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Pastor Ted Haggard on his 'sexually immoral conduct'

Posted by Evan Derkacz at 8:03 AM on November 6, 2006.


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"Pastor Ted" has finally fessed up to still undisclosed sexual indiscretions, having satisfied feelings he's had since early in life. To his credit:

"Haggard asked the congregation of the church he founded 26 years ago to forgive him. He also told church members not to be angry at his accuser, instead urging them to thank God for him.

"He didn't violate you; I did," Haggard said.

Poor choice of words notwithstanding, that is a big and difficult thing to say. He also wrote: "I take responsibility for the entire problem."

Within his desire to take full responsibility, however, lies the problem. That he, and a fair but diminishing number of Americans, see homosexuality as the devil's work; that it's his attraction to men that he should apologize for and not the hypocrisy he promotes that causes so many good people such brutal pain and anguish.

Jack Balkin, typically a constitutional lawyer and professor, connects the psychology to the policy rhetoric: Viewed from Ted Haggard's perspective -- a man who, despite his shame and guilt, is attracted to other men -- gay marriage and the gay lifestyle really are a threat to heterosexual relationships and heterosexual marriage. That is because they are a threat to his heterosexual identity and his heterosexual marriage.

Balkin concludes:

The Haggard story is a story not only about Haggard, but about America itself. Our country has not yet accepted that it is morally ok to be gay or bi-sexual, even though America has millions of gay and bi-sexual people who are our friends, co-workers, and family members; moreover, we are a country with many gay and bi-sexual people who themselves won't accept that it is morally ok to be gay or bi-sexual. Therefore we as a nation hate ourselves, fear ourselves, fight ourselves and try to banish ourselves from the face of the earth. It should be obvious enough that such a strategy is doomed to failure, but the real tragedy is how long -- and at what cost in human suffering -- it will take us to recognize it.

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Evan Derkacz is an AlterNet editor. He writes and edits PEEK, the blog of blogs.


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Probably true
Posted by: albrechtkrausse on Nov 6, 2006 8:14 AM   
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but even an arch-defender of homosexuals would have to admit that cheating on his wife with a meth-addicted male prostitute is something that should be condemned! Ok, if he wasn't married, maybe, it'd be ok (depending on your views on prostitution, drugs, and homosexuality) but I'd be hard-pressed to say that its ok for anyone to cheat on their partner (whether same-sex or regular relationship) -and especially with a prostitute drug-user (can you say the most likely candidate for a sexually transmitted disease.) Darn right he needs to be forgiven for something!

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» Who's the addict? Posted by: YogiBear
check out your own shadow
Posted by: caru on Nov 6, 2006 8:39 AM   
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we do need to be really loving ourselves and get clear on what is in our shadows. only then will we stop war, corruption, deciet and abuse.

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Hypocracy can't be rationalized away. That is the case here, plain & simple.
Posted by: Prophit on Nov 6, 2006 8:40 AM   
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The damage he did using his political religious power to others is the crime. Who cares about his personal life, I care about his hypocracy and power to damage others. He deserves a lot more than what he is going to get with this convenient apology to his congregation that he should have done immediately upon outing.

He denied and lied as a pastor, to people who trusted and believed in him, which is worse, since he knows better. He misled and finally admitted when it became obvious he would be outed and exposed. He couldn't hide it anymore, so he admitted it and apologized for political expediency. Another hypocritcal act.

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frank67
Posted by: frank67 on Nov 6, 2006 8:52 AM   
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Chickens coming home to roost!

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» RE: frank67 Posted by: AlienSlave
Nice
Posted by: aburritt on Nov 6, 2006 9:16 AM   
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Excellent post Evan, which says it all.

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Evangelical Theology
Posted by: rileycase on Nov 6, 2006 10:12 AM   
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It is helpful to understand how evangelical theology operates at this point. Evangelical Christians believe in a fallen world. Sin is real and none is above temptation. Haggard's sin is that of unfaithfulness, deception, and hypocrisy. But God has made provision that even these sins can be forgiven. Haggard can be restored and welcomed as a forgiven sinner. This does not mean, of course, that he should be continued as pastor of the church nor as head of NAE. Evangelical faith rests upon the steadfastness of God, not of church leaders, no matter how respected they may have been.

