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The Stupidity of "Zero-Tolerance": 6-Year-Old Suspended For Bringing Food Utensil to School

Posted by Allison Kilkenny, True/Slant at 7:00 AM on October 12, 2009.


What can this teach us about U.S. foreign policy? Quite a lot, actually.

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NEWARK, Del. -- Finding character witnesses when you are 6 years old is not easy. But there was Zachary Christie last week at a school disciplinary committee hearing with his karate instructor and his mother's fiancé by his side to vouch for him.
Zachary’s offense? Taking a Cub Scout utensil that can serve as a knife, fork and spoon to school. He was so excited about joining the Scouts that he wanted to use it at lunch. School officials concluded that he had violated their zero-tolerance policy on weapons, and Zachary now faces 45 days in the district's reform school.

via It’s a Fork, It’s a Spoon, It’s a … Weapon? -- NYTimes.com

When great tragedy happens in this country (say, planes flying into towers or two young men shooting up their high school,) Americans typically react in the following fashion:

  1. Freak the fuck out
  2. Believe whatever the loudest politician tells them
  3. Assign blame to a convenient, but usually incorrect target
  4. Participate in a reactive, hyper-totalitarian government policy
  5. Repeat at next tragedy

The list applies to the post-9/11 hysteria, but it also applies to post-Columbine America. "Zero-tolerance" policy arose from the string of shooting sprees in American high schools. As usual, schools did not thoughtfully analyze what kind of school environment (complete with hierarchical sects and rampant bullying) is inspiring such horrific shootings. Rather, schools followed steps 1 through 5, and opted for a hyper-totalitarian state within a state where children are all treated as suspects, including little Zachary Christie.

Really, Delaware? The six-year-old is going to shank someone with his Swiss Army knife? Such overzealous, reactionary policies distract from the very real problems in schools: low test scores, budget cuts, bullying, and so on.

In Going Postal, author Mark Ames looks at the phenomenon of school and workplace shootings in America, but rather than assigning blame to obvious (and incorrect) targets like Marilyn Manson, Ames digs deeper. He proposes that modern workplace and school violence emerged soon after Reaganomics began in the 1980s when the wealth divide widened, and Reagan did everything in his power to support his friends, the CEOs of corporations, while screwing the workers. The result is a corporate culture where Americans work harder for longer hours for less. They have no job security, are buried in debt, and occasionally one of them snaps and shoots their co-workers.

Ames argues -- quite convincingly -- that schoolyard and office massacres are modern-day slave rebellions. The overly oppressive and exploitive nature of hyper-Capitalism, the neutering of unions, and the overall degradation of employees, neighborhoods, communities, and society have resulted in a culture of fear and violence. While Bowling For Columbine blamed the guns, Ames blames the culture, which includes reactionary policies like "Zero tolerance" that end up hurting innocents like Zachary while the real causes of our sick society go untreated.

Even if one doesn't buy the "Blame Reagan" theory, Ames's solution of treating the sickness, and not just the symptoms, is compelling enough to warrant some kind of implementation. The opposite approach, which is the current "solution" of treating workers and students like suspects, is an excellent way to breed more paranoia, fear, and violence. If kids weren't ready to snap before, a day of bag inspections, metal detector, and locker searches guarantees they’ll at least hate their schools if not harbor fantasies of putting down their oppressors.

Furthermore, the problem goes deeper than the workplaces and schools. The culture itself is sick, which is why America has a military budget that is almost as much as the rest of the world’s defense spending combined, and is over nine times larger than the military budget of China, and yet Americans feel more afraid, and more paranoid, than ever. Everyone is against us, we're told. Everyone hates our freedom, and our amazing culture. China wants to overtake us. The entire Middle East wants us dead. Europeans laugh at us, and think we’re stupid. Emperor Penguins are plotting something. Canada is about to attack.

And then there's Iran. Don't even get us started on Iran.

Until Americans decide to break this addiction to "The List," this cycle of irrationality will continue into the foreseeable future. Sadly, it doesn't seem as though Americans or their politicians remember the catastrophic mistakes that led to the invasion of Iraq because they’re repeating the exact same behavior with Iran. Let's consult "The List." Are American’s freaking out? Check. Do they believe what the loudest politicians tell them (namely that Iran is an imminent threat to the US)? Check. Are they participating in a reactive hyper-totalitarian government policy? According to the Pew Research Center, a strong majority -- 61% -- of Americans say that it is more important to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons, even if it means taking military action. Check.

It appears as though Americans are one trumped-up confrontation away from supporting a full-scale attack on a country with a population of 65 million people (more than two thirds of the population are under 30-years-old). Scary stuff.

Rather than looking closely at their country's imperialist, bullying behavior, Americans are quick to blame Iranians for pursuing nuclear technology. But why shouldn't they? Iran needs power, and concerning defense, how else is a nation to react when a psychotic western empire invaded its neighboring country six years ago? By laying down their weapons, or by ratcheting up their defenses?

Iranian leaders would have to be positively suicidal to ever, ever nuke Israel or any other country, since the US would vaporize them, but that reality never comes up. Another topic that never seems to come up is the fact that Israel has nuclear weapons. Lots of them. Although no official statistics exist, it has been estimated that Israel possesses between 60 to 400 thermonuclear weapons. So Iran has hostile enemies all over the place. If it was any other country, the United States would probably applaud them for defending their borders.

Alas, Iran is on the "Axis of Evil," and so we pretend that Israel has no nuclear weapons (purchased with US taxpayer money,) and that Iran has no right to protect its citizens. As a result, the options of diplomacy and containment are treated as sweet, idealistic notions, but the chant of "bomb, bomb, bomb" forever drowns out rational discourse.

Zachary Christie should not be sent to reform school. His parents should give him a strong talking to about how knives are not toys. "Zero tolerance" is a stupid idea whether we're dealing with a little boy or a nation of 65 million people. Showing tolerance is a good thing especially when dealing with children, who frequently mess up and need to be given second chances. Schools are not boot camps, and children need to be shown compassion and love, or they will never offer their fellow citizens similar kindness when they develop into fully formed humans. If you show children nothing but cruelty, and intolerance, then they repeat that behavior and grow up to become Republicans.

