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Murtha: Civil war

Posted by Evan Derkacz at 8:37 AM on January 13, 2006.


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Claims of civil war have been thrown about for months now. It is... it isn't... not yet... soon... maybe next Tuesday... since forever...

Rep. John Murtha, who made headlines -- and some enemies -- last month by standing up on the House floor and making the case for a phased and strategic withdrawal (not, as was charged, an immediate one), revisits the point. In a blog.

"93 percent of those fighting in Iraq are Iraqis. A very small percentage of the fighting is being done by foreign fighters. Our troops are caught in between the fighting. 80 percent of Iraqis want us out of there and 45 percent think it is justified to kill American troops."

These are compelling factors, to be sure, but the more convincing argument for the damage we're causing, the futility of the Bush doctrine in Iraq, is that every step toward anything resembling democracy is actually a step toward theocracy and increased division -- and thus, away from democracy. You see the problem.

"Iraqis went to the polls in droves on December 15th and rejected the secular, pro-democracy candidates and those who the Administration in Washington propped up... According to General Vines, the top operational commander in Iraq, 'the vote is reported to be primarily along sectarian lines, which is not particularly heartening.' The new government he said 'must be a government by and for Iraqis, not sects.'"

Before we lionize Murtha, as some in the comments section over the Huffington Post have done, it should be noted that while this courageous effort should be lauded and supported, it would've been nice if he'd used his considerable hawkish clout to make this point beforehand, when those opposed to war made this exact same argument. But still...

Murtha ends with this call: "It is time to re-deploy our troops and to re-focus our attention on the real threats posed by global terrorism." (HuffPost)

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Posted by: the islander on Jan 13, 2006 8:37 AM   
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Maybe that's why Bush invaded -- because he wanted to get rid of the secular regime. Maybe that's why he likes what's going on there. Are we looking in the mirror?

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Murtha and others who have a change of heart
Posted by: beltane on Jan 13, 2006 11:09 AM   
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Thank you, Evan, for cautioning those who would "lionize Murtha." You're so right that "it would have been nice" to hear these thoughts before the illegal and unwarranted invasion of Iraq. Where were these patriots then? Advocating the U.S.'s first full-scale invasion of a sovereign nation, that's where. I have older friends who are combat veterans of WWII (yes, there are still a few left). They were absolutely appalled at draft-dodger Bush's plans to invade Iraq. I know that the nazi analogy is much discredited in contemporary discourse, but it was these wizened old warriors who said to me, regarding the invasion, "that's what Hitler did, not what Americans do."

I feel about Murtha the same way I feel about the grief-stricken mother in Michael Moore's Farenheit 911. You remember her, she had eagerly sent her own children off to join the military and urged others to do the same. Then she lost a son to the war machine and suddenly had a change of heart. I mourn the loss of her child, but I would ask her: What the hell did you think was going to happen? Grandly waving flags? Glory? Righteousness?

This war was wrong and stupid and unnecessary, and a whole lot of us said so from the beginning. Now you see it our way? A little late for the thousands of dead and maimed and grieving, don't you think?

Anyone who supported this war in the beginning and now regrets it needs to say so, clearly and aplogetically. The republidorks insisted that Clinton show contrition for his grievous sin of lying about a consensual sexual relationship. Those who were gleefully willing to kill and dismember tens of thousands of people need to get down on their knees and pray for forgiveness, and they need to do it as publicly as they waved their stupid goddamned flags. I want to see magnetic bumper sticker ribbons that say "God forgive me, I voted for Bush."

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