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Updated Olbermann: Special Comment on Sacrifice of War [VIDEO]

Posted by Evan Derkacz at 12:54 PM on January 3, 2007.


Sacrifice, Mr. Bush? No, sir, this is not "sacrifice." This has now become "human sacrifice."
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Update: In response to the president's "sacrifice" speech last night, I'm reposting this Olbermann special comment...

A BBC report indicates that Bush will order more troops to Iraq in a call for sacrifice. But from whom? And toward what end? Olbermann once again captures the zeigeist -- nearly as well as Spider-Man.

Full transcript after the jump...

If in your presence an individual tried to sacrifice an American serviceman or woman, would you intervene?

Would you at least protest?

What if he had already sacrificed 3,003 of them?

What if he had already sacrificed 3,003 of them -- and was then to announce his intention to sacrifice hundreds, maybe thousands, more?

This is where we stand tonight with the BBC report of President Bush's "new Iraq strategy," and his impending speech to the nation, which, according to a quoted senior American official, will be about troop increases and "sacrifice."

The president has delayed, dawdled and deferred for the month since the release of the Iraq Study Group.

He has seemingly heard out everybody, and listened to none of them.

If the BBC is right -- and we can only pray it is not -- he has settled on the only solution all the true experts agree cannot possibly work: more American personnel in Iraq, not as trainers for Iraqi troops, but as part of some flabby plan for "sacrifice."

Sacrifice!

More American servicemen and women will have their lives risked.

More American servicemen and women will have their lives ended.

More American families will have to bear the unbearable and rationalize the unforgivable --"sacrifice" -- sacrifice now, sacrifice tomorrow, sacrifice forever.

And more Americans -- more even than the two-thirds who already believe we need fewer troops in Iraq, not more -- will have to conclude the president does not have any idea what he's doing -- and that other Americans will have to die for that reason.

It must now be branded as propaganda -- for even the president cannot truly feel that very many people still believe him to be competent in this area, let alone "the decider."

But from our impeccable reporter at the Pentagon, Jim Miklaszewski, tonight comes confirmation of something called "surge and accelerate" -- as many as 20,000 additional troops --f or "political purposes" …

This, in line with what we had previously heard, that this will be proclaimed a short-term measure, for the stated purpose of increasing security in and around Baghdad, and giving an Iraqi government a chance to establish some kind of order.

This is palpable nonsense, Mr. Bush.

If this is your intention -- if the centerpiece of your announcement next week will be "sacrifice" -- sacrifice your intention, not more American lives!

As Sen. Joseph Biden has pointed out, the new troops might improve the ratio our forces face relative to those living in Baghdad (friend and foe), from 200 to 1, to just 100 to 1.

"Sacrifice?"

No.

A drop in the bucket.

The additional men and women you have sentenced to go there, sir, will serve only as targets.

They will not be there "short-term," Mr. Bush; for many it will mean a year or more in death's shadow.

This is not temporary, Mr. Bush.

For the Americans who will die because of you, it will be as permanent as it gets.

The various rationales for what Mr. Bush will reportedly re-christen "sacrifice" constitute a very thin gruel, indeed.

The former labor secretary, Robert Reich, says Sen. John McCain told him that the "surge" would help the "morale" of the troops already in Iraq.

If Mr. McCain truly said that, and truly believes it, he has either forgotten completely his own experience in Vietnam … or he is unaware of the recent Military Times poll indicating only 38 percent of our active military want to see more troops sent … or Mr. McCain has departed from reality.

Then there is the argument that to take any steps toward reducing troop numbers would show weakness to the enemy in Iraq, or to the terrorists around the world.

This simplistic logic ignores the inescapable fact that we have indeed already showed weakness to the enemy, and to the terrorists.

We have shown them that we will let our own people be killed for no good reason.

We have now shown them that we will continue to do so.

We have shown them our stupidity.

Mr. Bush, your judgment about Iraq -- and now about "sacrifice" -- is at variance with your people's, to the point of delusion.

Your most respected generals see no value in a "surge" -- they could not possibly see it in this madness of "sacrifice."

The Iraq Study Group told you it would be a mistake.

Perhaps dozens more have told you it would be a mistake.

And you threw their wisdom back, until you finally heard what you wanted to hear, like some child drawing straws and then saying "best two out of three … best three out of five … hundredth one counts."

Your citizens, the people for whom you work, have told you they do not want this, and moreover, they do not want you to do this.

Yet once again, sir, you have ignored all of us.

Mr. Bush, you do not own this country!