Similarly (although on a macro scale,) America should not bomb Iran. Diplomacy should be given preferential treatment, and America should stop policing the world. Everyone needs to calm down because, thus far, freaking out and bombing the planet have not yet brought us peace. Let's give rational debate and self-examination a chance.

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Tagged as: iran, mark ames, zero tolerance, fearmongering, culture of fear, zachary christie

Allison Kilkenny co-hosts Citizen Radio, the alternative political radio show. G. Gordon Liddy once told her her writing makes him want to vomit, which is the greatest compliment she's ever been paid, ever.


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Bowling for Columbine
Posted by: WyrdSister on Oct 12, 2009 7:43 AM   
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Brief History of the USA Amerkans are scart!

instead of trying to deal with the symptoms, let's look at WHY things like this happen and deal with the CAUSES. I know, that's WAY to common sensical to be even thought of since Common Sense went by way of the DoDo.

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» RE: Bowling for Columbine Posted by: Kitty Lady Oregon
» RE: Bowling for Columbine Posted by: VZEQICVA
» RE: Bowling for Columbine Posted by: websurfer
» RE: Bowling for Columbine Posted by: DaBear
» RE: Bowling for Columbine Posted by: Quannah
A COUNTRY OUT OF CONTROL
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Oct 12, 2009 8:04 AM   
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We are unable to control the important things such as: police brutality, random shooting, violence in general, drugs,alcohol, out of control driving, and a steadily declining lifestyle. All of this causes us to be afraid. It's out of our control. But a little kid who has a fork or spoon in school has to be dealt with. Something called "Zero Tolerance", which is nothing more than a very lazy way to determine just how wrong the kid is. If at all. The major problems we have, some of which I named earlier are tolerated very well every single day. It's almost a national form of bullying. Make sure the person you're accusing of anything has no way to defend him/herself. Someone very young, very old, poor, etc, Anyone who can't afford a 'dream team' of lawyers is fair game. That's when 'Zero Tolerance' applies. I can't even imagine what this little kid is thinking. Maybe someone should ask. ANNA

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» RE: A COUNTRY OUT OF CONTROL Posted by: andrushka
» RE: A COUNTRY OUT OF CONTROL Posted by: websurfer
Abdication of responsibility
Posted by: Hiroak on Oct 12, 2009 8:27 AM   
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Zero Tolerance is an abdication of responsibility plain and simple. We pay these ninnies to make sound, reasonable, and measured decisions. A couple of tylenol do NOT equal a gram of coke, meth etc... just as a six year old with a new cool tool does not equal a gangbanger.

Now we have a kid that has an experience with authority that tells him "trust no one in authority" because they are idiots. I have taught my children that Cops, teachers, principals, etc... are NOT your friends and you are NOT to tell them anything if a confrontation should occur without me, your mother or our lawyer present. This policy has served us and them well.

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» RE: Abdication of responsibility Posted by: Sister_Lauren
I agree that this is out of hand, but ...
Posted by: i_17bingo on Oct 12, 2009 8:46 AM   
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These school officials have to babysit a generation of children whose parents are either criminally negligent or criminally overbearing; they have to justify their school's very existence with high test scores; they have to confront an increasingly litigious and increasingly violent culture, all the while being criticized for every choice they make. No wonder they're overreacting. I wouldn't be able to do their jobs or make their decisions for them.

It's clear that these policies have gone horribly awry, and I hope someone can strike the balance between protecting children and ruining their lives out of fear.

Also, unless I'm completely wrong (and there's nothing in the Times article that says otherwise), what this kid brought to school was a Swiss Army knife. That means he brought a knife to school, and that is not okay. Forty-five days of reform school is monstrously excessive, but there should be some kind of discipline here.

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» a knife??? Posted by: Drclaw
» RE: a knife??? Posted by: DaBear
» Big damn deal Posted by: Hiroak
» RE: Big damn deal Posted by: Beadmaster
» RE: Big damn deal Posted by: DaBear
Punish a 6 yr old?? Let's charge him as an adult, get DHS involved,
Posted by: dingham on Oct 12, 2009 9:29 AM   
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see if we can get some federal charges.
Lets find out if the "reform school" is privately owned, like the Juvy hall in PA, do the officials/judges have a fiduciary interest?Good god zero tolerance is fascism or as the author noted, totaltarism. They even have zero tolerance for "thought", and feel totally free assigning "intent" or "conspiracy" if you even look at a web site or check out a book that the authorities have singled out.
And right on the money, we teach kids, if they are teachable, to not trust an adult.

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ok then, let's see, a pen is a weapon we should ban pens too !
Posted by: ladyveteran on Oct 12, 2009 9:41 AM   
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Where is REASON, where is practicality, where is common sense? Hey, I learned in my training that a pen, or pencil, or ruler, or even a piece of paper or a book can be a weapon. Perhaps we should ban them too. A shoe, a sock, a bandana, a scarf, a ball bat, a ... you get the picture. This is NUTS.

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Perfection
Posted by: DreamFast on Oct 12, 2009 10:12 AM   
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"If you show children nothing but cruelty, and intolerance, then they repeat that behavior and grow up to become Republicans."

I'd be ROFLOL if this statement weren't so goddamned true.

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» RE: Perfection Posted by: MT512
the criminalization of youth
Posted by: Drclaw on Oct 12, 2009 12:09 PM   
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read some of the recent work of Henry Giroux on this stuff. Schools have become mini-penal institutions, both philosophically (in terms of how one is to respond to transgressions) as well as materially (the sorts of official actions to which children are subjected). And then, we wonder why people grow up as ticking time bombs ready to lay waste to their co-workers or simply, acquaintances. If we should survive, I wonder how we'll be interpreted by future generations? The most charitable would be a judgment of mass, temporary insanity as a result of a (near) lethal combination of pollution, stress and reality TV.