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Hating and fighting ourselves
Posted by: lb on Nov 6, 2006 10:40 AM   
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It is a big problem when self-hating, closeted homosexuals are in positions of power, like in the clergy or government. They promote overly repressive and harsh positions, like labeling normal sexuality as sin or a criminal act. Or they act out their sexuality and the institution helps them cover it up, like with clergy (or politicians) who molest people below the age of consent. It would be much healthier for them and the rest of society if they would just "deal with it" and accept their sexual orientation.

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Haggard
Posted by: domenico234 on Nov 6, 2006 11:40 AM   
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This man gave up his "confession" only when he knew he had no choice. He violated his marriage vows & violated everthing else when he stood on a platform & did harm to those whose sexual proclivities do not fit into what is acceptable to The Right Wing Majority

I feel sorrow for his wife, whom he decieved for years...& for his five children, & I am sad for his homosexual partner whom he denied & denied & denied again...("No, I never met the man...")

Is there anyone in this country naive enough to believe that Ted Haggard would ever have "confessed" had it not been that his partner (with whom he engaged in sex approximately once a month for three years & from whom he acquired Meth) his partner was able to prove their relationship? My hat's off to his "partner" who had the brights to hang on to proof that Haggard was & is a "LIAR."

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STAND BY YOUR MAN
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Nov 6, 2006 1:26 PM   
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It seems that Mrs. Haggard is not about to abandon her man just because he had a moral lapse (that's what the Right Wing Nuts call it). Why would she feel the need to be a good wife to such low life? The children? Not a good reason. There have to be consequences to outrageous behavior. I would have had a date by now. There's just so much that we owe each other and there are limits. Marriage is not a free pass to screw up.
Thanks, ANNA

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Forgiveness and Consequences
Posted by: Rabblerouser on Nov 6, 2006 9:40 PM   
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Haggard's oppositon to all that's gay is, in his mind, Biblically based (I think he and they are wrong, but that's not the point right now). They will continue to try and and get God to remove the condition and to live 'clean;y' with it until then. Some see it as Paul's thorn in the flesh' for example. So, his opinion, and that of the Evegels won't change, regardless of who gets hurt or self destructs.

The thing that gets me, is that for his entire adult life, NO ONE knew he wasn't ok. He was 'channeling' God, counseling, directing, sucking up to Bush, etc.

So, throughout all this, he's SERIOUSLY compromised....this is the thing that shocks me. No one raises this issue. I mean the worst is that you're not ok adn you don't tell anyone. His whole life he'smhidden this shame and pretended, and lied, and been dismissive, etc. Evegels and politics don't mix. ONe is about mercy and the other about justice.

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Sinners drawn to evangelical life
Posted by: YogiBear on Nov 7, 2006 2:12 AM   
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Here's an account that explains the evangelical mindset and the reason such big men take such big falls:

"Evangelical Christianity lays a trap for its leaders and sincere followers. People who struggle with sexual identity and promiscuity are drawn to a format of faith that promises them help and relief from the oppression of the cycle of 'guilt, white-knuckling, lapse, self-flagellation, repentance, forgiveness, guilt, white-knuckling and relapse-again.'

Is it any wonder that those who are most addicted to acting out sexually (illicit sex, homosexuality, pornography, seduction, extra-marital affairs, fornication) would seek safety in a belief system and community that promised divine deliverance?

One of the more revelatory experiences I`ve had in the last year came through a discussion forum for the gay community. Over and over again, sincere men and women struggling with guilt about homosexual feelings reported that they converted to Christianity and joined churches to be freed from their 'sin.'"

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Cruelty is the greater wrong; hypocrisy is the intellectualization of the harm done
Posted by: rverne8 on Nov 7, 2006 4:07 AM   
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The Rev. Ted Haggard`s public admission of "indiscretions" is further evidence that social conservatives and their political allies have gone off a cliff with their fixation on homosexuality.
By furthering the mistreating of gays everywhere, Haggard furthered a cruel cause that continues to harm millions of people who are oppressed because of society's warped viewpoints. Haggard's actions (and his church's continuing actions) in preaching against gays promotes the narrow points of view heard daily, such as 'ewww, men kissing, how disgusting.'
The 14th amendment was passed a long time ago, and became, officially at least, part of our mind set.
There's an important word in that amendment- "all". Check it out.

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hypocrisy
Posted by: Burton on Nov 9, 2006 10:02 AM   
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This is another example of the hypocrisy of traditional values.

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