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NY Times wouldn't know a populist...if one got elected

Posted by Joshua Holland at 6:17 PM on November 12, 2006.


Joshua Holland: What a wildly muddled political discourse we have.
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Robin Toner and Kate Zernike had an almost incomprehensible article on Sunday in the New York Times.

Incoming Democrats Put Populism Before Ideology

They start with a discussion of the freshman class in 1994 under Newt Gingrich, which they say was distinctly ideological despite the fact that it was, in reality, deeply populist. Gingrich railed against entrenched Democrats and the day was carried by the House Banking Scandal -- a non-issue that was all about out-of-touch politicians getting bennies that were inconceivable to ordinary people. Sorry, but term limits are not ideological -- they were a textbook example of 'throw the bums out' populism.

Then Toner and Zernike contrast Gingrich's supposed ideological revolution with the winners last week:

Many in the class of 2006, especially those who delivered the new Democratic majorities by winning Republican seats, show little appetite for that kind of ideological crusade. ...[T]hey say they were given a rare opportunity by voters, many of them independents and Republicans, who were tired of the partisanship and gridlock in Washington.

Hating partisanship and gridlock is neither populist nor ideological -- it's exhaustion with poor governance.

Now, they say, they have to produce -- to deal with long-festering problems like access to affordable health care and the loss of manufacturing jobs, and to find a bipartisan consensus for an exit strategy in Iraq, a source of continuing division not only between but also within the parties.

Many of them say they must also, somehow, find a way to address the growing anxiety among voters about a global economy that no longer seems to work for them. There is a strong populist tinge to this class.

What a bunch of nonsense. If you put the word "economic" in front of "populism," then you're talking about the economic world-view -- the ideological position -- of the Dems' liberal wing and progressive base. The problem here is the authors' attempt to create a false dichotomy; they're trying to draw a distinction that doesn't exist. If they mean a group that may be more moderate on social issues (that's not entirely true) but are a bunch of fighting lefties on the economy, they should say it.

Because populism is a specific rhetorical style; populists stress that the system is being gamed by elites who govern in their own narrow interests and that ordinary people have to take power for the good of society. Populist issues can be social or economic, left (e.g. CEO pay) or right (O'Reilly's war on Christmas or activist judges). At their best populists shine a light on the fact that there's so much policy that is in fact made by elites in their own interests and at their worst populists can be anti-intellectual, racist or fond of using silly stereotypes to marginalize ideological opponents (like East-Coast latté-drinking liberals).

Five or six incoming lawmakers ran genuinely populist campaigns, but every winner ran against the Bush agenda. They fought hard, and maybe that's what's confusing these Times' reporters -- they've been convinced that liberals are supposed to be wimps. But that obscures the fact that they ran against what passes for conservatism these days and that's why they won (by the way, I haven't seen any exit polls in which voters said that "partisanship" in Washington was a key issue -- Iraq, corruption and the economy were the big issues).

And look at these examples of a "strong populist tinge" -- economic anxiety in the face of corporate globalization, affordable healthcare and a strategy for getting out of Iraq.

I'll concede that opposing the bipartisan trade consensus blurs the line between populism and ideology. In every article and post I write about trade I stress that lobbyists write these deals and the benefits they confer go primarily to those who hire them. That's populist rhetoric and it was used in a dozen campaigns in 2006. But the implication here by the New York Times, which shills for any policy that bears the "free trade" label, regardless of what it entails, is that there is no ideological basis for opposing corporate trade deals. That's wrong; more and more progressives are waking up to the fact that their effect is an upward redistribution of wealth, and that they're a part of a broader basket of issues that fall under the banner of "economic justice," which is decidedly ideological.

And look at the other two issues the authors cite -- single payer healthcare and getting out of Iraq. Sorry, but if those aren't among the top issues among ideological progressives, I don't know what is.

In general, they set themselves an extraordinary (political veterans might say impossible) task: to avoid the ideological wars that have so dominated Congress in recent years, to be pragmatists, and to change the tone in Washington after a sharply partisan campaign.

