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Video: Tancredo Storms Off MSNBC Set, "Insulted" by Markos Moulitsas

Posted by Adele Stan, AlterNet at 3:24 PM on November 7, 2009.


The former Colorado congressman demanded an apology from Moulitsas for reference to his Vietnam War deferment.
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In a raucus Friday-night segment on MSNBC's The Ed Show, Markos Moulitsas, founder of the Daily Kos, and former Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo had at each other over Thursday's Capitol Hill rally against President Obama and the Democrats' health-care bill.

After a spirited back-and-forth over the offensive signs -- like the one snapped by Think Progress' Lee Fang that labeled as "National Socialist Heath Care" a photograph of a pile of corpses from the Dachau concentration camp, or the one captured by AlterNet that asked "KEN-YA TRUST OBAMA" -- and rhetoric from the Capitol steps, the topic came of the medical system administered by the Department of Veterans Affairs. After Tancredo characterized the Democratic health care bill as "socialism", guest host David Shuster asked, "What about the V.A.? That's single payer."

Tancredo replied that veterans complain about problems with their V.A. care all the time, and saying that they'd rather have vouchers to use to pay for private health care. Moulitsas began to laugh, and Tancredo said, "Talk to the veterans; they talked to me, and that's what they said."

"Tom, I'm a veteran," Moutitsas replied. "I did not get a deferment because I was too depressed to fight in the war I supported in Vietnam."

Tancredo was an ardent supporter of the Vietnam War, but when his student deferments ran out, he failed his physical, he said, when he told recruiters he had been treated for depression, according to the Denver Post.

"That's a cheap, rotten, stupid thing to say," Tancredo charged. With that, he demanded an apology from Moulitsas, saying he wasn't going sit there and let " you try to insult me that way." When Moultisas refused to apologize, Tancredo pulled out his earpiece and left the set. Guest host David Shuster, who opened the show with a passionate commentary about the rally and, especially, the Dachau sign, invited Tancredo to return to the show.

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Adele M. Stan is AlterNet's Washington editor.


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Careful where you walk.
Posted by: Longdream on Nov 7, 2009 4:00 PM   
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Tancredo's marbles are rolling around all over the place.

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Hawks who had "other things to do" when others fought
Posted by: dogwhisperer on Nov 7, 2009 7:06 PM   
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Tancredo is just like Cheney and others, who couldn't be bothered to put up -- but can't be caused to shut up. Do we ever really bother to check "credentials" anymore? Or does a jerk getting pissed off mean nobody can actually look at facts?

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Ed's idea? or MSNBC's insistence?
Posted by: wwittman on Nov 8, 2009 12:42 AM   
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I'd like to know WHY The Ed Show "needs" the right-wing talking points guys

is it his own idea?
or does MSNBC insist on the faux "balance"?


I get the feeling it's the former.

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» RE: Probably @ MSNBC's insistence. Posted by: Sister_Lauren
I cant get flash player to work
Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Nov 8, 2009 7:03 AM   
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And if I try to log on to MSNBC, my browser Safari quits.

Isn't that interesting?

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» Ever heard of a bug, genius? Posted by: GuitarBill
ROFLMAO!
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Nov 8, 2009 7:39 AM   
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The truth - that Wingnuts like T are pathological liars, hypocrites, fascists and generally beyond reason is insulting to the likes of Tancredo.

Well done, Marcos.

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» RE: Tancredo's challenge Posted by: Sister_Lauren
Soldiers complain about their health care through the VA?
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Nov 8, 2009 1:42 PM   
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Thats funny, Tom... because people, and likely a greater percentage than soldiers going to the VA complain about their healthcare... mostly because they can't afford it and what they can afford in terms of insurance is usually just a complete racket that squeezes a profit out of their policy holders by denying care or reducing the level of care available.

Insurance companies are not the only ones who could use some reform shoved down their throats, but they are the only ones who are middlemen who don't provide any actual medical services.

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David could barely contain his amusement and Marcos
Posted by: desidid on Nov 8, 2009 5:41 PM   
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openly laughed then refused to apologize. It was truly a brilliant television moment.

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Must MSNBC Scrap the bottom of the Bucket of Intellectual discourse??
Posted by: Purple Girl on Nov 9, 2009 6:45 AM   
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Granted that seems to be all that is left in the Repug party 'officials' but there must be at least some sane and lucid old School Republicans hiding somewhere in DC.
Why must we listen to the moronic stylings of this loser? Worse yet be subjected to the All Time loser himself the archaic senile Pat Buchcanan.
I realize that scheduling these cartoon characters earns rating and works to discredit the Repugs further, but it's also an insult to Dems to dumbdown the conversation to their base 'logic'. I'm not only insulted, I'm bored. I've heard this BS rhetoric for about 30 yrs. We've been there Done that and now we are suffering the consequences. Stop giving these village idiots the plateform, it's driving away the audience you are trying to attract as well.
Allowing these representatives of the Crazed and Corrupt Right air time legitamizes a doctrine which has been proven to be hazardous to this country.
Besides juxtapoling the guests ideologies is doing a disservice to the majority in the middle.Those of US who are able to contemplate the nuances of the proposed legislation, even if it is nearly 2000 pages. Come on, 219 pages screams lack of oversight and corp loopholes. Who've decide they are not ready for a Universal gov't run program, but realize something must be done.
I've grown weary of MSNBC because it's become the contest of the Rejected.

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