To those Republicans who have not broken free from the slavery of partisanship -- those bonded still, to this president and this administration, and now bonded to this "sacrifice" --proceed at your own peril.

John McCain may still hear the applause of small crowds -- he has somehow inured himself to the hypocrisy, and the tragedy, of a man who considers himself the ultimate realist, courting the votes of those who support the government telling visitors to the Grand Canyon that it was caused by the Great Flood.

That Mr. McCain is selling himself off to the irrational right, parcel by parcel, like some great landowner facing bankruptcy, seems to be obvious to everybody but himself.

Or, maybe it is obvious to him and he simply no longer cares.

But to the rest of you in the Republican Party:

We need you to speak up, right now, in defense of your country's most precious assets -- the lives of its citizens who are in harm's way.

If you do not, you are not serving this nation's interests -- nor your own.

November should have told you this.

The opening of the new Congress on Wednesday and Thursday should tell you this.

Next time, those missing Republicans will be you.

And to the Democrats now yoked to the helm of this sinking ship, you proceed at your own peril, as well.

President Bush may not be very good at reality, but he and Mr. Cheney and Mr. Rove are still gifted at letting American troops be killed, and then turning their deaths to their own political advantage.

The equation is simple. This country does not want more troops in Iraq.

It wants fewer.

Go and make it happen, or go and look for other work.

Yet you Democrats must assume that even if you take the most obvious of courses, and cut off funding for the war, Mr. Bush will ignore you as long as possible, or will find the money elsewhere, or will spend the money meant to protect the troops, and re-purpose it to keep as many troops there as long as he can keep them there.

Because that's what this is all about, is it not, Mr. Bush?

That is what this "sacrifice" has been for.

To continue this senseless, endless war.

You have dressed it up in the clothing, first of a hunt for weapons of mass destruction, then of liberation … then of regional imperative … then of oil prices … and now in these new terms of "sacrifice" -- it's like a damned game of Colorforms, isn't it, sir?

This senseless, endless war.

But -- it has not been senseless in two ways.

It has succeeded, Mr. Bush, in enabling you to deaden the collective mind of this country to the pointlessness of endless war, against the wrong people, in the wrong place, at the wrong time.

It has gotten many of us used to the idea -- the virtual "white noise" -- of conflict far away, of the deaths of young Americans, of vague "sacrifice" for some fluid cause, too complicated to be interpreted except in terms of the very important-sounding but ultimately meaningless phrase "the war on terror."

And the war's second accomplishment -- your second accomplishment, sir -- is to have taken money out of the pockets of every American, even out of the pockets of the dead soldiers on the battlefield, and their families, and to have given that money to the war profiteers.

Because if you sell the Army a thousand Humvees, you can't sell them any more until the first thousand have been destroyed.

The service men and women are ancillary to the equation.

This is about the planned obsolescence of ordnance, isn't, Mr. Bush? And the building of detention centers? And the design of a $125 million courtroom complex at Gitmo, complete with restaurants.

At least the war profiteers have made their money, sir.

And we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain.

You have insisted, Mr. Bush, that we must not lose in Iraq, that if we don't fight them there we will fight them here -- as if the corollary were somehow true, that if by fighting them there we will not have to fight them here.

And yet you have re-made our country, and not re-made it for the better, on the premise that we need to be ready to "fight them here," anyway, and always.

In point of fact even if the civil war in Iraq somehow ended tomorrow, and the risk to Americans there ended with it, we would have already suffered a defeat -- not fatal, not world-changing, not, but for the lives lost, of enduring consequence.

But this country has already lost in Iraq, sir.

Your policy in Iraq has already had its crushing impact on our safety here.

You have already fomented new terrorism and new terrorists.

You have already stoked paranoia.

You have already pitted Americans, one against the other.

We … will have to live with it.

We … will have to live with what -- of the fabric of our nation -- you have already "sacrificed."

The only object still admissible in this debate is the quickest and safest exit for our people there.

But you -- and soon, Mr. Bush, it will be you and you alone -- still insist otherwise.

And our sons and daughters and fathers and mothers will be sacrificed there tonight, sir, so that you can say you did not "lose in Iraq."

Our policy in Iraq has been criticized for being indescribable, for being inscrutable, for being ineffable.

But it is all too easily understood now.

First we sent Americans to their deaths for your lie, Mr. Bush.

Now we are sending them to their deaths for your ego.