Good luck getting single-payer healthcare through without an ideological war. Try "bloodbath."

The authors then give examples of newly-elected Democrats who complain about partisanship: Harry Mitchell (AZ) says "I can't be a rabid partisan Democrat and represent this district," Nancy Boyda (KS) adds: ""Stop the gridlock, stop the nastiness, get something done. People are tired of excuses" and Claire McCaskill (MO) finishes with: ""I'm not from a blue echo chamber. I'm from a state that's really like America -- it's divided."

Then this whopper:

These attitudes could lead to tensions with the party's liberal base in Congress -- many of the party's expected committee chairmen are traditional liberals -- and thus occasional headaches over the next two years for ... Nancy Pelosi and Senator Harry Reid.

Why? Because traditional liberals don't want to get out of Iraq, don't want more protections written into trade deals and hate single-payer healthcare? Please.

But Democratic strategists say both leaders recognize that the new Democratic majority was elected, in large part, from Republican-leaning districts and states. If those new members vote in a purely partisan way, they -- and the majority -- will quickly be put at risk.

If they vote in a purely partisan way on what? Raising the minimum wage? Allowing Medicare to negotiate prices with drug companies? Reducing interest rates on student loans? This is yet more incoherence from un-named "Democratic strategists" (and, hey, wasn't the Times going to cut down on using un-named sources when they aren't entirely necessary?)

Representative Rahm Emanuel, the Illinois Democrat who recruited many of these candidates as head of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, described the group as "moderate in temperament and reformers in spirit." Conservatives tend to highlight the conservatism in the new class as a sign that Democrats are essentially ceding ground to the right on issues like gun control and abortion.

What conservatism in the new class? Here's Chris Bowers' take on that narrative, one of 9,000 articles showing that last week's elections were anything but a win for conservatives:

So, it looks like about 60%-70% of the incoming Democratic freshmen who took over Republican-held seats meet one of the three following criteria:

  • Joining the progressive caucus
  • From a blue district
  • Netroots candidate

Wow. What a conservative wave. A great victory for conservatives indeed. Throw in uber-conservative freshmen Phil Hare (IL-17), Keith Ellison (MN-05), and Mazie Hirono (HI-02), who all filled Democratic open-seats, and who will all probably join the progressive caucus …

And as for "ceding ground to the right" on abortion and gun control, there are essentially 3 or 4 incoming Dems who oppose abortion -- all from conservative districts (nothing new there). Gun control is an issue that most Dems have pretty much given up on years ago -- like the Republicans ditched the idea of balanced budgets. Party platforms evolve.

The rest of the article is in the same vein; newcomers like Jim Webb (VA), Ron Klein (FL) and Sherrod Brown (OH-- new to the Senate) saying they're concerned with basic issues of economic fairness.

Let's bottom line this. The prevailing culture of the New York Times is liberal on social issues -- and most of its writers certainly don't seem to like Bush -- but is economically conservative and supports a "muscular" foreign policy (although they favor the Clinton/ Bush I style of muscularity). There is a basketful of real, pressing issues that fall into the category of "economic insecurity," and these have long been core concerns of the progressive community. Americans are moving left, and these issues are the reason why. By dismissing them as lacking in substance and ideological coherence -- portraying them as a matter of populist rhetorical style that is, for obvious reasons, marginalized among social and political elites -- they're essentially discounting their legitimacy.

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Joshua Holland is a staff writer at Alternet and a regular contributor to The Gadflyer.


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Populist or popular?
Posted by: HeroesAll on Nov 12, 2006 7:08 PM   
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Many of them say they must also, somehow, find a way to address the growing anxiety among voters about a global economy that no longer seems to work for them. There is a strong populist tinge to this class.

I'd say less of the 'populist' and more of the 'popular'. Or, to put it in more straightforward terms, they're keen to address the issues that their constituents care about. How is that bad?

In general, they set themselves an extraordinary (political veterans might say impossible) task: to avoid the ideological wars that have so dominated Congress in recent years, to be pragmatists, and to change the tone in Washington after a sharply partisan campaign.

