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Condi: Anti-war = Pro-slavery

Posted by Evan Derkacz at 6:48 AM on September 5, 2006.


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Secretary of State Condi Rice equated advocates for ending the Iraq War with those who would have allowed slavery to continue in an interview with Essence Mag:

I'm sure there are people who thought it was a mistake to fight the Civil War to its end and to insist that the emancipation of slaves would hold...
Steve Benen hits it right on the head: "to suggest, out loud, on the record, that critics of the war in Iraq are similar to those who would approve of slavery is perhaps the most breathtakingly stupid remark ever uttered by a Bush administration official. And given the competition, that's no easy feat."

The GOP campaign to up the black vote has failed woefully so they've apparently decided that it's time to open a can of whoopass on moderation. So be it. But anybody who believes this is gonna work has got another thing coming. And for those who don't see this as a crass redirection of Katrina outrage I've got this bridge to sell you... (Carpetbagger)

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Evan Derkacz is a New York-based writer and contributor to AlterNet.


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Unca Tom's Cabin
Posted by: Domokun on Sep 5, 2006 7:10 AM   
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Ummhmmm, Massa George shure do me right when Is shares his views in da public spawtliite. Ain't no cleenin's or beetin's dat day--bes' thang is Is not gonna be sold inna mornin'! In fack, Massa says if Is be rul good, Is gonna git a raize o' case quartuh. Yessuh! Mo' if I sings "Mammy" tonite affa dinnuh.

Hmmph, we'll if she's gonna play that game so horribly, then I will, too. Good thing I'm not an elected official.

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vitriolic nonsensical propaganda
Posted by: Wells on Sep 5, 2006 9:44 AM   
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Condi 'No one knew they'd use airplanes as missles' Rice is here acting true to form. She's one of the right wing's many in desperation dispensing official vitriolic nonsensical propaganda. Does she hate America? Evidently.

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This idiot for PRESIDENT?!
Posted by: monkeywrench on Sep 5, 2006 9:50 AM   
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Her latest excretion of verbal diarrhea just confirms Condoleeeeeeza Rice's status as poster girl for the inadequacy of a PhD. This effluent, added to the remarkable fact that she could not see how airplanes could be used as weapons, hints that either somebody else wrote her dissertation for her, or that she will tell any manner of lie to get ahead. Here's to hoping that she has "failed upwards" for the last time.

Condi's Triangle of Success: Stupid. Cruel. Dishonest. Pick any two (or all three.)

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» RE: This idiot for PRESIDENT?! Posted by: Roverton
» RE: This idiot for PRESIDENT?! Posted by: Ocean tides
We-e-ell, so Ms Rice wants to play the Civil War card, after discarding the Civil Rights Movement!
Posted by: fool-on-the-hill on Sep 5, 2006 10:10 AM   
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Even in an administration composed of incompetent jackasses, Condi takes first prize!

Her statement would be far beyond outrageous in any case. But it's a light year over the top coming from a black woman who has gone on record saying that the Civil Rights movement had no relevance for her family! (Why? Are they only pretending to be black?)

As usual when reading the latest revolting absurdity from the Bushites, I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or puke!

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GWOT=
Posted by: picaresque on Sep 5, 2006 11:05 AM   
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According to these bozos, the GWOT is equivalent to every other military challenge that the U.S. has ever been part of (except Vietnam, of course). Maybe the next thing they'll claim is that if Democrats had their way, Luke Skywalker would never have left Tattooine. There's about as much historical accuracy to that analogy as there is to the idea that Democrats are like those losers who didn't want to fight the Civil War.

Sit back & enjoy the increasingly desperate analogies that the Republicans will use to try & blame Democrats for their failing policies. Democrats are like Dr. Evil! Like Ted Bundy wrapped in Charles Manson! Like Hitler, only weaklings! Like, sputter, like...!

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Condi is fighting for her life,,,,
Posted by: John Rice on Sep 5, 2006 12:34 PM   
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,,,, figuratively and literally.

She knows how well the government usually protects and rewards its own, as well as the penalties for not being a "team player" and becoming instead what is now colloquially known as "collateral damage". With innocent dead now in the tens or hundreds of thousands, and war crimes tribunals a potential penalty, what is one more life (even hers) just to keep the whole thing going? (She may be many things, but she is not stupid.)