If what is reported is true -- if your decision is made and the "sacrifice" is ordered -- take a page instead from the man at whose funeral you so eloquently spoke this morning -- Gerald Ford:

Put pragmatism and the healing of a nation ahead of some kind of misguided vision.

Atone.

Sacrifice, Mr. Bush?

No, sir, this is not "sacrifice." This has now become "human sacrifice."

And it must stop.

And you can stop it.

Next week, make us all look wrong.

Our meaningless sacrifice in Iraq must stop.

And you must stop it.

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Evan Derkacz is an AlterNet editor. He writes and edits PEEK, the blog of blogs.


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Posted by: breakthesky on Jan 3, 2007 1:42 PM   
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What else is there to say? The man said it all and said it well. Thank God we have someone one the air who has the guts to tell it like it is.

I wasn't much interested in impeachment because I thought it would be impossible and probably not worth the effort (ie. Bush's term would end before impeachment could be accomplished). Now I feel like we MUST pursue this to save our country from the insanity of this man. Clearly he wants to build up troops in Iraq because he expects conflict with Iran. Either we will bomb Iran or Israel will do it for us. Bush wants to be ready when this occurs.

Bush patently does NOT give a rat's patootie what anyone thinks. He wants war with Iran and he won't let anyone stop him.

God, what a nightmare!

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Thank you, Keith Olbermann.
Posted by: jkhaff on Jan 3, 2007 2:19 PM   
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Keith Olbermann's eloquent 'special comments' have me hope. It can feel hopeless that any sense can be voiced when you live in such a red state as mine. Keith Olbermanns peaks for millions of Americans. His viewpoint is so much more mainstream than anyone I know will give him credit for. The November elections proved that.

There is no question in my mind George W. Bush should be impeached. I'd take it further--he is a outright criminal. I don't have any delusions that such justice will be brought, but I do hope the chorus of discontent is soon so loud that Bush himself is simply muted and irrelevant.

So much damage has been done on such a scale words can't put it into perspective. I'm so glad the American population is waking up, perhaps with the help of brilliant and well spoken individuals such as Keith Olbermann.

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What do you mean "we"?
Posted by: Pseudonym on Jan 3, 2007 2:58 PM   
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Why does Mr. Olberman continue to say "we" as if the unilateral acts of Bush are ourn corporate acts? "We" are not fighting a war in Iraq; Mr. Bush is. Mr. Bush is ruling as an autocrat; "we" have no say, why should "we" take any blame?

How is it possible in an alleged democracy for one man to wage a war most people don't want?

Clearly there are several things we need to do:

1) presidential power verges on the dictatorial. Someone needs to roll back all those states of emergency that give the president more power than Idi Amin.

2) Instead of sacrificing soldiers, let's sacrifice Bushn. He needs to be removed from office yesterday and handed over to international authorities for trial as a war criminal. Regardless of the outcome, such a humble gesture would restore our international image and influence,

3) the Republican Party has been tricked into becoming a subversive organization that advocates the overthrow of our system of government. We need to denazify it.

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» RE: What do you mean "we"? Posted by: Basenjis
» RE: What do you mean "we"? Posted by: sheena2u
» RE: What do you mean "we"? Posted by: helenwheels
"EWWWWWWWWWWW! Now THAT's GOTTA HURT!"
Posted by: stephenburnett on Jan 3, 2007 3:11 PM   
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"EWWWWWWWWWWW! Now THAT's GOTTA HURT!"

You go, Keith!!!

Keith Olbermann for President!! [Sorry to say, Keith would NEVER do that.....]

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The Man, but...
Posted by: imors on Jan 3, 2007 6:21 PM   
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Don't get me wrong, I admire and am grateful for the voice of Keith Olbermann. But, aren't we wearing blinders here? The premise is that the US is a democracy. Everyone talks about our great democracy. But it isn't a democracy. It's a demographically biased capitalistic state, consumed by comsumer madness. What does the world think, I wonder, when the so-called President of the United States stands on the rubble of the WTC with megaphone in hand and advises the populace to go shopping on the ruins of our national psyche? I guess it's that neo-adage: when the going gets tough, the tough go shopping. How ludicrous. How vapid. The problem here is that they DO own the country. The only alternative to the insanity that is upon us is to take it back by popular and peaceful protest. Stop shopping. Stop driving. Stop buying into the Empirical agenda. Wake up and remain conscious.

That's all I have to say.

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Go Keith Go!
Posted by: jimlup on Jan 3, 2007 8:34 PM   
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Olbermann's comments are awesome. Now I think he will find resistance. Powerful people are not going to be happy that there is such an eloquant and truthful speaker if for nothing else than it represents the hope for true democracy.