So, they're saying that they won't descend to the level of the Republicans, will try to achieve the basic things their constituents want, and errr, what the hell are they talking about? 'Sharply partisan campaign'? I admit I'm not privy to all the gory details of US election drivel, but it seemed from here that Dems in general were pointing to the numerous failures of the Bush administration, while Republicans were claiming that Dems would make Osama president. How does that reflect on the progressives, exactly?

“The problem with Washington,” Ms. McCaskill added, “is you have so many senators who are from bright blue and bright red states; they’re not interested in common ground. They’re interested in making each other look bad.”
These attitudes could lead to tensions with the party’s liberal base in Congress


I assume this is because the 'party's liberal base' wants to continue with the playground squabbles...?

Heath Shuler: I was taught at a very, very young age about faith and personal responsibility, and through that, that responsibility was about helping those who cannot help themselves

Sounds like ideology to me.

The whole article sounds like a load of bollocks to me, actually. It sounds like a subtle put-down: as though Gingrich and his wild boys, in advancing their 'conservative agenda of exceptional ambition' which utterly devastated so much of American life, were somehow superior to some progressive Dems who want to try to achieve what their constituents want.

Perhaps I'm being obtuse, but that's how it feels to me. I never have credited the US pundits ability to believe that the NYT was at all left, but I'd at least thought they were generally respectable. This article looks like a lot of half-hearted wiffling that damns the new Dems with faint praise while wistfully yearning for the glorious days of Wild Newt Gingrich.

Honestly, how could anyone trust someone called Newt?

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Excellent article
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Nov 12, 2006 7:24 PM   
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Just keep in mind that left wing rabble rousers can turn much of the right-wing rhetoric back on them. Elites? Nothing like rich CEOs living high at the expense of out-sourced workers. Crime? I'll bet the state of Texas released more serial killers to ply their trade under their idiotic sentencing than the whole country put together. Small business? Do you really think that small businesses are much influenced by minium wage as the Chamber of Commerce harps on about? It's Wal Mart that forces workers into minimum wage catagory. Supporting the troops? By not properly equiping them and screwing them on benefits? Etc.

Plenty of fodder for a latter day Huey Long to munch on.

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» RE: xcellent article Posted by: Joshua Holland
» Not necessarily Posted by: medstudgeek
Democratic Party elites
Posted by: pharmawatcher on Nov 13, 2006 3:38 AM   
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You wrote, "Because traditional liberals don't want to get out of Iraq, don't want more protections written into trade deals and hate single-payer healthcare? Please."

Sorry Josh. When the Democratic Party leadership lines up behind single-payer healthcare, I'll eat my hat.
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» Huh? Posted by: Joshua Holland
The Ignored Election of Bernie Sanders
Posted by: chitijdth on Nov 13, 2006 5:24 AM   
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I must be wrong…I thought Bernie Sanders of Vermont was elected to the Senate last week; however, there is no mention of him either in Alternet articles or in the New York Times. When the Times profiled some of the newly elected Senators in their Sunday Edition, no mention was made of Bernie Sanders. This article, too, writes about the same newly elected Senators (Sherrod Brown, et. al) without in any way acknowledging the election of a real populist who campaigned on populist economic issues, identified himself as a a Socialist in the service of democracy, and was elected not only by traditional Democrats, but also by cultural Conservatives concerned about those economic issues..

Indeed, I wouldn’t be sure he was elected last Tuesday if I hadn’t seen an interview with him on “Democracy Now.” It seems that the election of Sherrod Brown is always cited as a victory for populism without looking – or mentioning – the fact that he voted in favor of the recently passed detainee bill with its removal of the right of habeas corpus. I don’t feel I have to agree with every vote of every Representative or Senator to hold him/her in high regard – with the exception of something as heinous as the detainee bill – a genuine first step towards fascism. I am glad that Sanders’ vote will count as much as Brown’s in the new Senate despite the absence of any mention of his victory.

