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Tucker Carlson: '[E]lites in the Republican Party have pure contempt for the evangelicals'... [VIDEO]

Posted by Melissa McEwan at 6:50 AM on October 10, 2006.


The GOP's useful idiots...
Tucker on evangelicals

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Used, abused, and starting to figure it out:

TUCKER CARLSON: It goes deeper than that though. The deep truth is that the elites in the Republican Party have pure contempt for the evangelicals who put their party in power. Everybody in...

CHRIS MATTHEWS: How do you know that? How do you know that?

CARLSON: Because I know them. Because I grew up with them. Because I live with them. They live on my street. Because I live in Washington, and I know that everybody in our world has contempt for the evangelicals. And the evangelicals know that, and they're beginning to learn that their own leaders sort of look askance at them and don't share their values.

MATTHEWS: So this gay marriage issue and other issues related to the gay lifestyle are simply tools to get elected?

CARLSON: That's exactly right. It's pandering to the base in the most cynical way, and the base is beginning to figure it out.

Surely the conservative evangelical leaders like Falwell, Robertson, and Dobson, who dutifully lead their flocks to the GOP over and over in every election, know -- and have known for quite some time -- exactly what the game is. They serve as conduit for the "values" message and talk up the GOP, who then reward them with legislation that continues to make religion once of the best businesses in America. As The New York Times reported Sunday, since 1989 "more than 200 special arrangements, protections or exemptions for religious groups or their adherents were tucked into Congressional legislation, covering topics ranging from pensions to immigration to land use. New breaks have also been provided by a host of pivotal court decisions at the state and federal level, and by numerous rule changes in almost every department and agency of the executive branch." Evangelical leaders aren't hurting for a return on their investment; it's the voters, the people who genuinely expect a Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage, who are waking up to the reality that they've been suckered.

The question is: When will they realize that it's their leaders who delivered them for the suckering?

(Eschaton)

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Melissa McEwan writes and edits the blog Shakespeare's Sister.


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No Surprise
Posted by: sweetmorganlefey on Oct 10, 2006 7:42 AM   
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Tucker's comments come as no surprise to anyone who thinks things through. It's obvious the leadership of these organizations and the politicians who smooze them get rich on the backs of the folks who trust them to forward their conservative values. The politicians laugh at them behind their backs while they rake in their contributions. Their leadership continues to tell them what they want to hear all the while building huge homes and driving big cars. The current conservative Christian movement in North America is very similiar to the Catholic church building huge churches and amassing wealth on the backs of poor believers.

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» RE: No Surprise Posted by: monkeywrench
Lying down with GOP dogs
Posted by: kww355 on Oct 10, 2006 7:46 AM   
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The old adage says: "When you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas". Evangelicals have gotten their fleas in the person of Mark Foley. They've also gotten more than their share of the dog food, too, from the legislative crumbs they've been thrown.

Many of them know they're being used but don't care as long as they're getting those crumbs. Regardless of whether it's "making a deal with the devil", they are still advancing their agenda. I saw an interview with a minister in Tennessee yesterday who said he was still going to "hold his nose and vote Republican".

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I am very happy that "values voters"......
Posted by: tap17x on Oct 10, 2006 9:02 AM   
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....have been suckered, misled, lied to, and used by the rich corporate elite, because they deserve it for being so goddamn stupid. There's no real moral reason to ban gay marriage, limit gay rights, ban contraception or early abortion, or do any of the other red-meat things. If it were possible to administer it fairly, I'd favor a political intelligence test for all potential voters.

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Wow, that is super surprising
Posted by: helenwheels on Oct 10, 2006 9:05 AM   
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To hear out of Tucker Carlson's mealy mouth. Why wasn't he saying this years ago? Uh huh. Now all these "pundits" (and I use the term loosely with Carlson, he's just a mouthpiece, IMHO) are slowly slithering to the left because they see the people they've been backing for 6 years circling the drain. I wonder who's gonna jump on the bandwagon next?

I don't know if I trust this sudden bout of candor.