(just joking the the tv, btw-but I bet you took that seriously...what does that tell you..?)

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» RE: the criminalization of youth Posted by: permanentilt
Deb
Posted by: debmcd on Oct 12, 2009 12:14 PM   
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Really? Reform School? Seriously? This is the biggest joke I've ever heard. He's a six year old child for Christ's sake. Zero tolerance is a most stupid idea when dealing with children. STUPID STUPID IDEA. Leave the kid alone and let his parents deal with this horrible, tremendous, life altering crisis of bringing a boy scout utinsil to school. Either that or send him right to Atica.

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» RE: Deb Posted by: MT512
Zero tolerance = zero intelligence
Posted by: UnEasyOne on Oct 12, 2009 12:20 PM   
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"God made an idiot for practice and then he made a school board." Mark Twain.

These cretins actually "educate" our kids!

And we wonder "why Johnny can't read." I am amazed that Johnny can tie his freakin shoes!

I can kill you with a pencil, with a lock and a sock; with dozens of other permitted items. When I was in school, I carried a knife. It looked impressive and I actually pulled it on a guy once. He had bullied me for a year and a half in Catholic school and then turned up at the public school I had changed to (partially to escape him and his gang of thugs.) The guy had been a 19 year old freshman at the first school; damned if I know why he was still allowed to attend. He also had pulled a knife on me before, urinated into a 32 ounce cup with a bunch of his friends and tossed it all on me (I had an hour-and-a-half bus ride home.) and various other crap.

Long and the short of it is that I never cut him, but I did make him beg for his life and he had a big wet spot - having pissed his pants - around his crotch when I was finished with him.

The point here is that I would have never carried the knife in the first place if the first school had provided a reasonably safe environment.

A lot of the extreme violence in the schools, most, in fact, is done by victims of bullying. It is possible to nip that in the bud - and busting a cub scout for an innocent mistake ain't the way to accomplish that.

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Shameful
Posted by: QQOblivion on Oct 12, 2009 12:30 PM   
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This kind of stupid fascist zero-tolerance CRAP happens all too often these days. Little kids have even been ARRESTED for DRAWING pictures of army men shooting guns.

America has the highest number of people in prison of ANY country ON EARTH.
Why is that? Why are we the LEAST free country in the world? Yet we say we are the freest?

You have got to be fucking kidding me, regarding the kid. By the way, I hope the parents sue big time. Going to reform school is going to probably screw this kid up for life. That's a lot of wasted potential.
Shameful.

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a broken record (or is that a CD?)
Posted by: newsound on Oct 12, 2009 12:58 PM   
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FREAK OUT
OVER-REACT
REPEAT ABOVE (while making sure someone makes money in the process)

That's America today.

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Zero Tolerance in school
Posted by: pjnaltykins on Oct 12, 2009 3:39 PM   
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My son has been "victimized" ever since we moved into a new school district. Their punishment is ALWAYS over-the-top, and in every situation, they assumed the worst - that my son was being aggressive, when in fact, he was being a "spazz" and someone else walked into his bubble. Poor kid put up with this nonsense for 2 years. Now that he is in Middle School, they actually decided to look underneath the "behaviors" and found out he has Asperger's Syndrome, a form of autism.

I had a battle royale with my ex over my son's testing - he was convinced they want to "label" our son. Well, guess what, Einstein, they have already labeled him - "a danger to others". Anyone who knows my son was shocked to hear this, he really is a good kid. For the past 7 years in school, he has gotten punished when what he really needed was help and understanding. Since he makes super high grades, they expected his behavior to be at that same level.

If they had kept up their "criminalizing" of my son by trying to send him off to "boot camp" for minor infractions, they would in fact be the ones making a "criminal" out of him. It's not good for the community when parents have to be pitted against their child's school.

I feel SO sorry for that 6 y/o boy who was proud of his scout doo-dad and wanted to show his friends. All too often, the grownups in our schools seem to forget the innocence of childhood, because they usually just see/hear about the bad cases. I hope their parents appeal. 45 days is absolutely ridiculous, (3 is too many) and WILL result in psychological harm to that 6 year old LITTLE KID. :-(

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» RE: Zero Tolerance in school Posted by: tony_opmoc
» RE: Zero Tolerance in school Posted by: pjnaltykins
I just can't help feeling sorry for this kid
Posted by: deejayvee on Oct 12, 2009 5:37 PM   
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I remember what it was like to be excited about things as a kid - I really miss it as an adult. To have his school jump on him like that must have been devastating.

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The follow up is...
Posted by: adp3d on Oct 12, 2009 8:36 PM   
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...that his parents are taking him out of school and will home school him rather than put him in "reform" school.

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Infantilization of America
Posted by: ender on Oct 13, 2009 12:22 AM   
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Zero tolerance take away a person's right to make on-the-spot judgment calls and this diminishes us all. We become infantilised because it is impossible to learn responsibility or to gain experience without being able to make decisions.

Where do we expect the next generation of leaders to come from in a society that doesn't allow individuals to make decisions? Where do we expect the next generation of innovators to come from in a society that forbids risk taking? Without leadership, without innovation, a society is doomed to stagnate and diminish for it is through leadership and innovation that we grow, evolve and improve.

Zero tolerance is the the very antithesis of what makes our country great, and embracing a policy of zero tolerance assures us of only one thing: that our best days are behind us.

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Lucky Lady
Posted by: the man with a dog on Oct 13, 2009 1:19 AM   
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Miss Zachary Christie can consider herself lucky! Who knows what sentence she would have had if the authorities had discovered the 100 pounds of semtex strapped around her waist, and the loaded 45 Magnum tucked in her belt.

What next? Packets of bubble gum?????