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I found a similar kind of double-talk in my local Knight-Ridder rag's editorials.
Posted by: Sojourner on Nov 13, 2006 7:20 AM   
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It's a rock-ribbed conservative horn. After they put me on their "block messages from this sender" list, I stopped even reading them. However, I bought yesterday's copy for a friend who clips coupons, and I read the editorials.

Can one have "straight" double-talk? They have suddenly discovered local poverty. I cannot say they haven't written about it, even though a census put our city in the top (bottom?) ten for high levels of povery for families and the top three for kids, because I don't read them regularly. But it's only now that Demos are in power that they will run a week-long feature series. It's about time they noticed.

I decided as I read that such was their response to the devastating defeat of most of what they stand for. (Californians agree with them on anti-new taxes.) The mantra we can expect to see lots of in the coming months is that conservatives are were still *in the right* because voters elected Demos only for conservative reasons. So like the kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar, they can be disappointed only in the flavor.

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Populism is ideology
Posted by: citizenjoe on Nov 13, 2006 8:52 AM   
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I am not sure what Josh is saying. Josh, do you agree that "populism" is a term for ideology? Most "-ism" terms select ideologies. "Populism" has both right-wing and left-wing variants. What they have in common is a call for a popular political rebellion (not a revolution) against authority which is thought to be damaging to the most basic interests of the people, their livelihood and everyday life. Right wing populists want a mostly corrupt and self-interested government off the backs of the people; this is anti-government and usually anti-taxes, very regressive. Left wing populism is usually class oriented, "the enemy is the rich", and calls for more democracy (as in the case of the Progressive Party of Lafollettes. "Soak the rich" can also be used by right wing nativist populism. It calls for a patriotic authoritarianism, e.g. Huey Long. Every bit of this, right and left, is ideology.

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» RE: Populism is ideology Posted by: Joshua Holland
» Not really Posted by: citizenjoe
» History lessons indeed ... Posted by: Joshua Holland
Democrats are not Populists
Posted by: gnovak55 on Nov 13, 2006 9:29 AM   
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Basically, democrats don't produce populism, because it is fakery which conservatives rely upon to sell an ideology which does not stand up to analysis. But democrats are now light on ideology, not just for this election but quite a ways back, because their basic agenda can no longer be sustained with the loss of their voter base in the lower classes and blacks. Their basic agenda is equal opportunity created through a domestic agenda, while they prefer to mind their own business in foreign affairs rather than blacken the landscape through empire building. So democrats are only claiming to chip away at their goals in the most modest manner. This timidness has been stirring up no small amount of angst among liberals who claim democrats need to stand up and take a strong position on pressing concerns. In fact, it seems that their opponents are saying something similar. But there are basically only two ideologies—liberal and conservative. Why should democrats become watered down conservatives? Should they be full blown liberals? They would never get elected if they did.

Democrats as full blown liberals lost their voter base because of Carter. He was, by nature, as conservative as Reagan. Most of Reaganism began during the Carter years. It included the bankruptcy of agriculture, which Carter began by stopping agricultural exports to Russia as supposed punishment for invading Afghanistan. Russia bought from Canada and Argentina, while U.S. farmers lost critical exports. Reagan then drove two thirds of the farmers into chapter 11 and one third out of business by dumping stored commodities. Carter also began the quest to end welfare. Even though Reagan never completed the task, he poisoned the environment to such an extent that welfare was dead by the time Clinton finished it off. Carter drove up interest rates (through the Fed) as a supposed fix for the economy by shoving low class workers off the bottom of the economic ladder. And Carter supported oppressive dictators, such as the Shaw of Iran, who he wanted to bring into the country. For these reasons, the lower classes could not vote for Carter, and they could not vote for Reagan. So they disconnected from the political process and had no way of getting back in.

This means there is no voter base for traditional liberalism. If democrats don't want to sell out their values for equal opportunity, all they can do is be less aggressive in pursuing them.