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» RE: Go Keith Go! Posted by: helenwheels
In answer to some of the above posters,,,
Posted by: John Rice on Jan 4, 2007 4:41 AM   
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,,,it is "we" because "we" allow our nation's criminality to continue--so that "we" now "own it".......

it is "we" because through our taxes, "we" support and fund it.....

it is "we" who have the blood of much of the world's dead on our hands through the actions of our military or the actions of our state dept.

It is "we" who have accepted the nonsense that if one political party can't fix it, the other one will--when in reality, both parties arrive at the same station, just at different speeds and by different routes dictated by different deep pockets.

To believe our present state of affairs is not the result of bipartisan efforts is to be in denial of history.

We need a viable third party to drive our nation toward a different direction--one favoring our citizens as opposed to those who own our government and profit from our wars.

The Neither Party (www.neitherparty.org ) is in the process of evolving into a party of, by and for the people, and you are urged to inform, direct and/or lead the way in whatever way you are able. We have a mountain to climb over, go around or tunnel through. We must start now.

Regards,,,John
( john_rice@neitherparty.org )

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Time for Mr. Bush and cronies to sacrifice
Posted by: sfortuna on Jan 4, 2007 4:48 AM   
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Kudos to Keith for starting the ball rolling, but it is up to us to keep the pressure on our elected officials. Make sure the Democrats stick to their campaign promises of less money for this war, a plan to gradulally reduce troop levels, and legislating ways to curb the influence of war profiteers who write much of our defense and foreign policy. Help starve the war effort: Boycott the products of and sell all shares in Boeing, General Dynamics, Raytheon, Haliburton, L3, Olin, Dow and other exporters of death. Put your money in funds that invest only in peaceful companies Write your congressperson, especially if they are one of the rabid right who have no regard Peacemakers need to see themselves as lifesavers, not only of our servicemen and women and their families, but of the American way of life. Half a trillion dollars and 3000 lives wasted in this neo-con nightmare. Those dollars and lives lost forever, that will never be used for good, or to cure disease, protect our borders or educate our next generation of leaders. Hear the war profiteers laughing all the way to their Swiss bank accounts? It's time for them and Mr. Bush's oil cronies to learn of sacrifice. Unfortunately, it's an uphill battle. Many media moguls also own firms that profit heavily from government work (Ironically NBC probably gets more direct government $$ than any media firm via their General Electric subsidiary). I don't own a TV, but thanks to AlterNet I can hear the rumblings of peace and common sense bubbling up through the cultural cesspool that is American mass media. I'm sure Keith Olbermann is being marginalized and isolated by paid pundits and propagandist whores like Bill Kristol, but it's time for this sleeping giant to wake up and see the horrors we are committing because we've allowed a few fascists to maipulate our fears. The greatest threats to our democracy and way of life are not half-starved illiterate fanatics in Iraq, but in the halls of power in Washington DC.

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Mayan, Saddam, Marie Antoinette, Czar Nicholas, Islamic, Mad dog style, it doesn't matter
Posted by: xbj on Jan 4, 2007 6:10 AM   
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The style doesn't matter; what matters is that Mr. Bush and his ENTIRE Administration (including recent bailers like Rumsfeld) need DESPERATELY to be sacrificed to their god of War ASAP.

On the White House lawn. With live cameras rolling.

The only way you stop mad dogs is to PUT THEM DOWN.

After a Saddam-style "Democratic" trial of course.

Only SHORTER.

Do this (and at least this) and America will survive. Fail to do this, and history will record that America was destroyed in December of 2000 with one single corrupt "Supreme" Court decision to "get on with it"; 'it' being Nazism and world conquest starting with its own Reichstag Fire on 9-11.

Just because Jews and a handful of blacks are among the Nazis this time, and the targets this time are all Moslems and not Jews and "anyone not for us", doesn't make it any less Nazism. In fact, German Nazis were at least more honest and quite clear about their aims; these Amerikan Nazis are far worse, wrapping themselves in dead words, Orwellian doublespeak like "Democracy" and "Freedom" and American Flags already dripping red with babies' and other innocent blood. Genocide of an entire religion can only be the final result of any "war on terror" where each military "accidental" death results in hundreds, if not thousands more "terrorists" to avenge that innocent death. Americans would be no different if the situation were reversed. Americans would fight an occupier bent on genocide to the death of every last man, woman, and child, and of course so will all of Islam. So would anybody.