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Just figured out something
Posted by: Blacktiger on Oct 13, 2009 1:55 AM   
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At the age of 70 I have often wondered why my sex life was the shits. Well in grade seven a boy kicked me in the crotch with his heavy work boots and in grade ten 16 other boys decided to rape me. Schools have never been known to make safety first first.!!!! Kids have to learn to beat the odds and come out the other side of high school graduation ready to take on the world. No wonder now that guns are so easy to get and prized as a right that more kids don't wig out. You can bet your bottom weak dollar that if I had the chance there would 17 less pricks on this earth.
So this kid is 6 yrs old and in Boy Scouts? You have got to be kidding!!!! A Boy Scout?????
AMERICA GET A GRIP. SHEESH!!!

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Stupidity
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Oct 13, 2009 2:28 AM   
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Good article. Kind of funny too. I like the way it connects our local paranoia with our international paranoia, and highlights the irony that we create monsters with our ill-conceived attempts to control and dominate non-existent ones.

I thought school sucked when I was going, but I'm glad I went then instead of now.

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Control By Fear Doesn't Work
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 13, 2009 3:03 AM   
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With love & repect, fear disappears, and order, peace and happiness return.

This is a great article, and gets to the root of why Western Society is collapsing.

Trying to convince a Disciplinarian who beats his Children so that they behave, that control by fear doesn't work, is a tough job. He will not only point to his Children sat terrified in silence, he will also show you their bedrooms in immaculate order without a toy out of place.

He will explain to you how his Father beat the living daylights out of him, and how it never did him any harm at all. He will point out how the Military runs things, and how we win Wars. He will insist that Control By Fear is the Only Way.

That's where we are now, and since 9/11 things have got considerably worse. We are rapidly heading towards Complete Dictatorship and a Police State. In fact arguably, we are already there.

But look at the result. Everything is collapsing around us, and our World is turning into Hell.

This Is Not O.K.. Living in a State of Fear is a Horrible Way to Live. Human Life, can and should be very much better than that.

Dictatorship simply doesn't work, and societies based on this philosophy rapidly collapse.

Children who are brought up, without Love, in a state of Fear, eventually rebel. They explode and create complete mayhem in an orgy of aggression. Then they are either jailed or recruited by the Army or Police to Terrify The Innocent.

The following article explains in beautiful detail, what real leadership is about..

It's Something Else Entirely - The Difference Between Leadership and Domination

Extract

"The main role of leadership is to help people get where they want to go. Leadership is specifically about individuals. It challenges individuals to think in new ways and to try to achieve things they don't believe they can achieve. Leadership is coaching. It is guidance. It is experience and wisdom. Leadership is never about the leaders because the end goal of good leaders is to become useless; to no longer be needed by others in order to achieve their goals. Leaders empower others."

"Leaders don't tell people what to do, or what to think. Leaders are not controllers, dominators or enforcers."

"Leaders are first and foremost guides. Facilitators. Enablers who help others get where they want to go. Leadership is about management, but management that is intensely people focused and very personal. Leadership is specifically about people; it is guiding people out of their own way to help them realize themselves. When it's done right, individuals are empowered and armed to go forth and use the best of themselves to full capacity. When it's done wrong, individuals are controlled and dominated down to being what their "leaders" demand, usually at the cost of individuality and critical thinking, as well as personal dignity, creativity, power, and choice."

Tony

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» RE: Control By Fear Doesn't Work Posted by: richholland
And you wonder why some turn to home schooling
Posted by: LeonBNJ on Oct 13, 2009 3:40 AM   
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While most of those who choose to home school thier kids do so for religious reasons, some do so as they despise the rigid rules and lack of reason in some public schools as situations like this show. Yes, it was wrong for that kid to have a knife in school but it was the extreme punishment that was much more wrong. Years ago, the kid would have just turned in the knife to the Principal, sent back the classroom and the knife given back to the parents or thrown out. Problem is that the fears of legal liability, of misuse or to threaten other students and the general culture of overzelous control of behaviors in schools have led to such dranconian policies. Until we legisgate some minimal reason and flexibility as to punishment, we will just create more people who will just become fools and incapable of being independent thinking and reasoning.

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morgan1
Posted by: morgan1 on Oct 13, 2009 4:45 AM   
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I put this in the same category as bullying, and we have all experienced this at some point in our lives--Even the bully. This is not an incident easily suppressed or shrugged off as the child grows into adulthood. If his idea was to "show off", he was crushed. As a kid, all of us going to school ('50's on to the '70's) brought stuff to school to show off to our friends and teachers. All the guys carried pocket knives and nothing was ever thought about it. Of course, the downside to all of this freedom was no one interceded to stop the bully either on the girls side or the boys side. However, it is clear it all went sideways after Reagan and especially Columbine. Let me be clear: It was not for the better. The public education system (As well as the colleges and universities) has been dumbed down and the adults that are supposed to set the example have simply lost all ability to reason. This appears to be another very young student the system had already f****d up and he's just started.

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How times have changed
Posted by: Axiom69 on Oct 13, 2009 4:49 AM   
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Being from a rural area hunting is very popular. When I was in school the first day of hunting season would see large numbers of boys absent. During the season some would bring their guns to school for hunting right after. I remember kids getting on the bus with a rifle case, leaving in the seat behind the driver, then picking it up when they got off. They would leave it in the office during the day then go hunting right after school. Nobody batted an eye. It was common place for this to happen. Imagine a kid today getting on a school bus with a rifle and ammo.
The author was right to say we are treating symptoms not the disease. Back then nobody would have dreamed of a school shooting. What's really sad is that I'm only 40 so this wasn't all that long ago.

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» RE: How times have changed Posted by: DaBear
zero tolerance only does one thing...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Oct 13, 2009 5:08 AM   
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... punish those who should not be punished and draw time, money, and manpower away from any actual dangers.