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The Religous Dupes
Posted by: magistre on Oct 10, 2006 9:13 AM   
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Now if we can only get the "little people" of the religous right to see that : "Not only does the King have no clothes on but his god is Mammon!".

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» Well said! Posted by: fool-on-the-hill
Gimme a break!
Posted by: bassman on Oct 10, 2006 10:21 AM   
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Anyone who believes that GW Bush is really a Christian is a sucker. Warmongering, lying and torture are NOT Christian values. Indeed, while there is warmongering in the old testament, the new testament is about love and forgiveness. Revelations is simply a warning on what will happen if fake Christians like GW have power...

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Starting to wake up?
Posted by: Vyking on Oct 10, 2006 10:34 AM   
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Well, welcome to 2006, Rip Van Winkles! It's only taken you 25 years to figure out what the rest of us did early in Reagan's first term.

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» RE: Starting to wake up? Posted by: Ellie1
» RE: Starting to wake up? Posted by: robmikejas
Of course!
Posted by: realist on Oct 10, 2006 11:42 AM   
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I first came to Washington nearly 25 years ago to work for a Republican House member. I remember a staff meeting when the congressman's chief of staff cautioned us to be careful about our comments in the office, because we were prone to have folks from groups like the Moral Majority passing through at any particular time.

"We don't have to give them everything they want, but we do need their vote," he told us. "They've got no place else to go, but they can stay home and not vote if we offend them."

That's exactly the mindset Tucker Carlson was talking about, and it's been around since the beginning of the "Reagan Revolution."

I would caution readers about some of their responses, however:

1) The attitude that evangelicals have come away empty-handed. While they haven't been given any of the constitutional amendments they wanted, they have been assuaged quite a bit through the regulatory process - such as the years of rejecting the approval of RU-486 - as well as through time-wasting distractions such as debates over flag-burning. People have been hurt and important issues crowded out of the agenda through such actions.

2) Calling evangelicals "idiots" is not going to help the progressive cause. You'll simply confirm the notion that they have no place to go. We don't have to cave in to their religious agenda, but we can and should look for secular areas where we have common ground - such as protecting God's creations from global warming and protecting employees from abusive tactics by fat cats.

For years, conservative leaders used wedge issues to divide black and white workers philosophically while employers sent their jobs overseas and then brought illegal aliens into the country to do their jobs.

Don't play into the distraction game by insulting these people. Figure out where it serves our purposes to work together. By doing so, we can give them reasons to consider alternatives and break up the notion that the GOP has a monopoly on religious-minded voters.

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» RE: Of course! Posted by: grumble-bum
» RE: Of course! Posted by: robmikejas
» RE: Well said Posted by: Techubus
Tucker Carlson
Posted by: Beth Wellington on Oct 10, 2006 2:21 PM   
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I don't know why you would be surprised that Tucker Carlson would go against type. Here is what he told the Washington Post about his prediction that Kerry would win in 2004:

" I think Iraq is the issue. Fifty years, when the history of 2004 is written, from now many of the debates we now consider deeply significasnt -- health care, stem cell research -- will rate as footnotes. Iraq will be its own chapter. It's a big deal. If Bush loses, it's because of Iraq, and that seems fair to me."

Carlson, alas, predicted the outcome incorrectly, although Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and others less famous, such as Dennis Loo, would tell you that Carlson's prediction was actually accurate; it was the voting process that went wrong.

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Jerry Falweel & You
Posted by: PollyTicks on Oct 11, 2006 3:55 AM   
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I believe that the elite on both sides of the political spectrum dislike the evangelicals. I don't think it's about God, I think it's more about reason...and "MOST" reasonable people think it is crazy to take the Bible (or any book) so literally. I saw Tucker on the Chris Matthews show on Sunday and kind of chuckled when I saw him at least be honest for once.

Nuff said? Mr. Dobson, Falwell and Robertson truly do have a huge segment of the public behind them, but they just are on a different level than the rest of us...for good or for bad.

Global Warming is real, Stem Cell research is necessary, War is not peace and Gays & Bi-Sexuals do not "choose" their sexual proclivity.

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» RE: Jerry Falweel & You Posted by: robmikejas