Finally the truth comes out!! Almost everyone on the left has known all along that the "evangelicals" were being played. The evangelicals think they can take over capitol hill but they dont have the power they only think they do.

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"A little patience, and we shall see the reign of witches pass over, their spells dissolve, and the people, recovering their true sight, restore their government to its true principles. It is true that in the mean time we are suffering deeply in spirit, and incurring the horrors of a war & long oppressions of enormous public debt. ..." -- Thomas Jefferson to John Taylor, 4 June 1798

Today's witches would be the hypocrits that tout their Christianity but spread their spells (lies) and act like any other low life terrorist who thinks that the Creator speaks just to them and them only.

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As we all scamper about in glee, singing "Ding-dong, the Wicked Witch is dead", no one seems to be discussing what, to me, is a key question.

While I am as overjoyed as the next Progressive that the Republican strangle-hold on "morality issues" is finally weakening & that Conservative Christians are no longer automatically going to give those currently in power their unquestioning support, I must wonder WHO THEY WILL SUPPORT. It's not as though the crumbling structure of the GOP is going to cause the Religious Right to magically disappear. Tele-Evangelic-Power-Hour-Players are not suddenly going to cancel their lucrative "ministries". We will not see millions of true believers experiencing overnight conversions to a genial "live-&-let-live" mindset.

However you feel about these people's convictions, it cannot be forgotten that they are CONVINCED. There may be a period of disillusionment & disorganization, but they WILL regroup & continue to advance their cause, either through a purged & revamped GOP or through a new "populist" party. A driving force behind the Fundamentalist interpretation of Christ's teachings seems to be feelings of fear & marginalization. How on earth will this improve with the revelations of hypocrisies among those self-appointed to lead the charge?

A movement that tacitly supports the murder of people it finds offensive (doctors, judges, etc.) is most certainly not going to evaporate simply due to some cracks in the facade. Desperate people will engage in desperate acts. I fear that this "setback" we are all so busy snickering about will turn out to be the most galvanizing event in the recent history of the Religious Right. These folks are committed & they are feeling cornered & betrayed. We dismiss them at great cost, both as neighbors within our communities & in terms of the future unity of our nation.

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The GOP has been in the majority since 1994, and yet they have done nothing they promise to do for the Far Right Christian Evlangelicas. Why not? Because they can always get a vote from those who do believe their lies.. that is just a ploy to get the vote from the Chrisitan community. Nothing else serious. Just the vote please.

Q~

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Grumble bum has pegged the REAL point we should attend to. Any and all of the disillusioned Fundies are still committed to their agenda of a Christian dominated administration in Washington.
It's unlikely they would go 180 degrees and discover the Democrats, it's equally unrealistic to expect them to fund a Third Party.
What seems the logical endgame here is that they will purged the GOP of all Bush cronies, push "genuine" Fundy candidates in their place and attempt a Taliban style takeover from within the House and Senate - if Bushco have been able to ride roughshod over the Constitution and Bill of Rights (not to mention International Law and The Geneva Convention) the Fundies as "The worm in the Apple" would be able to take the US firmly back to the Good Olde 19th Century.

Let's watch where their support starts to gather.

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Hey! It's the first time "Condi" has done anything of which I have approved!

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Someone needs to sit down these evangelicals and remind them that true morality does not involve whether or not gays can marry and/or live together, but rather how we each treat our fellow human beings and other living things of the Earth. A good place to start would be to point out what should be obvious to "true Christians": that there are at best only a few passages in the Bible concerning gays, but more than one thousand passages concerning how we should be kind and respectful toward the least fortunate among us.

This message should be clear to all evangelicals who really follow the Bible. I'm not sure if the reason they choose to ignore the obvious is a sin, but it sure smacks of convenient neglect. Maybe if they replace narrow and bigoted politics with true humanity, they will see that they have been backing the wrong party – and have been used by it as well.

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Condi Rice and Laura Bush aren't they only hipocrites in the Republican Administration. See the following below from the Center for American Progress, on "60 Minutes Last Weekend and on Olbermann's "Countdown" on MSNBC last week.

Losing the Faith
"More than five years after President Bush created the Office of Faith-Based Initiatives," David Kuo, the former special assistant to President Bush on faith-based issues, is "going public with an insider's tell-all account that portrays an office used almost exclusively to win political points." Kuo is a "self-described conservative Christian" who has worked with former Sen. Jack Kemp (R-NY), prominent conservative activist Bill Bennett, and former Attorney General John Ashcroft. In his book "Tempting Faith," Kuo accuses Karl Rove and others in the Bush administration of "cynically hijacking the faith-based initiatives idea for electoral gain," ignoring issues such as poverty, and limiting faith-based grants to organizations that are "politically friendly to the administration." Rove's office, according to Kuo, referred to evangelicals as "boorish," "nuts," "ridiculous," "out of control," and "just plain 'goofy.'" The revelations come as right-wing politicians "worry that angry evangelicals may stay home from the polls" because of the House leadership's mishandling of the Foley scandal. Kuo's new book reveals a conservative agenda which values crass politics over the "values" agenda. As E.J. Dionne writes, the current political climate presents a "national opportunity to break free from empty, politically driven rhetoric that has nothing to do with strengthening families and everything to do with electoral advantage."

NOT THE FIRST INSIDER CRITICISM: Kuo has criticized the administration's handling of faith-based programs before. In 2005, Kuo described the "minimal senior White House commitment to the faith-based agenda" during his time in the administration. Kuo bemoaned the lack of focus on poverty. "[The White House] never really wanted the 'poor people stuff,'" he wrote. Kuo was at one time the consummate right-wing insider. Keith Olbermann reported last night that during his stint at Jack Kemp's think tank, Empower America, "[Kuo] and his team taught more than 600 candidates how to run for office -- by blaming President Clinton for the nation's sad state of affairs at the time." John DiIulio, the head of the faith-based program until Aug. 2001, also spoke out against the administration's penchant for politics over policy. "What you’ve got is everything -- and I mean everything -- being run by the political arm," DiIulio said. "It’s the reign of the Mayberry Machiavellis." DiIulio, like Kuo, endeared himself to conservatives by attacking Clinton. "During the Clinton impeachment drama, he beat the drum for Clinton's removal from office and decried the failure to do so as a signal of the 'paganization' of American political culture."

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One must wonder if Condi is finally going to come out of the closet where she also undoubtedly stores her broom.

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That little Jewish carpenter said: "As you do to the least of my brothers, so you do to me," or words to that effect. My message is that if you are going to quote the Bible, then quote ALL of it. You can't be "selective."

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Somehow I think the Republicans have enough sex scandals on their hands without doing that too!! ROFLMAO!!!

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I really don't see how evangelicals could be surprised by this outcome. It was all about politics and getting the Christian vote from the beginning. None of those politicians can be trusted. What we really do is vote and hope for the best and pray it doesn't come back to bite us in the butt.

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