She knows if anyone either “crucially/provably” accidentally drops the ball or spills the beans in a very public manner, they could all be dead. She also knows she isn't alone or the first to have committed what should be easily proven treasonous acts without ever being held accountable for them. She, as a student of history, knows full well that American leaders are never held accountable for their covert deeds, regardless of political party—or who is in power in Congress at the time—and seemingly, regardless of how much proof there is of it. She also knows a contentious enveloping third party (www.neitherparty.org for example) could destroy both parties and their mutual lock on our nation’s directional tiller.

She knows that if Bush and the Reps go down, so will Clinton and the Dems and their hold on power. (The “informal” Republocratic bipartisan MAD (mutually assured destruction) “pact” whereby each party agrees not to expose the other for treasonous acts, allows them both to continue committing them.) It is now truly “one for all and all for one”. The Republocrats “cover” for each other as illustrated by the bogus 911 Commission Report, where we were convinced in a bipartisan manner to go back to bipartisan sleep.

In addition, she knows she is at least partially responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of innocents and her actions amply demonstrate she doesn’t really care. She knows she had to do what she did--not for the citizenry--not for the constitutional democracy or world peace or to satisfy the Constitution, but for her masters--our unfettered corporate economy, which ultimately is our driving force. Oh, yeah--and for her life.

As for the recent most-stupid-of-all-comment-she-made, I believe it is a matter of eroding composure due to panic setting in. For Condi, as well as for the rest of the Bush cabal, this is life or death—figuratively and literally—and she isn’t stupid—she and her co-conspirators know it.

Regards,,,John
(john_rice@neitherparty.org )

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Not all educated fools are sophomores.
Posted by: larry278 on Sep 5, 2006 2:33 PM   
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There is a rude urban legend that says PhD is an abbreviation for Piled Higher & Deeper. Is Dr Rice using her considerable talents to prove that this rude urban legend is a fact in her case?

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OK, Condi -
Posted by: tap17x on Sep 5, 2006 5:07 PM   
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G.W.Bush is 100 times worse than a combination of Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Atilla the Hun, Genghis Khan, and Mussolini.......... ................ Well, maybe not QUITE that bad, but if Condi can lie through her teeth, so can I. Maybe it's that big gap that lets the lies out! (She's fair game for personal insults.)

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I don't mean to be obnoxious
Posted by: popsicle67 on Sep 5, 2006 6:56 PM   
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But does all the smoke she is blowing up our asses make her the gap-toothed chicken-head of the administration.


___________

Legalize cloning, I wanna vote for Reagan again

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» But you are! Posted by: omatravel
No shame
Posted by: hellotjc on Sep 5, 2006 8:35 PM   
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The Bush admin. people know no shame. Rice's comment equating being anti-Iraq war to being pro-slavery is yet another example of both their glaring ignorance about everything and their willingness to use any tactic, regardless of how idiotic and mean-spirited, to attack their critics. By her comment, Rice lays to rest any suspicion that she has a brain.

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Valid Comment
Posted by: bullwhip7 on Sep 5, 2006 9:06 PM   
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The reference is to the fact that slavery and the civil war were quite controversial issues during the mid 1800's. The comparison is quite valid especially because many critiziced Lincoln for fighting the civil war, and especially after the war had been going for a while there was a cacophony of voices saying too many deaths, and stop the war. Cut and run.

Of course he didn't, and that is why we still have a United States.

So yah, it works. Stop the bullcrap.

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» RE: Valid Comment Posted by: mazel
» So yeah Posted by: Ouelle
There is no business like show business....
Posted by: mom'z the word on Sep 5, 2006 9:26 PM   
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Bush is a ventriloquist. Condi is his puppet. Stupid is as stupid does.

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Kattmanduu
Posted by: kattmann on Sep 5, 2006 10:09 PM   
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Wow Dumbya taught his lap-dog to speak. And he has enough trouble forming complete coherent sentences himself.
She is just another relic of the faux coldwar. She is brainwashed to fight the commies or whatever enemy the corporation says is out there. Just making noises to change our focus.
They are getting desperate and playing the race card again. That only shows just how low Dumbya will go. I bet he was good at the limbo.
Corporate slavery is what we have now and she can't see that. The house slaves always looked down upon the feild hands. She needs to call AAA to send a wrecker to pull her head out. Or do they need to bring the jumper cables too?
Or she is trying out for the position as the goalie for the Artic water polo team.

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Condi Rice
Posted by: Ellie1 on Sep 6, 2006 6:06 AM   
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makes me want to bring back the N word.