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» RE: Democrats are not Populists Posted by: Joshua Holland
» Chicken and Egg Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: Chicken and Egg Posted by: gnovak55
Where are the heads of these "talking heads"?
Posted by: Gma1 on Nov 13, 2006 1:16 PM   
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I've noticed in the past couple of days, especially today, Monday, that many of these so-called "experts" in the TV news media are saying the same thing - that the left is moving to the right, blah, blah, blah! To me, a Democrat, a little left of center, but not a wingnut, there is a world of difference between us and them. It seems to me that the current election was more about "progressivism" in the manner of Teddy Roosevelt and his Bull Moose Party. FDR expanded on that philosophy as he felt the need at the time. It was a good decision. He was a better desider than our current desider!

Maybe this election was about the longing for the days of the progressive roots of the Democratic party when government was not allowed to run roughshod over the wishes of the people. Remember the Anti-Thrust Laws? Teddy Roosevelt instituted those. Teddy Roosevelt was a Democrat at heart.



DEFINITIONS:

Populism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Populism is a political philosophy or rhetorical style that holds that the common person's interests are oppressed or hindered by the elite in society, and that the instruments of the state need to be grasped from this self-serving elite and used for the benefit and advancement of the people as a whole. Hence a populist is one who is perceived to craft his or her rhetoric as appeals to the economic, social, and common sense concerns of average people. Most scholarship on populism since 1980 has discussed it as a rhetorical style that can be used to promote a variety of political ideologies. Leaders of populist movements in recent decades have claimed to have been on both the left and the right (Canovan, Kazin, Betz) of the political spectrum, while some populists claim to be neither "left wing," "centrist" nor "right wing."

Populism is often thought of as in opposition to elitism.(See more at Wikipedia)

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Progressivism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Progressivism is a term that refers to a broad school of contemporary international social and political philosophies. As a political term, progressive was first widely used in late 19th century North America, in reference to a general branch of political thought opposed to traditional conservatism. Political parties such as the American Progressive Party formed at the start of the 20th century, and progressivism made great strides throughout the early 1900's.

There are at least three distinct meanings of the word "progressive", as it is used today. Ordered from the most vague to the most specific, they are as follows:

In the broadest sense, the label "progressive" may be used in self-description of anyone who advocates any kind of change in a society, or in any part of the political spectrum.
In a somewhat more restricted sense, "progressive" is a term used within left-wing politics to distinguish left-wingers who advocate moderate or gradual social change - often called either "progressives" or "reformists" - from those who advocate larger and more rapid changes - called "revolutionaries" or "radicals".
Finally, in the most specific sense, there is the continuation of the political movement/ideology that began in the late 19th century. This ideology is mostly adhered to by the political left-wing, but not every liberal is a progressive. Progressives support the continual advancement of workers' rights and social justice. The first progressives were some of the earliest proponents of anti-trust laws and the regulation of large corporations and monopolies. They were also among the first advocates of government-funded environmentalism, and the creation of National Parks and Wildlife Refuges. It is this meaning of progressivism that will be covered more extensively in the rest of the article below. (Gma1: Teddy Roosevelt)(see more at Wikipedia)

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alternet and other liberal media not into economic populism, but into identity politics
Posted by: mah_favorite_flavor_cherry_red on Nov 13, 2006 1:31 PM   
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holland wrote:

There is a strong populist tinge to this class.


Only with respect to foreign trade.


If you put the word "economic" in front of "populism," then you're talking about the economic world-view -- the ideological position -- of the Dems' liberal wing and progressive base.



Tell me what percentage of articles on Alternet deal with economic populism. I can tell you because I have been keeping track--about 5% or less. Alternet represents the base of political activists, and you lot are ANYTHING BUT economic populist. You are concerned primarily with race and gender and sexuality politics. However, the democratic candidates never mentioned this core aspect of the democratic base ideology in this campaign, did they?
They did however talk about trade. But remember that shutting out foreign trade is a two edged sword. It will raise prices for goods. And it will create more jobs here in America. However, this time that will do no good, as there are 100 million third world latinos ready to take those jobs at lower wages than americans will work for. Thanks dems and republicans!

you wrote:

And look at the other two issues the authors cite -- single payer healthcare and getting out of Iraq. Sorry, but if those aren't among the top issues among ideological progressives, I don't know what is.



