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Health Insurance Companies Want You to Stop Reproducing, or Pay the Price

Posted by Robin Marty, RH Reality Check at 4:25 PM on October 13, 2009.


According to some companies, costs should stay manageable as long as you make "healthy lifestyle choices." So much for having kids...

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From RH Reality Check

Having our first child was one of the greatest moments of my husband’s and my life together.  Once we adjusted to being parents, we knew that at some point we would want to expand our family.  When we found out 7 weeks ago that we were expecting again, we couldn't have been more excited.

The longer we have been parents, the more we have become planners, especially financially.  I made a goal of paying off my student loans before our first was born, literally writing that last check two weeks before her due date.  That payment quickly became a 529 account.  We became frantic savers, opening online accounts, IRAs, anything we could sock our money into.  When we decided to try for a second child, we made sure to first set aside the $3000 it would cost us out-of-pocket to pay for the birth, $1500 out-of-pocket max for me, and $1500 max for the new baby.

This weekend my husband broke the news to me -- his company would be switching to a new health insurance plan starting in January.   As we looked through the brochures, it jumped out at me immediately that our out-of-pocket expenses were skyrocketing.  Instead of the $3000 family out-of-pocket maximum we were preparing for, we were now expected to pay $6000 for the full family, a 100 percent increase.

We've yet to be given full information, such as if his monthly payments will be increasing as well (something I'm worried about, as the preliminary paperwork shows no sign of his company continuing to contribute monthly, instead offering a $1000 HSA account).   Assuming that his payment per month is the same and the company is indeed offering $1000 on top of that, he will still be paying over 10% of his pre-tax income just to pay our family's health care costs.  If they have pulled their monthly assistance, that could go up to as much as 20%.

We recognize that we are lucky people.  With two incomes and no real debt, we should have no major difficulties saving the additional $3000 we might need for our new arrival in May.  But we know that many people aren't in our situation.  Having a child should be a joyous occasion, not a time that can potentially plummet a family deep into debt. 

According to the new insurance company, your health care costs should never be much as long as you are making "healthy lifestyle choices."  My question for the insurance industry is, when did wanting to add to your family become an unhealthy lifestyle choice? 

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And idiots rail against single-payer because??????
Posted by: wrinklemomma on Oct 13, 2009 6:57 PM   
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I read this stuff and I keep asking why there are average Americans fighting the implementation of single-payer healthcare?????? How can Congress people fight the will of the majority of people who are in favor of single-payer? Why do we allow an industry that exists SOLELY to make profit off of our suffering and needs to continue to set the terms of the debate and define the solution. ENOUGH, dammit, ENOUGH!!!!! Time to put the insurance industry back in its LIMITED place and do what is right for ALL Americans. SINGLE_PAYER NOW, before there is no tomorrow.

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White House Communications Director Anita Dunn:The rest of the story
Posted by: American Pride on Oct 13, 2009 8:01 PM   
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Some facts conveniently ignored by Dunn and the author of this article: "As for Dunn's complaint about Fox News' coverage of the Obama campaign, a study by the Pew Research Center showed that 40 percent of Fox News stories on Obama in the last six weeks of the campaign were negative. Similarly, 40 percent of Fox News' stories on Obama's Republican opponent, Sen. John McCain, were negative.

On CNN, by contrast, there was a 22-point disparity in the percentage of negative stories on Obama (39 percent) and McCain (61 percent.

The disparity was even greater at MSNBC, according to Pew, where just 14 percent of Obama stories were negative, compared to a whopping 73 percent of McCain stories -- a spread of 59 points.


I have listened to both Talk America and Fox News. Getting Fox News off the air, as someone suggested, is not the answer. Freedom of Speech is one of the rights that makes this country great.

When anyone suggests taking this or that station off the air they need to stop and think "Wait a minute, that could be my favorite station someone is suggesting the government take off the air".

Not a good move!

Be skeptical about what the government and the press is saying on any subject - left or right, liberal or conservative they nearly all slant the news in their favor and ONLY tell you what they want you to hear!,

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Sorry little sympathy here
Posted by: cmaciain on Oct 14, 2009 4:50 AM   
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You have good jobs, both of you, and no debt and no crisis has hit your family. Sorry if I'm not going to cry for you. I'm unemployed and uninsured and considering how breeders like the author get to claim tax deductions for children, send their kids to public school which childfree people will pay for, and if they have problems can run to DHS and get money, food stamps, and everything else under the sun while childfree can not, no pity. You also can suck at the social security tit if hubby or wife dies while same sex couples are in the street because they get no benefits.

I agree single payer is the way to go but listening to this boo hoo from the wealthy is nauseating. Whiny rich people.

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» I knew it Posted by: stormchilde1975
I Thought
Posted by: JSquercia on Oct 14, 2009 6:44 AM   
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I thought that the article was somewhat misleading in that as far as I can see the Insurance Company did NOT specifically target people having Children but instead raised the deductible on everyone . I think it is most certainly an outrageous increase but it doesn't target prospective parents . On the other hand I believe I have read that some companies consider Pregnancy a "pre-existing condition . That to me IS discriminating against people trying to have children .

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HIGH EXPECTATIONS
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Oct 14, 2009 8:23 AM   
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So your're trying to get it all right. About the 'stashing money': you're not stashing you're investing. Mostly tax advantaged stuff, but you are not saving, you are investing. We all know that story. As a family grows, insurance premiums increase. They always have. More people, higher risk. It sounds as though you want to be rewarded for your exemplary behavior and for being responsible. It doesn't work that way. Most of the people now in serious trouble, a few short years ago were exactly where you are right now. You sound a little miffed at being like everyone else. ANNA

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Private Insurance is a racket.
Posted by: luzmejor on Oct 14, 2009 8:52 AM   
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That's why we are striving for a single payer plan and a lot more transparency in accounting.

We should never allow any privacy for private interests. They should always be tightly audited by independent companies.

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The Hat tackles healthcare
Posted by: siobhanbarry on Oct 15, 2009 4:14 PM   
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The hat tackles public healthcare

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9EUQnHGKoM

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So Much FOr "Pro-Life"
Posted by: Eric.Arthur.Blair on Oct 20, 2009 11:53 AM   
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It sounds like the insurance industry wants to encourage contraception and abortion. Isn't that a great "family value"?

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I agree
Posted by: Ellie1 on Oct 21, 2009 7:35 PM   
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No couple should have more than 2 children. The world is overpopulated. China has the right idea.

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If you want either single-payer, or the public option--
Posted by: jvaljon1 on Oct 21, 2009 7:39 PM   
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Then get into the streets and MARCH FOR IT!!!

No revolution ever came by itself. And as for cost??

Most of us will agree--the American People have more than paid enough, for decent healthcare.

I don't know about you, but I'm strapping on my marching shoes. I didn't work all my life, only to leave my kids--yeah they're grown but SO WHAT?!--this Health (NOT!!) 'Insurance' rip-off BULLSHIT!

And I'm not blaming Obama for this, either. He's barely been in power ONE YEAR. This crap took EIGHT YEARS to develop, in all its glory.
In short, the nation's sick. Open wide, folks, and swallow down the Single Payer medicine. It's coming anyway.

And Americans look a lot better taking their medicine, than we do, bending over for the Health Insurance business and their Demo-Publican lackeys.

Let's all try to remember that, next Election Day, when it'll be time once more to go to the polls and do us some Senate Cleaning. (Like we did in the House and the Executive Branch, last time.)

That, is an absolute MUST. That, and to maintain our House and Executive Branch, majorities.

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