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» RE: Condi Rice Posted by: perri6
Condi Comments
Posted by: sunlakedude on Sep 6, 2006 7:23 AM   
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It's obvious that the Bush Admin is grasping for straws. No matter how many times Bush or any of his cabinet utter Iraq and Terrorism in the same sentence the people who voted them in are coming out of the coma/spell of fear, subliminal association and the outright distortion of this Administration. I still think Impeachment and prosecution for breaking the Law should be put forth. Really the entire administration is guilty of at least one major crime and most are guilty of dozens. It's an insult to the history of the struggle that led African-Americans out of slavery and to demand civil rights for her to equate opposition to the Iraq War & Occupation with being pro-slavery. Do you think Rove dreamt that one up?

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Sir
Posted by: shadini on Sep 6, 2006 11:13 AM   
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Hey, fellas, don't blame the Ph. D. Condi slipped by just about everyone because she's African-American and female in a world of greedy and evil white men!! Window is overdressed! Can't see the merchandise inside. Stanford ought to be ashamed not seeing thru Condi's incompetence and sorrowful lack of intelligence. So much for image, eh? The search for image will do it everytime. She plays the piano while the ME burns, she talks about 'birth pangs' of democracy when, as far as we know, never gave birth. And her delivery? Basic Republican generalities, and hogging of the mike. Here's the M.O. She states 2 or 3 basic points and repeats them repeatedly thruout the interview or presentation regardless of the probes, the attempts to make some sense out of what she is saying. She lays the propagands groundwork and refuses to answer the simplest questions, reminding the questioner of the greater arena within which the problem lay, allowing a seguay into another generality, another repetition of the spin-points until before you know it, she's said nothing but makes you feel like you've missed the whole show. Well, show it is, but where's the tell!? And when she finishes obfuscating enough, she hogs the floor and tells you what you need to know before you ask the question. Oh, she's good! But, unhappily, there's nothing there and if one pushes hard enough, the image of 'black and female' trumps!!

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Can I be slogan writer too?
Posted by: medbear on Sep 11, 2006 1:43 PM   
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Dear Mr. President.

I have registered a few statements made by Your advisors and secretaries (the "of state" kind, not the dear old lady in your ante room) and, truly, by Yourself, Mr. President.

Since my current job pays a little less than my wife appreciates, I wonder if there might be a position open for yet another slogan writer with Your staff?

To prove my value, I have attached a few new ones, free of charge to use, Mr. President, if You should so decide. If I hear these slogans in the next few days, I will happily accept that as a confirmation of employment with Your staff. As for the question of pay, I will be satisfied with anything making it possible for me to buy that nice GM SUV, and still be able to manage my mortgage. And a few nights out each week - and please, if You could, make the VP call my wife and tell her I work long nights when that is necessary. She's such a fan of that deep manly drawl.

Suggestion 1; On environmental issues:

"Those that fronts the scares of this so called "global warming" are longing back to the ice age". (OK, not my best, but then the issue isn't so damned hot really (notice that natural double pun? i'm gifted, I tell you, Mr. President), once someone manages to send Al Gore to the N'guru-guru islands of the West Whocares - with no return ticket).

Suggestions 2; On gay issues:

"Real men doesn't use lotion or drink from a straw. We drink straight from the glass and shed in silence!". (I thought of Mr. Rumsfeld here, he seems like that sort of guy. Seems like he polishes his glasses a lot, though, could we make him stop doing that? For authentic veneer, I mean?).

"Gay marriage is something advocated only by those that can't run fast enough to catch a decent peace of sheep/pig/possum/gator/rat" (A little rough and direct, wouldn't you say, Mr. President? A bit John Wayne, if he had lived today, I mean, standard of language and all. Must be for someone with some balls. That rules out your press secretary, and Mrs. Rice obviously, but You decide. I've opened up for options, so You or Your chosen one can adapt the slogan to where you're at. Even one for your brother as you can see).

"Why do lesbians have to look so damned ugly! It is unamerican!" (I wouldn't want for the VP to say this, of course, bless his daughter, but the rest of Your lot .... feel free).

Suggestion 3: On Homeland Security:

"Do you want to expose decent americans to the days of senator McCarthy? 'Cause if you don't let us have access at will to peoples every secret, the next McCarthy is sure to come forward, and then we will all focus on the commies again, and the terrorists will have free access while we look the other way! Do you want that? Do you want the columnists to take our faces away from the trombonists?" (I hope You notice, Mr. President, that not only have I made use of some historically and logically brilliant deductions, but also included some charming misspellings for You, just like the media likes).

Yours Sincerely

Mr Ursa Medica

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» Shame on me Posted by: medbear