You show me where a democrat got on a national sunday morning tv talk show recently and spent any significant time talking about single payer healthcare. Show me that and I will change my username to josh_holland_is_god




Why? Because traditional liberals don't want to get out of Iraq, don't want more protections written into trade deals and hate single-payer healthcare? Please.



Well, traditional liberals DO hate single payer healthcare! There has NEVER been a single payer healthcare plan supported by the democratic establishment in any way, shape or form. Ever!


Let's bottom line this. The prevailing culture of the New York Times is liberal on social issues -- and most of its writers certainly don't seem to like Bush -- but is economically conservative and supports a "muscular" foreign policy (although they favor the Clinton/ Bush I style of muscularity).


Looks like you at least learned SOMETHING from me....



There is a basketful of real, pressing issues that fall into the category of "economic insecurity," and these have long been core concerns of the progressive community.


Absolutely UNTRUE. As I have shown here on Alternet time and time again, economic concerns for all working class Americans are NOT a concern for the democratic activist base. What DOES concern you lot are race and gender and sexuality issues and partisan political gossip. Do I need to break out my file of archived Alternet headlines and prove it to you?
Race and gender, divide and rule. That is your mainstay. And economics populism has very little to do with that.



Americans are moving left,


Americans have ALWAYS been to the left of the democratic base on economics issues, and when I say "democratic base," I include those who write the articles on Alternet, those who choose these articles, AND most of those who READ these articles. You democratic activist base types are RIGHTWING economically.

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Single-payer "bloodbath": LA Times In Cahoots?
Posted by: eddie torres on Nov 13, 2006 2:39 PM   
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Anti-populists are already submerging beneath the waves in preparation for a war of denial. The LA Times printed an "article" by America's Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), a "health insurance industry trade group", that pre-emptively guarantees "virtually" all American adults will have health care coverage... ten years from now.

Don't abandon your Blue Cross just yet, progressives.

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NYT and WSJ
Posted by: tap17x on Nov 13, 2006 3:58 PM   
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The reporters and columnists of the former are probably swallowing too much of the loathsome swill from the editorial pages of the latter. They're in the same city and tend to think that the rest of the U.S. is an unimportant afterthought.

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Limits Of Progressivism, Part I
Posted by: shinseiji on Nov 14, 2006 3:41 PM   
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"Progressive" is a pecularity of the American political vocabulary. "Liberal, Conservative" is an invention of 19th century Victorian Britain meaning something totally different in official American political discourse. I use it in its original, British sense as this concept much more accurately captures the actual political dynamics of these two symbiotic wings of the ruling class.

In opposition to the left blogosphere, I do not interpret the 06 election results as a mass shift to the left at this political moment. I also would hold that the insistence that this is, objectively or subjectively, a shift "to the left" is in itself symptomatic of the same sort of "muddled political discourse" that Joshua Holland criticizes in the NYT. If "9,000 articles" say otherwise, then all the greater the muddle, isn't it? Since it would take an extended essay to straighten things out, for which there is not room here, an ideological schematic up to 2003-06:

Official Discourse:
-Far, Radical Right: McVeigh, skinheads, neo-Nazis
-Republicans: "conservatives"
-Democrats: "variously moderate to liberal"
-Liberals: from Kerry to communists
-Progressives: Liberals
-Nader, Greens: Radical left liberals
-Populist: "economic" or "social" radicalism, left or right

Reality:
-Far, Radical Right: dominant Repub wing
-Republicans: dominant Radical Right, subordinate conservative wing (this may change now!)
-Democrats: dominant conservatives, subordinate liberals
-Liberals: subordinate wing of Democrats
-Progressives: Pelosi liberals + MOST leftists
-Greens, Nader, etc: small radical left, NOT liberals
-Populist: everything except libs, conservatives per "reality" (British) definition.

Note the core of the cognitive dissonance in official American political discourse (including much of the Left!): The Republicans have been since 1994 a RADICAL RIGHT party. They want to change things alot! They hate the status quo, and in this sense they "hate America"!. The Democrats, OTOH, are the true party of the status quo, the very definition of "conservative". They are willing to trim a bit in first a reactionary, then progressive, direction, so long as the status quo is maintained. All in all the official spectrum is in reality shifted much further to the right than official language admits.

