicly for fear of offending Washington, reach high into Israel’s security establishment. Yuval Diskin, director of the Shin Bet security service, told a group of students in a military preparatory program last May that Israel might come to regret its support for the American-led invasion in March 2003.

There's also this interesting nugget. Although Saddam did reportedly send money to the families of suicide bombers in Palestine...

A few years into the Iran-Iraq war, however, Saddam moderated his anti-Israel stance. Some observers believe he merely hoped to curry favor with Washington. Others say that even so, it might have led to a thaw. Jews in Iraq were now protected by a special unit and had a phone number to call if harassed. "Nobody could touch us," said Emad Levy, who lived in Iraq at the time.

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Evan Derkacz is an AlterNet editor. He writes and edits PEEK, the blog of blogs.


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Why did the Jews flee Iraq? Wake Up From Your Slumber
Posted by: rwa on Jan 5, 2007 9:12 AM   
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Part of Zionist mythology is that the creation of Israel is necessary to protect Jews from rampant anti-Semitism. This mythology had to be manufactured where it didn't exist, mainly to convince Jews themselves of the need to move to - and populate - the newly formed Zionist state.

One such place is Iraq, where Jews have lived and prospered for centuries and had little incentive to leave, because it had been so good to their community. This started to change following the British occupation after the destruction of the Ottoman Empire.

Zionist propaganda has it that the Jews of Iraq fled Iraqi persecution in the middle of the 20th century, and that they are still under threat from the Iraqi nemesis, which threatened Israel under Saddam, the modern Haman.

But, the truth is that hostility towards Jews in Iraq was manufactured by Zionist Jews and blamed on Iraqis.

Wilbur Crane Eveland was a former CIA agent, who worked for US intelligence in Iraq from 1950 to 1952. He was in the country when bombs exploded in Jewish holidays and celebrations. He wrote in his book, Ropes of Sand: America's Failure in the Middle East:

"Just after I arrived in Baghdad, an Israeli citizen had been recognized in the city's largest department store: his interrogation led to the discovery of fifteen arms caches brought into Iraq by an underground Zionist movement.

In attempts to portray the Iraqis as anti-American and to terrorize the Jews, the Zionists planted bombs in the United States Information Service Library and in synagogues. Soon leaflets began to appear urging Jews to flee to Israel ...

Although the Iraqi police later provided our embassy with evidence to show that the synagogue and library bombings, as well as the anti-Jewish and anti-American leaflet campaigns, had been the work of an underground Zionist organization, most of the world believed reports that Arab terrorism had motivated the flight of the Iraqi Jews whom the Zionists had 'rescued' really just in order to increase Israel's Jewish population."


Of course, there is Naeim Giladi's work The Jews of Iraq, an important piece of testimony on recent Jewish history in Iraq and Zionist Israel, which also documents Zionist false flag terror perpetrated against innocent Jews to push them to flee. Also found here. Excerpts:

About 125,000 Jews left Iraq for Israel in the late 1940s and into 1952, most because they had been lied to and put into a panic by what I came to learn were Zionist bombs.


Sir Francis Humphreys, Britain's Ambassador in Baghdad, noted that, while before WW I Iraqi Jews had enjoyed a more favorable position than any other minority in the country, since then "Zionism has sown dissension between Jews and Arabs, and a bitterness has grown up between the two peoples which did not previously exist."


Today there is no doubt in my mind that the anti-Jewish riots of 1941 were orchestrated by the British for geopolitical ends.


Zionist propagandists still maintain that the bombs in Iraq were set off by anti-Jewish Iraqis who wanted Jews out of their country. The terrible truth is that the grenades that killed and maimed Iraqi Jews and damaged their property were thrown by Zionist Jews.


Giladi delves into the evidence he uncovered in his investigations, and reading the whole article is well worth it.

This history is important, as it serves as a context to view the more recent troubles of Iraq. The Zionist-dominated media has been defaming Iraq and its leadership for decades, yet there is a positive history of Zionists killing their own to do just that. Also, Jews have lived in peace for centuries in Iraq, as did the Shias and Sunnis.

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I'm going to leave your comment up
Posted by: PEEK on Jan 5, 2007 10:44 AM   
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Because I want people to see what lies beneath many extremist views of this conflict.

In essence, you claim that anti-semitism is a Jewish fabrication in service of the creation of Israel.

The sheer ridiculousness of this statement ought to serve as a flashing red light to those who agree with you.

Israel and Jews are people like any other. Your consistent claims on this blog, rwa, that the Jews are manipulating this country, fabricating attacks, lending credibility to Israeli complicity in 9/11 go a long way to undermining your views.

As a Jew I'm appalled by many of the things my fellow Jews believe in. I'm appalled by many of the things Israel does.

But your insistence on setting Jews and Israel aside leads me to the most uncharitable conclusions.

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Again
Posted by: Evan Derkacz on Jan 6, 2007 12:11 AM   
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This is highly problematic.

rwa's post and others' are a blend of wishful interpretation and mangled facts.

To begin with, rwa's opening statement is bordering on ludicrous when you consider the Holocaust. Now, whether or not the Holocaust is adequate "justification" for the creation of Israel is something reasonable people can dispute, but to imply that Israelis had to contrive anti-semitism is something you'd have to want to believe.

The history of Iraq's Jews is complex, but the implication that it was smooth sailing for Jews in the 30s-40s is just plain wrong. You would simply have to know nothing of the history to believe that. You would, of course, be forgiven for knowing nothing of the history of Jews in Iraq but when you spread that ignorance so thickly in public and go claiming that it was all Unicorns and Puppy Dogs till the Zionists themselves arrived to terrorize their own people, I must take issue.

brunowe's comments are a good start. Iraq found sympathy in the Nazi regime as early as the 30s and Jews began to see the laws go sour. They couldn't hold office, they were targeted for special laws, the whole bit. There was a pogrom in 1941.

Anomalek's description of the Lavon Affair is disingenuous at best and, like rwa's original comment, illustrates the nature of those who espouse Jewish conspiracy theories.

The Lavon affair was not, as you imply, an Israeli-led campaign to encourage Egyptian Jews to emigrate via phony terrrorist attacks. It was an attempt to get the Brits and US to remain in stationed in the Suez Canal.

How this has been subsumed into Jewish conspiracy theories I can only take wild guesses at...

People, I'm sure you're not out to harm Jews or Israel. Problem is, your highly subjective and fanciful reading of the facts points to a willingness to believe in nefarious conspiracies where more complex chains of reasoning lie.

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The point
Posted by: Evan Derkacz on Jan 8, 2007 9:33 AM   
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Let's backtrack a second here.

While there does seem to be some evidence of Zionist involvement in getting Jews to leave Iraq, there was also ample native tension as well -- and there were more reasons for Jews staying in these lands than you portray.

Your conspiracy theory framing of this murky situation, complete with a reliance on the self-serving memoir of a man whose life was lived with some downright evil people who tampered with the sovereignty of numerous nations for the CIA, is shaky at best.

Funny how a man who lived his life doing horrible things and then repenting in his dying days is somehow entirely credible for you...

You've taken a complex situation with a history that's far from revealed and you've reduced it to a simple case of bad and good in order to shoehorn it into your preconceived beliefs about Zionism.

It's this kind of crap that makes it that much harder for those with a genuine desire to repair this situation to do so.

Nota Bene: when you say things like "Zionist-dominated media," you look like an idiot and sound like a bigot.

This is a thinly-veiled version of "Jews control the media." This is untrue and this claim makes you irrelevant and impotent.

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