One could even say the German Nazis were even more noble, because they truly hated their enemy; these Amerikan Nazi bastards just see them as meal tickets to increasing their portfolios and wealth for their worthless spawn, while Propaganda Minister Rove spins the hate out upon the Red State masses and Pharisee Christianist churches. Ditto the troops... dumb animals, as Kissinger once said. Meal tickets.

We will either put down Amerikan Nazism now, or the rest of the world will indeed put all of us down, and justifiably so.

The Amerika these bastards have created ISN'T WORTH LIVING IN, FIGHTING FOR, or certainly DYING FOR. That shining beacon of light and liberty that WAS America has been covered with their feces and their innocent victims' bodies for YEARS NOW.

We either clean it up, starting with EACH AND EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM, or the world cleans us up. It's that simple.

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But will the Majority in Congress listen?
Posted by: outlander55 on Jan 4, 2007 7:45 AM   
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Everyone should forward this to their reps in Congress. They are the ones that need to listen. Our demands for accountability have fallen on deaf ears up to now. Speaker Pelosi needs to forget the term, "Impeachment is off the table". Hearings should begin tomorrow and not stop until all of the war criminals are held accountable. Bush, Cheney, Pearl, Wolfawitz, Rumsfeld, Negraponte, Rice.... The list is huge, but if we, the American people are to win back our country and our rights, the fight must go on. Beware the military industrial complex or we who shout the truth shall fall victim to their tyrrany.

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Auspicious coincidence
Posted by: surfreality on Jan 4, 2007 9:27 AM   
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"It has succeeded, Mr. Bush, in enabling you to deaden the collective mind of this country to the pointlessness of endless war, against the wrong people, in the wrong place, at the wrong time."

I love a good auspicious coincidence. Here's my letter in the NY Daily News yesterday:

"We are at war alone because we attacked a secular country that had nothing to do with 9/11. It's not smart to pick the wrong fight against the wrong enemy at the wrong time."

The letter was a reponse to another letter to the editor complaining that America was fighting alone because the rest of the world fails to understand the nature of the global threat that radical Islam poses.

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Terrorism in America
Posted by: thehousedog on Jan 4, 2007 9:59 AM   
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Everybody just pick up the phone and call the FBI and report that a terrorist is living at the white house. Tell them that under the powers of the Homeland Security Act they MUST investigate - wiretap, open the mail, and search without a warrant all of the persons and effects of the occupants of that home. Make the law work against the law breaker.

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Here's a rhetorical question:
Posted by: Voicedude on Jan 4, 2007 10:04 AM   
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Here's a rhetorical question:

Why are we still hearing stall re-hashes of ideas from the likes of Obama, Hilary, and 'Baby-Faced' Edwards?

HERE is the only man we need to run this country!
First one to give a damn and have the juevos to back it up since JFK.

Better yet, let's make him the VP candidate -
that way he'll be able to take his gloves off and do some REAL work!

Oh, yeah.........and don't mention 'Hilary' again.....

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The Bush Twins Should Join the Military and "Sacrifice"
Posted by: colleenwhalen on Jan 4, 2007 10:05 AM   
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Thousands of women soldiers are fighting, dying and being disabled in the Iraq War. The Bush twins don't even have jobs but goof off as socialites, shop and go to parties. Those bush daughters are exactly like Paris Hilton but with better clothes and they don't get photogrphaed with no underwear in the crotch shot as they get out of limosines.

Why isn't any of the military age young people in the bush family in the military? Jeb has a son in his 20's and he hasn't enlisted. To my knowledge only one politician in Washingotn has a grown child in the war in Iraq. John McCain got his son to enlist to help his presidential bid - but thats it.

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Olbermann is a true american
Posted by: ccBallagh on Jan 4, 2007 4:38 PM   
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like me,olbermann is not fooled by the partisan games- orwellian double speech- and lies lies lies..

my stance is the same as it was when the war in iraq was announced end this phony war IMMEDIATELY!!

any other plan is a game to keep the checks flowing in for the rich and the wealthy

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Kurt Nimo:
Posted by: rwa on Jan 4, 2007 8:51 PM   
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"As usual, Keith Olbermann, one of the only sane voices left in the corporate media, the other being Lou Dobbs, had a few choice words about this:

Olbermann, however, trumpets the "liberal" line, namely Bush (read: the neocons) has no idea what he is doing in Iraq.