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California
Posted by: Erin on Oct 13, 2009 5:11 AM   
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I work at a school in So. California and let me tell you how different things are here. A kid brings a knife to school (middle school - 6th to 8th grade) and tells a teacher that he hates her and wants to kill her (he has the knife in a backpack). When he is sent to the office for saying that, the knife is dicovered. He was sent back to her class because "the knife was not 3 inches long". That is the criteria for expulsion -- as if a 2 and 1/2 inch knife couldn't do damage or kill if the blade hit an artery. The teacher called the union and, only then, was the kid suspended (NOT EXPELLED) for 5 days.
A kid calls a teacher "a fucking Jew" and "you are a racist and a liar because of your religion", and he gets 1 day of suspension.
A kid yells "fuck you, bitch" to a staff member and is given lunch detenton.
A kid goes toe to toe, in a teacher's face with profanity, when she tries to keep him in for lunch detention and then walks out the door and goes to lunch with his friends, and he gets to sit in the office enjoying himself for the next period.
What this school in Delaware did is absolutely ridiculous!! Really, a six year old with a boy scout camp set is not a threat to anyone. He is just a kid who got excited about his new Scout gear and wanted to eat lunch with it. Get a grip Delaware. The things my school district is letting kids get away with is criminal....a 6 year old, being a 6 year old is just innocent childhood behavior. They should have taken the item and called the parent to come an pick it up and advised them that it is not an item to be brought to school. No biggie.

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» RE: California Posted by: richholland
» RE: California Posted by: DaBear
RON MRO
Posted by: RONMRO on Oct 13, 2009 5:46 AM   
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When I was Superintendent of Schools in Michigan we had such a policy. However, I was the arbiter. Our rule was the famous 3 inch rule. The length of my ruler was inversely proportional to the age of the youngster. To me common sense had to prevail over some inane rule. Certainly we would admonish the child not to bring it again.Sometimes our authority overruns our better judgement. It is ridiculous to me to not to consider each case on its merits.

Junior and senior high school students were also considered individually. Switch blades, brass knuckles,and guns were totally different. Suspension and Expulsion were possible deterents. I followed my conscience which sometimes did not please everyone. So be it. Since I grew up in Detroit,I always felt I had a better feel for situations than many people. Especially those who believed retribution was the only answer.

I am pleased to report that no elementary child was unloaded upon. We occasionally had to suspend and/or expel older youngsters but they were only for the most egregious matters which provided a clear and present danger to the school community.

Common sense must prevail.

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» RE: ON MRO Posted by: aussidawg
Zero Tolerance = zero intelegence
Posted by: kahuna_2bears on Oct 13, 2009 6:04 AM   
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When rules like this set in stone it takes common sence out of the question because people are afraid to say in this case the rules in this case doesn;t make any sence. Because they are fearful there will be a worse eventin the future and the person in that case will try to use leniency in the former event as an excuse for leniency.

When I was going to school I was the smallest person there (because of the accident that neary took my life).

Since I was the smallest person in school I had to protect myself quite often, and I quickly learned how to turn almost anything into a weapon.

When I was in the eighth grade a first grader tried to mug me for my wristwatch.

On the first day of Highschool Darrell M tried to take my pants off and when he was messing with my belt buckle I got mt stapler out of my pocket and drove three staples into his left leg.

on another day Danny Y had jabbed me in the ribs with a pencil. I told the teacher on him three times but this only made the problem worse. So I took things into my own hands and used my French book as a weapon. I hit Danny over the back of the head and knocked him unconscious.

Those were before the days of zero tolerance. Theteacjer and Principal did a little check to see who started it. They found I was protecting myself and that was the end of it.

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PARENTS PAY A LITTLE CLOSER ATTENTION
Posted by: maddydigrazia on Oct 13, 2009 6:55 AM   
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Parents, Adults speak to your children about what is school and zero tolerance policy. Parent, Adults please check your child's bag and pockets before sending to school. Kids will take anything to show it at school without ill intention eg 6 year old brings viagra to school and gives to friend, kids takes parents drug and brings to school.
Right now we cant fix the system but we can avoid getting caught up in its ugly mess.

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Automatic reaction...
Posted by: Leo Toledo on Oct 13, 2009 7:06 AM   
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I hope this little boy's parents save all this comments, more than 1300 just at the NYT alone and show it to Zachary when he is old enough to understand them... I am glad the majority of them are really about the reclaim of the American way of discretionary opinion, out of this simplistics reactions...
We should be teaching "tolerance " some have posted, and Americans cannot relinquish their comonsense towards rules like this, even our entire set of laws needs interpretation , a whole court system and an entire branch of Governement was made just to apply them, and sometimes they still do it wrongly, maybe that is why its concept of being blind...
I hope this is an wake up call for all of us who are just giving away our lives towards a false sense of security, these ZT - reactions are permeating all over, and making us robotics and slaving ourselves...

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Shucks he should have brought a GUN
Posted by: ProudLiberal1947 on Oct 13, 2009 8:00 AM   
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Just think a pen knife wow, they should have let him bring a gun then he would have been hailed a strong supporter of the Constitution and the the Wacko right would have rallied around him.

This is just another example of the rush to legislate with out thought, remembering the appeasement is of the moment not the long range affect of the asinine regulations that are being instituted for re-election.


Notice how the clowns on the right what were they the Law and order crowd are quite now with all the War Crimes, Theft of the National Treasury, Theft of peoples retirement funds, Abuse of Power, Illegal Wire Taps, Lying us into War, police brutality and the list goes on.

Remember though a SIX year old brought a pocket knife to school how pathetic and the clowns at the school are incapable or to incompetent to make a judgement call, but will stand by and say nothing about the last Administrations war and Economic Crimes. Simply pathetic.

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Stupidity in American Education?--Who could imagine?!
Posted by: Prinzowhales on Oct 13, 2009 8:01 AM   
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In just a decade or so American schools have been turned into armed camps with metal detectors and police...lockdowns and drills...political correctness and the kind of by-the-book mindlessness one can only find in the military or OCD'ers.

What can we say about the Foundation-spawned, liberal-run, progressively more expensive, American education edifice? We can support the system we have built for ourselves and our children!! We can say..."So what?" We say it about everything else. The Guardians found a forbidden utensil in the possession of one of their inmates. She deserves the kind of punishment that the infraction calls for...this is the new America...those bad old 'law and order' conservatives are history--banished from the hallowed halls of progressive education.

