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Saddam still dead; add another "milestone" to the list …

Posted by Joshua Holland at 12:28 PM on December 30, 2006.


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I, along with Jonathan Weiler and a few others have been keeping track of the many turning points proclaimed by the preznit since the invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Today, Bush said: "Bringing Saddam Hussein to justice will not end the violence in Iraq, but it is an important milestone on Iraq's course to becoming a democracy that can govern, sustain, and defend itself"

That was, by my reckoning, the sixteenth "turning point" or "milestone" (along with one chance to "turn the tide" and a "watershed event") in the last three and a half years.

Less than two months ago, when Saddam was found guilty, Bush called the verdict "a milestone in the Iraqi people's efforts to replace the rule of a tyrant with the rule of law."

On June 8:

Bush said the killing of Zarqawi was a severe blow to al Qaeda and offered a chance for the Iraqi government to "turn the tide" in the struggle against the insurgency.

On May 22, after Iraq's new cabinet was formed:

"The main reason I've come today is to talk to you about a watershed event that took place this weekend in Iraq. . . . We have now reached a turning point in the struggle between freedom and terror."

And on May 4, after Iraq's factions agreed on a new Prime Minister:

"This new government represents a turning point in Iraq, a new chapter in our engagement there, and an opportunity for progress."

May 1, after Condi returned from Baghdad, where she congratulated then-Prime Minister-designate Maliki:

"We believe this is a turning point for the Iraqi citizens, and it's a new chapter in our partnership."

April 23:

"The formation of this government is an important milestone toward our victory in Iraq."

Dec. 15, 2005, a few days before Parliamentary elections:

"And there's a lot of joy as far as I'm concerned in seeing the Iraqi people accomplish this major milestone in the march to democracy."

Dec. 12, 2005:

"There's still a lot of difficult work to be done in Iraq, but thanks to the courage of the Iraqi people, the year 2005 will be recorded as a turning point in the history of Iraq, the history of the Middle East, and the history of freedom.

Oct. 16, 2005, after Iraq adopted its new Constitution:

"So, again, I congratulate the Iraqi people. I thank you for meeting this milestone."

June 28, 2005:

"When the history of this period is written, the liberation of Afghanistan and the liberation of Iraq will be remembered as great turning points in the story of freedom."

April 12, 2005:

"The establishment of a free Iraq at the heart of the Middle East will be a crushing defeat to the forces of tyranny and terror, and a watershed event in the global democratic revolution."

Jan. 29, 2005, before the first Parliamentary elections:

"Tomorrow the world will witness a turning point in the history of Iraq, a milestone in the advance of freedom, and a crucial advance in the war on terror."

June 18, 2004:

"A turning point will come in less than two weeks. On June the 30th, full sovereignty will be transferred to the interim government. The Coalition Provisional Authority will cease to exist."

March 19, 2004, on the first anniversary of the invasion:

"Today, as Iraqis join the free peoples of the world, we mark a turning point for the Middle East and a crucial advance for human liberty."

July 23, 2003, after the formation of an interim government:

"Now that we have reached this important milestone, I urge the nations of the world to contribute, militarily and financially, towards fulfilling Security Council Resolution 1483's vision of a free and secure Iraq."

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Joshua Holland is a staff writer at Alternet and a regular contributor to The Gadflyer.


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Hanging Saddam by Mike Whitney
Posted by: rwa on Dec 30, 2006 2:26 PM   
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The execution of Saddam Hussein is another grim chapter in the catalogue of war crimes perpetrated against the Iraqi people. It is a gratuitous act of barbarism devoid of justice.

What right does Bush have to kill Saddam? What right does the author of Abu Ghraib, Falluja, Haditha and countless other atrocities have to pass judgment on the former leader of a nation which posed no threat to the United States?

Let’s be clear, the lowliest, most ruthless Iraqi has more right to rule Iraq than the most upright American. That’s what’s meant by "self determination". When we honor "self rule" we avoid bloody interventions like the invasion of Iraq.

Bush believes that killing Saddam will achieve the "closure" which has eluded him through 4 years of occupation. But he is mistaken. Saddam’s death will only eliminate any opportunity for a political solution. Reconciliation will be impossible and Saddam will die as a hero.

Is that what Bush wants?

Or does Bush really know what he wants? Perhaps, he is just a war-mongering psychopath completely disconnected from reality.

Capital punishment is a moral evil. The state never has the right to kill its own people regardless of their crimes; Saddam is no exception. But the premeditated murder of Saddam is particularly appalling, because it is stupid as well as unjust. It cuts off dialogue with the very people (the Ba’athist-led resistance) who need to be entered into the political process to achieve normalization. Bush is destroying his last chance for a negotiated settlement and paving the way for America’s total defeat.

It’s complete madness.

The Iraqi Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki, told the Times Online that "the deposed president could be hanged 'within hours’" and that his death sentence would be executed by Saturday at the latest.

