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Bush Unravels, Part II (Video)

Posted by Evan Derkacz at 7:53 AM on September 18, 2006.


Bush faces hypothetical torture scenario, Bush loses.
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In part II from a clip we posted earlier, watch what happens when Bush faces a direct question: If we interpret the Geneva Conventions in our own way, what's to stop Iran and North Korea from interpreting it in their own way when they capture our soldiers?

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Evan Derkacz is a New York-based writer and contributor to AlterNet.


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Glad to see this, but it is 5 years too late
Posted by: farhada on Sep 18, 2006 8:36 AM   
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It is nice that finally some reporters are showing some back bone to ask legitimate quesitons from your president, but the sad reality is that they are 5 years too late.

10s of thousands of innecont people have lost their lives in this disasterous conflict and there are no end to it.

Maybe and hopefully they will be able to stop the start of the next war with Iran or Syria.

/Farhad Abdolian

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» He gave an answer Posted by: Ouelle
Where is the medical community?
Posted by: hot_rad_man on Sep 18, 2006 9:50 AM   
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Any raving madman other than our president would be placed in a straight jacket and escorted to a mental hospital but no, we have to put up with this madman! I hate this country for that!

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» Where are the CITIZENS? Posted by: YinRising
Jesus H Christ
Posted by: rollo on Sep 18, 2006 11:53 AM   
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What the fuck is W talking about? Somebody doesn't have any clarity and I think we know who it is.

And his "hope" that "those countries you talked about" i.e. the terr'ists, will voluntary adopt our standards? WTF????

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My President insults my intelligence...
Posted by: djezi on Sep 18, 2006 12:41 PM   
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...daily.

That is all.

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what goes round
Posted by: lamzy on Sep 18, 2006 12:45 PM   
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If the US troops around the world could hear there commander and chief say"we need to torture others, so it is OK to torture our troops and citizens". The might just say go to h--l george, we are going home.
What goes round comes round.
lamzy

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I think I heard....
Posted by: custersbud on Sep 18, 2006 2:14 PM   
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the program's just "not going forward"......

What am I missing here? On one side we have a bunch of cowardly draft dodger arm chair generals who've never served a day in uniform determining how detainees are going to be treated (i.e. tortured), over the objections of people who know what war is all about, and actually experienced torture.

I dream of the day when Dumya and "No-neck" Cheney get hauled before an international tribunal to be held accountable for their crimes against humanity.

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GWB & CO = MOTHERLESS CHILDREN - YEP!
Posted by: Cathyc on Sep 18, 2006 3:00 PM   
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George Dubya and all his destructive Global-Warming kind are just a bunch of unloved kids. Yes, its true!!!!!!!!

What goes around comes around!

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lil hitler's hissy fit
Posted by: chanceny on Sep 18, 2006 4:00 PM   
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The only thing missing was Georgie-boy falling to the floor, kicking and screaming, banging his head and threatening to hold his breath till he turned blue. That's how he got his way working his special charms and bringing 'tizzies' to new heights with pearl-encrusted Barbara in his days of daze, before his 40th birthday, preceding his coming to Christ. The cowardly press corps seemed stunned, which I thought quite stunning. You'd figure they all knew the fumphering mood swinger was bonkers long ago. It's time the respectful tone and softball questioning goes the way of the dodo and balls reattach before the further ratchetting up of the fear flinging fiasco surely headed ur way, just over the horizon!

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» RE: lil hitler's hissy fit Posted by: harris
Bush's ...whatever the Hell it was...
Posted by: QuestionAuthority on Sep 18, 2006 4:01 PM   
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What the Hell did he say? Is there a high-lvel language expert that can parse that mess out for us? Was that even in English, for Chrissake?

Maybe that's how they talk and think in Texas. It would explain a lot. Alice in Wonderland has nothing on the Banana Republicans. And to think they're against recreational drugs. Maybe Dubya is their poster child for what drug and alcohol abuse can do to your brain cells?

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Unravel
Posted by: harris on Sep 18, 2006 4:02 PM   
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It's inaudible, but it seems that Gregory told Bush that he got unraveled. Bush seems to turn it around and says "Yes, it took you a long time to unravel..."