Admittedly, Bush may not know what he is doing from one moment to the next, as he is a former drunk and drug abuser, and thus a mental graveyard, but his coterie of neocons most certainly know what they are doing—coming up with excuses to send more troops into Iraq, not to win that which cannot be won, as another basket case, McCain, would have us believe, but rather to see through "mission accomplished," the destruction and balkanization of Iraq. It’s a work in progress, with horrifying results. For instance, last weekend, a series of car bombings killed more than 70 people in Shia neighborhoods in the hours after Saddam Hussein was lynched by a gaggle of puppets installed by the neocons."

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JB
Posted by: jb10966 on Jan 5, 2007 6:53 AM   
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Where was Keith in 2003? Where was anybody in the media? At least 25% of the country throught this war was insanely idiotic from the beginning. We were attacking a Country four thousand miles away under false pretenses with our leaders expecting to be greeted in the streets as liberators. The arrogance and lack of foresight is inexcusable.

I will not now "admire" Keith for his "courage" for "standing up" to the President. We have been a nation of sheep blinded by patriotism, arrogance, and irrational fear. I will not admire those who did not have the wisdom to stand up against this madness from the beginning.

We are getting exactly what we deserve... a good ass-kicking.

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maninmoon
Posted by: maninmoon on Jan 7, 2007 10:43 PM   
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Way to go Kieth! ...Again!
Personally, I would've like to hear him refer to Mr. Bush as
"unelected dimwit", rather than "sir". "Sir" denotes respect, and I can find no respect for a dimwitted little bully that can't even understand (or abide by) The Constitution, and slaghters innocents for his oil "pals".

Time to cut off campaign contributions entirely. The "richest guy wins" is not supposed to be what we're about. Would it be so hard to devote an extra 1/2 hour of "news" devoted solely to those running for elections? Could it be any worse than that lame ass Donald Trump "thing"? (people watch that?)
I'm sure PBS would at least air it, provided Bush doesn't put it out of business first.
And "lobbying" should be made a felony, for that is all it's become.
And what the heck, "The Federal? Reserve Board?" Who are they? They answer to no one in government. Thay are a group of mostly foreign bankers. The richest of the rich.
(I asked around) ELIMINATE them. They're legalized thieves!
It will take 40 years to undo Bushes messes.
It's not gonna be easy, but we might as well start.
At least Hitler had the guts to "do the right thing" when he lost. The Bush "family" just bought a 100,000 "ranch" in Paraguay. (Where the smart Nazis went) Don't belive it? Check out the "Latina News Service"

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CONGRESS MUST RESCIND THE AUTHORIZATION TO USE FORCE!!
Posted by: xbj on Jan 8, 2007 6:22 AM   
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Any constitutional law experts out there? Can't Congress rescind the authorization to use force? Get a team of lawyers to determine that CONGRESS WAS LIED TO in the first place and that THE ORIGINAL AUTHORIZATION WAS OBTAINED UNDER FALSE PRETENSES.

Therby making it NULL AND VOID. LEGALLY.

This would effectively KILL not only THE SURGE, but ALSO KILL ANY NUKING OF IRAN WITHOUT CONGRESS GIVING FUTURE APPROVAL.

IF THIS CAN BE DONE, IT MUST BE DONE A.S.A.P.

Bush could NO LONGER sneak attack Iran (in a phony retaliation against a flase flag attack against American or Canadian interests carried out by Israel) IF THIS IS CARRIED OUT.

Not only that, it would stop the surge DEAD IN ITS TRACKS WITHOUT withdrawing funding or support for current troops.

It could also be seen as a first step toward impeachment and forcing the White House War Pigs to BRING HOME THE TROOPS.

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joluna
Posted by: joluna on Jan 8, 2007 3:56 PM   
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It's a terrible mess. Too few soldiers, too many immigrants. What about a jobs/citizenship program. I know it's not PC- I don't want to sacrifice anyone (least of all my children). Just a thought.

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» RE: joluna Posted by: rg
Protest in Washington DC?
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Jan 11, 2007 5:15 PM   
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Would a million Americans protesting in Protest in Washington DC make a difference? How about Valentines Day at the White House?

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Other numbers that matter
Posted by: 2sense on Jan 12, 2007 6:25 AM   
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My one complaint is the constant reference to 3000+ American deaths. So little reference is ever given to the HUGE tragedy of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi deaths that our war unleashed on a country whose only "crime" was to have been under the control of a dictator that wasn't an American puppet.
An aside; we also have over 47,000 non-fatal American casualties, and no one could possibly know the number of non-fatal casualties in Iraq. I think, in a way, the entire country could be considered a casualty.

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