Our proud, Nobel Prize winning president is leading the way into a future of hope and change. Terrorists will be dealt with severely under HIS renewed Patriot Act. Children will be under the tutelege of our Brave New World educators for a full year with the blessings of our Fearless Leader! "Bring a fork to school, and we'll fork you good!" We will enjoy the blessings of not only DARE but a whole system of snoops who will vigilantly guard us against fork-carrying terrorists who threaten our freedoms and secretly yearn for what al CIAda yearns. The fork is an introductory weapon just as marijuana is an introductory drug and if we don't stop these little girls from eating with forks, pretty soon they'll graduate to AK-47s and there will be hell to pay at the Mall

Keep up the good work, rule-makers and Pecksniffs! Your time has finally come! This is your America, now! Progressives will unite-- as they always do--behind the call for more and more money for the kind of education reforms you have made over the last few years to make the educational experience in America an inspiration to prison wardens all over the world...Keep up the good work!...Remember...Support your local school board...Ignorance is Strength, and America is a Super Power! Go Team!

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» last decade or so? Posted by: JoshuaLudd
Spork: the WMD for the AmeriKan Youth Brigade!
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Oct 13, 2009 8:03 AM   
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used by those 'gang-colour wearing' little hoods that come sneaking around, worshipping Baden Powell...

its no wonder Mall 'RentACops' throw them out of private shopping centres: keeping your shopping centres & schools free from the terror of multi-tools!

(hum... tools, indeed!)

though, there IS that disturbing story about Pathfinders being recruited by HLS & Border Patrol xenophobes...

just say'n...




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watching the prison grid take shape
Posted by: JimSwank on Oct 13, 2009 8:05 AM   
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The year I went to high school, smoking was banned, and only seniors were allowed to leave campus for lunch (before it was everyone)

Fast forward to today and there's a big metal fence around the place and I'm told by one of the students that NOBODY can leave for lunch nor even roam the campus during lunch (a freedom I enjoyed each day). They have to stay in the lunch room like elementary school kids.

If people a few years from adulthood are treated like ten-year-olds I can't imagine how bad it must be in primary school.

If workplaces are now adopting a zero-tolerance policy then, truly, a pattern is starting to emerge.

Call it paranoia and maybe it is but it seems to me that the whole country is turning into a giant prison camp.

My only comforting thought is that it can't go on forever. Eventually, something's gotta give.

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LockDown Nations start with LOCK DOWN MINDS
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Oct 13, 2009 8:12 AM   
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if you teach EVERYONE that:

... they are CHILDREN UNTIL THEY'RE 30
... only the brain-dead & quadriplegics are 'angels' because they can't act on their thoughts (thoughts?)
... that you don't HAVE THE RIGHT TO ENJOY YOUR OWN BODY
... that you can NEVER CONSENT, but ONLY SUBMIT to Power
... that Justice is synonymous with spite & vengeance
... that FREEDOM really means, how dare you hold me accountable for abusing others
... unions are anti-democratic
... unions are for keeping out the Youth & protecting established workers
... human rights & civil rights interfere with Holy Capitalist Corporate Agenda
... free movement is DANGEROUS
... that there are NO public spaces & NO public assembly rights
... that PRIVATIZATION is the best thing to do, so that social structures which were the investment of generations of community are best sliced into private opportunities for PERSONAL GAIN...


Then you've succeeded in creating a nation of people more used to living in OPEN AIR PRISON COMPLEX

ON YOUR KNEES, Citizen! ...don't make me hurt you for your own good...





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When I was 6 Years Old, I Ran Away From School
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 13, 2009 8:25 AM   
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It wasn't that difficult. My Mother dropped me off in the school playground, and I simply waited for her to go - and sneaked out without anyone noticing.

Now sure I was being bullied by the kids, but it wasn't that I was concerned about. I could stand up for myself and did. Sure I would usually lose the fight, but I didn't allow the bullies to win the mental battle. I wouldn't give in until they were dragged off me.

No it wasn't the kids that were the problem.

It was the teacher. I can still remember her name. She appeared to be about 70 years old, and was all sweetness and light in front of the headmistress and the parents.

But once the door was closed, and she had sole control, she turned into a Catholic Witch Straight out of Hell. I objected to being physically beaten for not learning my catechism well enough. Or rather I wasn't allowed to object, or the beatings would have got worse. I didn't get beaten up at home by my parents, and didn't see why I should be beaten up in school by a 70 year old witch.

So I escaped, and got away with it for a couple of days.

This caused a great deal of embarrassment for the school, especially for the old witch, as 6 year old boys were not supposed to play truant.

Beating kids up was however completely legal at the time if you were a teacher. It was probably kinder than the use of Ritalin, but completely failed to teach me any respect for old witches especially Catholic ones.

Catholic Colleges Run by Priests, and Convents run by Nuns were however far worse. My Brothers and Sisters were subjected to that, and most of them ended up in mental hospitals. The stuff inflicted by these highly religious people was sheer mental and physical torture.

Tony

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I'm sick of the phrase Zero Tolerance!
Posted by: Gabba_Gabba_Hey on Oct 13, 2009 8:56 AM   
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Where/when did this ridiculous term originate? I have zero tolerance for it.

Can't the school district have a policy of, say, 5% tolerance and quit wasting everyone's time?

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kb
Posted by: KAB on Oct 13, 2009 9:02 AM   
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Adult notions of morality do not apply to children. Zero tolerance-- even for sporks-- perfectly fits the moral understanding of a 6 year old and it is necessary to create adults who know better.

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how dare he and his parents
Posted by: imagreate on Oct 13, 2009 11:05 AM   
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Okay, I agree with what everyone is saying about zero tolerance and the completely ridiculous way that this was handled. But lets step back and look beyond the school's response and the utlensil...this kid is a CUB SCOUT and will inevitably become a BOY SCOUT. Isn't that an organization that will help him become ASSERTIVE, SELF-SUFFICIENT, and perhaps even teach him to DEFEND HIMSELF, TAKE CARE OF HIMSELF, and even encourage his BELIEF IN GOD (if he does). How DARE any organization do that? Our leadership (collectively) and our society's elistists CANNOT HAVE THAT! He must be taught to be submissive, needy and incapable of conscious thought, so as to be used by the system as all of the other sheeple. (Funny, doing so will result in an adult that's decision making ability is neutralized by things like...zero tolerance!)

