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Glenn Beck's Twisted Brain: Pol Pot Less Reprehensible Than Woodrow Wilson, Tiger Woods, and FDR

Posted by Simon Maloy, Media Matters for America at 4:02 PM on September 23, 2009.


This is getting absurd.

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Knowing who Glenn Beck is, and the type of discourse he engages in, it would be the height of foolishness to expect a reasoned discussion of U.S. history within the pages of Arguing with Idiots. But this is getting absurd.

In his chapter titled, "U.S. Presidents: A Steady Progression of Progressives," Beck treats us to his list of the "Top Ten Bastards of All Time." The occupants of that list, in ascending order, are Pol Pot, Robert Mugabe, Teddy Roosevelt, Bernie Madoff, Adolf Hitler, Keith Olbermann, Pontius Pilate, FDR, Tiger Woods, and Woodrow Wilson. That's right, in Beck's book, mass slaughter of millions of innocents makes you a less reprehensible person than the presidents who won both World Wars for the United States.

The whole reason the list exists is so Beck can go on an extended tirade against Woodrow Wilson, who earned the top spot because he "[s]hredded our First Amendment by arresting thousands of people for speaking against U.S. involvement in WWI." This, of course, is in reference to the Espionage Act of 1917 and the Sedition Act of 1918. And Beck is right -- both acts were horrible offenses against the First Amendment and resulted in the unjust imprisonment of many Americans, including, ironically, many members of socialist-leaning industrial unions that Beck finds so objectionable.

But if the Sedition Act was so heinous an offense as to make Wilson history's greatest "bastard," then shouldn't John Adams be on Beck's list as well? After all, Adams signed into law the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798, which made it illegal for anyone to "write, print, utter or publish" anything "false, scandalous and malicious" about the government. Does that not count as "shred[ing] the First Amendment"? You could even make the case that Adams was worse than Wilson, because he was actually there when the First Amendment was drafted and ratified.

That wouldn't fit into Beck's theology, though, which is borrowed from his intellectual guide, the discredited far-right conspiracy theorist W. Cleon Skousen, and will not entertain even the slightest criticism of the Founding Fathers. In Beck's and Skousen's view, the Founders were divinely inspired and infallible, whereas Dwight Eisenhower was a communist and Woodrow Wilson was worse than Hitler.

But in fairness to Beck, if he had included John Adams, that wouldn't have left room on the list for Tiger Woods, who's on there because "[h]e's got a Swedish-supermodel wife, a gazillion dollars, and he plays golf for a living... bastard!"

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Keith Olbermann must be happy
Posted by: deejayvee on Sep 23, 2009 4:33 PM   
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Really, that's a pretty top compliment for him.

Tiger Woods being on the list is just weird. I've never seen Tiger get involved in politics, although I don't really follow golf.

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» About Tiger Woods... Posted by: Eric.Arthur.Blair
» RE: About Tiger Woods... Posted by: bcoblentz
looks like Glenn replaced booze with meth
Posted by: hurricane hugo on Sep 23, 2009 4:37 PM   
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#@!

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In a sane nation filled with sane people...
Posted by: JoshuaLudd on Sep 23, 2009 5:32 PM   
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... this sort of list would automatically negate ALL credibility for this jackass, who would basically be persona non gratta on american airwaves afterwards. Putting a journalist, much less US presidents above Pol Pot and Robert Mugabe is utterly insane.. or at least it would be so if his aims were not clear... to simply get these figures up there to take pot shots at them.

His complaints about Wilson are legitimate, of course... but to say that arrests are somehow more of a crime against humanity than.. I dunno... the gassing of millions of jews or the atrocities of the Khmer Rouge is ludicrously and obviously partisan hackery at its best/worst.

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Good old crazy Glenn.
Posted by: RSW58 on Sep 23, 2009 8:14 PM   
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I was in Borders book store the other day and saw Beck's latest literary gem--"Arguing With Idiots"-- in the new book section. At first I incorrectly assumed that he was talking about how to argue with people like him. But then I realized that he was talking about liberals. (Silly me!)
I glanced through it and it was full of the usual ignorant rantings I expected from Beck. But for him to say that Wilson, Olberman and Tiger Woods are worse than Pol Pot just blew my mind. WHO listens to this idiot and why???

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» RE: Good old crazy Glenn. Posted by: jbro434
Huh?
Posted by: Bronxboy47 on Sep 23, 2009 10:23 PM   
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No, seriously, why is Tiger Woods' name on this list? I mean seriously, does Beck say why Woods is on this list?