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» RE: Unravel Posted by: Gregor
» RE: Unravel Posted by: Lauren
What is vague about the Geneva Convention
Posted by: SgtCedar on Sep 18, 2006 4:18 PM   
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Bush claims he wants to change the law because the Geneva Conventions are too vague for soldiers to apply in the field. No one has thought they were too vague for all the years since the United States signed the treaty. As a retired NCO who had to teach the laws for war regularly in the National Guard I never had any trouble understanding what I was teaching. Some young soldiers thought anything goes in war. My explanation of why you must obey the law was the very same argument the reporter made. If you do not obey the laws and treaties signed by the nation you cannot expect any better treatment if you are captured yourself.

As someone who grew up in the fifties and sixties I remember the reation when the Soviet Union put on show trials. We could at least claim we were better than that. The United States has never complied fully with the Geneva Conventions and the laws of warefare (just ask the American Indians who's ancestors were given blankets infected with small pox). Still we have never tried to legalize our actions that failed the moral test.

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What does outrageous conduct upon human beings mean?
Posted by: BlueTex on Sep 18, 2006 7:07 PM   
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Listening to Bush is so much like a continuous feed Freudian Slip-a-thon. I love the way that he contradicts himself. In answer to the question about the moral basis of the war, he defended those of us who are questioning it as decent people...obviously, we are decent because we do question this war. He calls Al Quaida vicious because they kill "innocent women and children," but didn't we do that when we bombed the crap out of Fallujah? Did not Israel do that when they attacked Lebanon? I guess that makes us all vicious. He said also that he needs to know when Al Quaida is calling the US to make plans. Why? He knew last time, Germany, Russia and France told him and he did nothing...either that or he did not hear them because they were speaking a foreign language: English.

Finally, he said that we weren't going to ask young intell officers to go forward with his brilliant pro-torture idea unless it was legal. Legality has never stopped a Bush before, why should it now? Does this mean that he is going to ask old intell officers to torture? He also said that the world would be a better place if everybody used his standard on torture. That sounds an awful lot like: "I'd really like everybody to be torturing people, even our people, as long as we have laws that say it is okay."

He told us that these "tools" like torture are necessary. Based upon what? His extremely long military career of how many months and how many flights and how much "non-combat?"

What an ass! Please stop saying he's a Texan, we have better genes than that and we don't usually marry our first cousins by preference.

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Let's spread some lies....
Posted by: tap17x on Sep 18, 2006 7:31 PM   
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.....to counteract the lies of the Bushits. 1. Laura is secretly Bushit's sister; 2. W. is gay; 3. Barbara Bushit dropped W on his head when he was an infant, deliberately; 3. George Sr. had sex with a pig and W is the issue; 4. All of the above; 5. I swear on a pile of Bibles that they are all true. Please send this to all your friends.

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Chicken Geroge is dumping in his britches
Posted by: ccluelessfl60 on Sep 19, 2006 1:02 AM   
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I think one of the things that we are missing is Blackstone connection.The private mercenary force that the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld have hired to do the renditions are worried they could be dragged into the open.That quasi military force is all over the torture scandal.When they were trying the privates for torture, no one seemed to know who these men where or why they were giving instructions and doing the interrogations.Bush is scared all this secret illegal rendtions are going to come out, so he is s desaparte to do an end run around the laws,before the election. He knows what lies ahead if Dems and Progressives can get some power back.Since he is not a brave man fear is making him litterally sh-t his pants ,when the prospect of time in jail looms in the background.A lot of his old friends are getting charged and some convicted and they also thought they were above the law.

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W....WWW
Posted by: Chuckhoek on Sep 20, 2006 10:04 PM   
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Is there anyone out there who still believes that W is in charge of anything? This moron is living proof of what hands the USA would have been in had GHW Bush died in office; a scenario that inspired the (probably true) assumption that there was a gun trained uopn Quayle in case his boss died.

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saltysam
Posted by: saltysam on Sep 21, 2006 5:55 AM   
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Notice the little man DID NOT answer the question. By the standards he wants to make law, other countries will be free to kidnap, hold without charges, and torture, just like us! George is a coward and liar. Will our country survive this egomaniacal little man?

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Bush says he tortured a guy and found out about explosives in the WTC
Posted by: diggins on Sep 21, 2006 9:33 PM   
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