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This just pisses me off, more war on boys (okay "children"). God dammit!
Posted by: DaBear on Oct 13, 2009 11:36 AM   
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Zachary Christie should not be sent to reform school. His parents should give him a strong talking to about how knives are not toys. . . .If you show children nothing but cruelty, and intolerance, then they repeat that behavior and grow up to become Republicans.

Word. With one qualification: His parents do NOT need to give him a talking to. He took his utensil to school, proud to use it at lunch. The appropriate response SHOULD be, ensure he uses it safely. Period. (If the knife still freaks out the paranoid and perpetually terrified stoopids, there's a simple solution: you unscrew the post of the handle, slip out the fold-out knife blade, replace with a washer and close the handle. Boom, you got a fold out fork and spoon sans the knife blade. I mean, jee-bus-fuck, people, was that so god damned hard?!).

The Oprah/Dr. Phil crowd has fucked us all over with their paranoia and their irrational fear over every last thing because of every inconceivable irrational potentiality for every last little thing on this fucked over Earth.

My kid was suspended four times in Kindergarten for fuck's sake, every single damned one of them grounded in irrational panic at absolutely nothing (using a stick-"lethal offensive weapon" to retrieve a frisbee from a tree, opening the desicant packet from another kid's beef jerky packet and pouring it into the trashcan-"reckless endangerment of the safety of others", pulling his pants down while dancing to music-goaded into the "lewd act" by two bullies he was trying to get off his back by compliance with their demands, & refusing to salute the flag and recite the pledge of allegiance-"willful disregard for a school official's authority"). What lessons did he learn? School is not a nice place and he can't wait to get out, adults are mostly idiots (making my job five times harder, fuck you very much, idiot nervous-nellies).

The madness must end. Aw hell, this is 'Merkuh... "The List" shall prevail.

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Bring back the Stocks!
Posted by: Nitestallion on Oct 13, 2009 12:40 PM   
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Those who attack children (boys or girls) in the estimation of this respondent would be better off if a mile marker stone were tied around their necks and they were dropped into the great abyssal plane of the Puerto Rican trench. The particular child in this article is not guilty of anything greater than a childish lack of judgment. To punish this boy in the fashion mention is more monstrous than what a real misbehavior should glean.

I have toned it down a bit to stocks. They (the school board) are the terrorists here. Forty-five days in a reform school for a child that age permanently scars them. I have friends who suffered such maltreatment at the hands of so called sane authoritarians. They need stocks at least, and fresh rotten vegetation to be provided for those very 45 days they recommend for this child.

As for so called over reaction to Columbine excuses I keep hearing, fuck that stupid shit! Real weapons were involved there. If these dog sexual member licking board bastards can’t tell the difference then what are they doing in positions of power and authority? Don’t anyone dare tell me that the law must be followed to the letter. This law is wrong and all of us know it, even the educated pure evil bastards who enact the law know.

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ADHD Ritalin Scam
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 13, 2009 2:25 PM   
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When I was a kid, kids misbehaved. They were naughty and did naughty things. Most kids were naughty. It was considered Normal Behaviour by Everyone. Hardly anyone was actually harmed by naughty behaviour. Its common throughout human history and in all cultures.

I first became aware of what I thought was a Scam, about 10 years ago, because a friend of mine had his kid diagnosed. I thought his behaviour was completely normal, except that he was highly intelligent.

I've just started watching this video. It is exceedingly interesting.

linked Video

Tony


ADHD - Total, 100% Fraud
56:56 - 2 years ago
(produced from video of the 1998, NIH Consensus Conference on ADHD which concluded with a confession that there was no proof that ADHD was a real disease--running time 56 minute. ) by Fred A. Baughman, Jr., MD, Neurologist, Child Neurologist, author of the book: THE ADHD FRAUD--How Psychiatry Makes "Patients" of Normal Children (2006) . www.Trafford.com Biographical Sketch – 6/22/07 Mailing address: 1303 Hidden Mountain Drive El Cajon, CA 92019 fax 619 440 8236 www.adhdfraud.com Contact: Fred Baughman, MD fredbaughmanmd@cox.net Author: The ADHD Fraud: How Psychiatry Makes "Patients" of Normal Children http://www.trafford.com/4dcgi/view

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» absolutely! Posted by: tazdelaney
When crazies run the asylum..
Posted by: mizobe on Oct 13, 2009 2:49 PM   
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Zero-tolerance is just lack of tolerance on illegal steroids.
How are our kids supposed to grow up to be decent people when the Draconian crazies keep teaching them sociopathic ideals such as Zero-tolerance.
I get the feeling that the people running things are the same ones who were control freaks and bullies back when they were in school.
Too bad they will never be capable of pointing that accusatory finger at themselves and their cliche and see that is they and their twisted ideologies are the root of the problem to begin with. They obviously lack the depth that would require.

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Zero tolerance: thank the progessive mind set
Posted by: leonardfeingold on Oct 13, 2009 4:51 PM   
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Progressives worship at the altar of govt control in the name of fairness. IT has given us the recent balking of Limbaugh to be in the NFL because of "hate speech"--zero tolerance. The universities are full of speech code laws which have used against conservatives.
The author seems to respect IRan which knocks off virgins by having them raped so they can be executed(under sharia, cannot excute a virgin); hangs gays etc. So they are to be trusted.

What is with progressives?

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Short but sweet
Posted by: Dyolfknip on Oct 13, 2009 6:11 PM   
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In just a few short paragraphs this composition illustrates what many perceive to be the greatest failing of U.S. culture and philosophy (aside from supreme arrogance). If one takes the author's "tragedy reaction list" and applies it to almost any American disaster over the last 30 years one sees the pattern clearly. Many of my American friends cited the phenomena in this article as a primary reason for wanting to leave their country (we are expats living in China).