Munir Haddad, the presiding judge on the appeals court, said, "All the measures have been done. There is no reason for delays."

Plans are already underway to film the entire event.

It’s impossible to imagine a more fitting summary of 6 years of Bush rule than video-footage of Saddam’s limp figure dangling at the end of a rope. The pictures will no doubt replace the iconic photos of the hooded Abu Ghraib prisoner who appeared in headlines across the world.

The United States will pay a heavy price for Bush’s savagery. The war is already going badly and this latest travesty will only quicken America’s inevitable withdrawal.

America has become a moral swamp, its leaders incapable of wisdom or mercy. Hanging Saddam only adds to our mutual disgrace and exposes the real face of American justice.

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Saddam or none, Iraq is still a mess and will remain that way unless
Posted by: maxpayne on Dec 30, 2006 6:18 PM   
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the US changes its policies. Instead of blaming the troops and Iraqi citizens only, it's time to GUN down the politicians, the vested business interests, lobbyists, etc ... who are responsible for creating the policies that led to this mess. If it weren't for them, the army, marines, navy, etc ... in the US wouldn't be tainted by now. Until that's done, this country will stay DOOMED forever !

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By the way, remember that
Posted by: maxpayne on Dec 30, 2006 6:20 PM   
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it was Washington that enabled Saddam back in the 80s before they were against him and it was only because he was viewed as a checkpoint against Iran.

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"But, Jacob, you were always a good man at business" said Ebenezer
Posted by: Sojourner on Dec 30, 2006 10:14 PM   
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In the spirit of the season, W's *milestones* are like the links in Marley's chain, only they now hang around the necks of the American people.

This Christmas has been full of ghosts--the list supplied in this article plus the ghost of Vietnam past. Both Kissinger and Rumsfeld no longer have a free run of the world, for fear that they might be brought up on charges of war crimes. The bones of their legacies are already being picked over to see if any are worth bothering to take to the marketplace.

I see no Christmas miracle for us in Iraq. Where are the businesspeople who know about "cutting your loses." Oh, that's right, it would be "cut and run." When you are getting the crap beat out of you and you have no chance of winning, don't sane people try to live to fight another day?

I heard just a bit of Fisk's (of the Guardian) November speech about the history of Britain's earlier experiences with Iraq. Word for word exactly the excuses we are hearing today, before the Brits had sense enough to cut their losses and get out.

In Vietnam we thought we could do better than the French. In Iraq we thought we could do better than the British. Will we never learn?

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he was already dead
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Dec 30, 2006 10:30 PM   
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I know this is old news to most (and much fun has been had of this fact by such great, and sadly defunct, shows like 'Arrested Development') but he was most likely captured well before the 'spider hole' incident and most likely killed before this 'hanging'. In fact most people I know that have experience in military (NATO) were surprised that he was 'captured' at all (i.e., the ruse of capture). Most assumed that he would be summarily killed or (the Germans) that he would be detained/examined/tortured and then found dead. Amazingly, (must be the 'can-do' American attitude) we went with the ruse far more than most Europeans could've imagined. Not that it matters when the bastards die though.
OUT OF CHOAS ORDER>
ps: I hope I'm right and that this isn't a ruse for Saddam being/playing the "12th" or "Hidden" Imam and rising from the grave.

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With this many turning points...
Posted by: brunowe on Dec 30, 2006 10:46 PM   
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...it's no wonder we've been spinning around in circles.

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We didn't see him die.
Posted by: Artkansas on Dec 31, 2006 11:52 AM   
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So he was standing there with a noose on his neck. We never saw him drop and kick. Do we really know that he's dead? He could have been spirited out of there alive shortly after the video stopped. The conspiracy begins... ;o)

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another turningpoint...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Dec 31, 2006 2:41 PM   
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... on our downward spiral.

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bush should follow rule of law
Posted by: drblack on Jan 1, 2007 2:36 PM   
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Resident bush should follow the Rule of law himself. The FISA law was disregarded ,and so was the laws against torture. Need I go on.
bush is the WORST PRESIDENT EVER. The USA will take decades recovering from his and the neoCONS total mismanagment of our great country's resources.
No one has hurt American Freedom more then the neoCONs.

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What about Osama Nin Laden?
Posted by: Landbaron on Jan 2, 2007 11:10 AM   
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Too slick for everyone!!

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Milestones and turning points for me.
Posted by: monkeywrench on Jan 2, 2007 4:58 PM   
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I'm looking for a milestone of my own: When we finally honor the Constitution and impeach (and then prosecute) the criminals in the executive branch.

I am also looking for a turning point: when we finally "turn on point" towards sanity in our government; otherwise, the loss of our democratic ideals will be a "watershed" event for America – and the "water shed" will be tears by the rest of humanity as it watches a guiding light wink out.

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