Key changes to note over the last 8 years. Before 2001 there was a sizable progressive left current moving away from the Dems toward independent left politics. between 2003-06 this current was sharply reversed as most progressive leftists stampeded back into the Democratic party in an objective SHIFT TO THE RIGHT. This gave an opening for "traditional" Dem libs to repackage themselves as "progressives" and is why the CPC has swelled its numbers. The poster who stated, 'It seems to me that the current election was more about "progressivism" in the manner of Teddy Roosevelt and his Bull Moose Party.' hit it right on the head. It is the only historical progressivism the USA has ever known! Although we are far from a conservative such as T. Roosevelt or a liberal such as W. Wilson masquerading as a "progressive", we are seeing a similar phenomenon on a smaller scale now.

The trick to catch here is that "progressive" is a RELATIVE concept. One "progresses" from a certain point in the reigning political spectrum, and that of the USA's is pretty far to the right on the global scale.

Now in 2006 if we are seeing a move to the "left", it is in the possible collapse of radical right hegemony and the reassertion of Poppy Bush conservative leadership in the Republican party.

So much for political epistemology for the time being.
(Continued in Part 2)

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Limits Of Progressivism, Part II
Posted by: shinseiji on Nov 14, 2006 4:36 PM   
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How about the masses? Is there a "shift to the left"? First of all most fundamentally, some 60% of (eligible?, registered?) voters did not bother to vote. However steeped in ignorance and alienation the non-vote may be, it must be admitted that a substantial majority of the American population do not feel motivated enough by what we may see as the "urgency" of the present situation to actually intervene in politics with their vote. Apparently the Iraq disaster, the health care crisis, etc., are not enough to disturb the presumed "tranquility" of their private lives. In this way non-voting can be seen to have a political content favoring the status quo and is conservative by default. A real mass shift to the left would have also featured a sizable percentage of these nonvoters actively intervening in politics, not passively supporting the status quo.

Feel free to try to refute this interpretation, but it is noticed that the left has done very little to include this in their analysis. To state that this is "aways" the turnout in off-Presidential elections is only to highlight the depth of a conservative inertia contained in the political system that has not been reversed.

Secondly, on the key issue of the 06 vote - the Iraq war - there is no evidence that the "moderate", "swing" or "muddled" section of the vote - some 30% of opinion, not vote, in rough estimate - that previously supported Bush and his Iraq war have now turned against it for "left" reasons. This America hates a loser, and their support was conditioned on this being a winning war. When it turned out not to be so, they "swung". This is a conservative group, overlapping both major parties, that - rejecting the real substance of the meaning of 911 - still wants to believe that aggressive imperialist war "protects" them, "benefits" them, is "good" for America. They certainly know that losing a war won't!

Thirdly, it IS true that, as one poster put it, that on "economic" issues the American people have been substantially to the "left" of the official political system for quite some time - probably since the 1970's. Nothing better describes how sharply skewed to the right the American political spectrum is than this persistent yawning gap between elites and masses on "economic" questions. The former have done everything in their power to either distract and cover up, or simply ignore this gap, either with a constant torrent of noxious, loud-mouthed right wing demagoguery or with the icy silence of the conservative Democrats. In the 06 elections the shift in the health care situation from one of chronic crisis to apparent imminent collapse has probably exercised a secondary influence in the outcome, but the objective "economic leftism" of the American people has yet to link up with a left political perspective on war, for example. As Lou Dobbs shows, in this environment economic leftism can easily be coupled to right wing political demagoguery. We will see if the shift of some liberals into the "progressive" camp - while still remaining liberals, of course - makes a difference in this situation.

Finally, it is true that the "big battalions" of the mass Right - the fundies, the Arab and Muslim hating bigots - have been thrown into a state of confusion and disorder for the time being. But the temporary absence of a strong, united mass Right presence on the American political scene - a political vacuum on the Right - should not be mistaken for a "shift to the Left".

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