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» He does, he does -- get this: Posted by: AdamSelene40
» Tiger Woods Posted by: drcyflowers
» RE: Tiger Woods Posted by: shanaza
Giving a drunk rodeo clown PR
Posted by: Lese Majeste on Sep 24, 2009 2:00 AM   
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And that's what this is doing, keeping up interest in that depraved SOB.

Why even bother to waste time and resources talking about GB?

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Won What?
Posted by: InsertNameHere on Sep 24, 2009 4:32 AM   
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'...the presidents who won both World Wars for the United States.'

I think there are several million Russians, Britons, Aussies and Canadians who would disagree that any US President 'won' any World Wars.

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» RE: Won What? Posted by: melloe2
Tiger Woods Worse Than Pol Pot Or Hitler?
Posted by: Animal on Sep 24, 2009 4:59 AM   
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ROTFLMGDFAOOL!!!!!!!!!!

To paraphrase Dave Chappelle in "Half-Baked", it seems that Beck "has smoked himself retarded"!!

Definitely the funniest thing I've ever read on here!

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Read the Reviews, Don't Buy the Book
Posted by: Vince Coit on Sep 24, 2009 5:59 AM   
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There needs to be more meat added to this article, this is not a full book review, I know the thing got just released, and should have waited to see more. I think it is good to give PR to this “opinion guy’s” book, you should by all means read this article and full reviews of the book; do not buy the book, waste of trees (even though “trees” are number thirteen on the all time meanie list, lol).

Couric’s interview with Ahmadinejad is more valid than her interview with this Beck character the night before, as it was transparently an advertisement for a relatively liberal news organization, conglomerate whose publishing division cut book deal for profit, and probably ordered them to do it. No big surprise there.

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Fairness? To Beck?
Posted by: mainspark on Sep 24, 2009 6:02 AM   
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"But in fairness to Beck, if he had included John Adams, that wouldn't have left room on the list for Tiger Woods, who's on there because "[h]e's got a Swedish-supermodel wife, a gazillion dollars, and he plays golf for a living... bastard!"

That Glenn Beck, such a kidder!

No, seriously, Glenn, would Tiger still make the list if he only had a gazillion dollars and he played golf? Or is the marriage to an attractive Swede the necessary third strike against him? Either way, I'd be happy to make your list if I only had two of those strikes.

Thanks, Glenn.

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» RE: Fairness? To Beck? Posted by: galilei
» RE: Fairness? To Beck? Posted by: Cybershaman
Glenn Beck, Rush, Dobbs and their.............
Posted by: edieb on Sep 24, 2009 7:40 AM   
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ilk, must be thrilled; now that their disciples in Kensucky have lynched a man!

Apparently, shooting people in church and blowing people up is too tame for them now.

Bet they can't lynch just one!
Proud to be an American?

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Right-wing Comedy?
Posted by: misencikjc on Sep 24, 2009 8:02 AM   
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I think these jackasses put such lists together knowing that they are historically indefensible, all the while understanding that their unread crowd of loyal followers will nonetheless use it to reinforce their own bigotry.

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Who the hell is Glenn Beck?
Posted by: Col. Jackleg on Sep 24, 2009 8:19 AM   
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I know who Yogi Bear is. I know who Howdy Doody was. I know who "you can call me Ray was." But, who the hell is Glenn Beck? I've lived a long time and through many decades and never heard him utter anything, write anything I would read and I damned sure don't know what he looks like! If he's so important and influential then somewhere along the trail of life I should have encountered him. Ah, but I don't do Fox News and right-wing loonies are banned from my curiosity grovelings. For what its worth, I will join the chorus though and offer my sincere invitation that he eat the shit that he seems to spew and die from self-ingestion. Score? One down, hopefully many more to follow!

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"Pol Pot Less Reprehensible Than Woodrow Wilson, Tiger Woods, and FDR"
Posted by: exnazipope on Sep 24, 2009 8:25 AM   
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That makes a lot of sense. Pol Pot was a reichwing frankenstein creature. US involvement, particularly Nixon's ill-advised incursion into Cambodia, created Pol Pot. I'm sure his portrait hangs proudly in every neocon's bedroom.