Great article and as a Canadian I will warn you now... Canada IS about to attack!

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real school indoctrination
Posted by: jimmie d on Oct 14, 2009 2:03 PM   
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Just early training. Later in life when he exercises the RIGHTS, he thought were his as explained in the Boy Scouts through reading the old parchment reproduced documents of yore, twittering at a protest to redress grievances, arrested, jailed his personal property taken as evidence of the crime; he will raise his right arm in the boy scout salute repeat the oath ..I will do my best...etc, etc, etc. for the” HOMELAND” SECURITY,FBI, AND LOCALE POLICE. ( WHY WERE THEY MOITORING FREE SPEECH ?)

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NUTJOBS THEY ARE
Posted by: bvennie on Oct 15, 2009 5:36 AM   
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OR THEY ARE NUTJOBS.. suspend??*

NUTJOBSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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a correction and addenda
Posted by: tazdelaney on Oct 15, 2009 9:43 AM   
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the author writes that US 'defense' spending almost equals the rest of the world combined, but that point was already passed as of 2006. while the strictly DoD budget is $650billion, that in itself is as much as the rest of the world and doesn't include 'defense-related spending' such as intelligence, 'homeland security,' appropriations to several other government agencies like NASA and DoE, plus veterans administration. if these are figured in, the number is now closing in on $900 billion a year, way more than the rest of the world combined...

i'd also like to add some other reasons for going postal and school shootings. while the poor were poor before the reagan years, these events largely didn't happen then as a distinct phenomenon.

for decades in america, the leading cause of teen death was drunk driving accidents but this started to shift in 1970. last i read, the leading cause of teen deaths is now suicide, with murder a close 2nd and drunk driving (which still kills 15,000+ a year), third. teen suicide is now 7x more than it was in 1960 and these days the kids don't just use it to get desperately needed attention; they just blow their brains out or whatever.

several reasons for this... one is the fact of an increasingly love-disabled society. ever 10 years starting in 1970, a video and interview study of american households has been done and one of the issues is expression of affection. it has been dropping fast and in 2000 hit an alltime low with less than a third of the hugging or even touching as was seen in 1970. one cause is the hyper-hysteria over child abuse and pedophilia which has especially fathers afraid to be seen hugging their own children, 'pedophobia.'

i recently saw that the average age at which americans have their first sex is also at an all-time high of almost 17. seeing as how male sexual peak is over at age 19, no wonder they are easy prey for army recruiters and suicide... they are dying inside from frustration. the typical suicide note reads, 'can't get any love' or 'no one will have sex with me like i'm some kind of creep.' girls do have it better in the sense of sexual peak lasting to 26 years of age.

i could go on and on about these areas but will go to the next one. 1/5th of americans are now on a psychiatric drug and 1/7 of kids 10-20 are. speed is given for ADHD, an invented 'illness' if ever there was one; the so-called antidepressants and antipyschotics next. over 80% of mass-murders in america since 1985 are committed by persons on psych pharma and even more of the school shooters. studies have shown that children and teens are much more likely to commit either suicide or murder if they're on that crap. yet parents who refuse to force these on their kids are actually being charged as 'unfit parents' and their kids are hauled off to 'clinics' where the shrinks can have their way with their guinea pigs. note that the psy-op MK Ultra and the APA itself have been major parts of the american torture-as-policy. note that several kids spent their entire adolescent lives under torture at gitmo. this is no problem for political psychiatry.

of course, there is also the matter that kids have grown up in this rabid society and are presented our dobermen troops and torturers as role models...

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that's so american
Posted by: tazdelaney on Oct 15, 2009 9:57 AM   
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putting a 6 year old into a reform school to be terrorized and psychiatrized for 6 weeks... just wait kid, it gets worse. what is planned for you is 12 more years of brainwashing, then a stint in the military, followed by a lifetime of working, if you can find a job, for a stinking corporation and to cap it off, nursing home. somewhere in there he might get to do 5 years in prison for an ounce of pot. i wonder if they handcuffed the brat? how about tasering? it is possible that this lad may someday soon acquire a serious weapon and set loose. if so, we can hope that he doesn't go after his classmates but targets the real culprits. 'surprise! i'm back!'

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let's not forget sugar
Posted by: tazdelaney on Oct 15, 2009 10:17 AM   
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in 1970, the average american consumed 10 tsp of sugar a day.. that is now up to 20 tsp a day, having doubled. but kids 10-20 are now consuming 24tsp a day on average! pile that up on a table and consider this fact. a bottle of snapple's high fructose corn syrup is the equivalent of 10 tsp sugar by itself. so take this kid on 24 tsp of sugar a day, playing ultraviolent videogames andliving in a hyper-accelerated society of rabid warmongers and torturer-promoters and voila, a seemingly hyperactive kid to turn over to reform schools, clinics and psychiatric pharma.

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kids call it 'prison prep'
Posted by: tazdelaney on Oct 15, 2009 10:34 AM   
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here in NYC, draconian laws have made schools into something more akin to concentration camps, especially in such places as harlem. metal detectors, searches, interrogations and an easy ride to reform school for 'reform.' be late for school and pay the piper. play truant and a social worker might declare the parents unfit and take them off to some hellhole. so it's no big surprise that the kids call these schools 'prison prep.' but that may not refer to just prisons as in those big buildings, but to society itself. kids say the darnedest things...

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WHAT EVER!!!!
Posted by: jaglover on Oct 16, 2009 7:51 AM   
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The kids' parents should have checked him before sending him off to school. Obviously the school could have handled it much smarter than they did. The kid ain't cute to me because it just seems like he got coached real good for the cameras and everybody's oooing and ahing and cooing over it. Ha Ha very funny now get your little ass back in school. People who can't parent should NOT have children!!!! CAN YOU SAY BALLOON BOY????

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