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Inglorious Bastards - The Sequel
Posted by: inprov73 on Sep 24, 2009 8:43 AM   
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Hi, I'm Glenn Beck, and you're not. In my latest book "Arguing With Idiots" I published a list of "Top Ten Bastards of All Time". It's been pointed out to me however, that there might be more than just ten. So in my next book, cleverly titled "Arguing With More Idiots", I've come up with a second list which I call "Top Ten Greater Bastards Than the First List". Isn't that a great name? I'm so clever I could hug myself. In fact I think I will ...
Okay, I'm back. Anyway I thought you'd like a sneak peek at the list so here it is:
10. Colonel Harland Sanders - A fiend, a maniac, a mass murderer responsible for the deaths of millions. Ever since he opened his first restaurant I've not been able to look a chicken breast in the face. Thighs are another matter.
9. Where's Waldo - Anyone who can hide in plain sight is definitely a terrorist. Hasn't the FBI been notified about this guy? And that hat, very gay.
8. James Joyce - What the frig's his problem? Someone said I should read one of his books but I couldn't understand a word of it. I don't think he's capable of putting together a coherent sentence. My favorite reading is like "See Dick. See Jane. See Jane take her clothes off". You know, literature.
7. William the Bastard (later known as William the Conqueror) - Hey, anyone who has the word Bastard as part of their name belongs on this list.
6. Mark Sekowski - The Son-of-a-Bitch who beat me up and stole my lunch in grade school
5. My next door neighbor - Don't think I haven't spotted you trying to get a look at my wife while she's sunbathing.
4. Charles Darwin - Evolution my ass. Haven't any of you ever watched "The Flintstones".
3. Mickey Mouse - Because he's got a Swedish supermodel wife, a gazillion dollars and makes his living as a cartoon.
2. Woodrow Wilson's parrot - Wilson was number one on my first list. I've since found out, from reading a history book written in Texas, that the reason he got into politics was his parrot. Wilson was just kicking around, working odd jobs, but the bird kept demanding more and more crackers. So Wilson decided he needed something steadier and chose politics with the result that I've already described.
1. Me - Anyone who knows me needs no explanation.
So there you have it. Stay tuned for my next next book to be titled "Arguing With Still More Idiots" for another dumb list.

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Body Language alone proves his insanity
Posted by: Purple Girl on Sep 24, 2009 10:08 AM   
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I was at a corner pub the other night with Beck on a far TV- so I could not hear his raving Lunatic monologue- but his gestures and body language alone where telltale. His facial expressions are bizarrely exaggerated, his Gestures clearly display hysteria.
It would be worth a real non verbal communications expert to decipher what Beck is saying about himself and his sanity- without hearing a word. I suspect a mental health professional could equate his mannerisms to those he sees on the psyche ward.

How much and for how long did Beck spend pickling his brain,.he has signs of serious brain damage.
Beck is a facinating study in Abnormal psychology even with the sound turned down.

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Look, Beck Murdered an Innocent Frog Live on the Air!
Posted by: CovertRage on Sep 24, 2009 11:14 AM   
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Jackass: The Assinine Infotainment Spectacle

What a hamfisted idiot! If you place a living frog in cold water and gradually raise the temperature, the frog will leap out when the water becomes unbearably hot. Pitching a living frog into a boiling cauldron is called making frog soup. The poor frog immediately goes into shock and almost instantly dies, horrifically boiled from life to DEATH. I hope for the sake of froggies everywhere that the poor little frog was indeed a plastic one.

The whole horrified world gasped in astonished horror all at once when Beck did that. Thanks to this insanely obtuse spectacle, America went from being the global blond joke to unifying Planet Earth in an outraged international scream for our immediate implementation of universal comprehensive health options that unquestionably include an aggressive mental healthcare program, replete with free meds. Yes, the world was laughing at us. Now we're a cautionary tale of shock and horror, admonishing the world of the consequences of allowing an acutely chronic vegetative red state of right wing buffoonery to go untreated for eight consistant years.

Going forward, America is going to have to insist Murdoch's minions at Faux Noise make Beck study their 'How to Insanely Twist a Metaphor Incredulously OUT of ALL Intended Context' handbook a little more closely, and stop being too proud to request that easier-to-understand picture version Beck so desperately needs. After all, had this resolute pinhead followed the manual, along with the associated broadcast protocols created to falsely legitimize all the limited knuckleheads pretending to be journalists at Faux, this ignorant stunt, supported by the appropriate props and special affects, just might have convincingly achieved its piss-poorly set objectives. Keep in mind that only scientists on Discovery Channel, militaritistic extremists (Lee Ermy) on History Channel, or weirdos out to prove humans can sustain themselves eating pretty near anything on the Travel Channel, have ever dared to cook living amphibians on LIVE television for any reason. Also keep in mind the demographic of the Faux Noise audience. Gramps and Grandma really don't want to see some crazoid fresh off his meds and out of his straightjacket, having gone way off the infortainment reservation to feature reports of internment into re-education camps and government euthanasia squads, MURDERING A FROG to illustrate any point. Going forward, we really need to demand that Faux consult and have PETA and the ASPCA on hand any time any of the Faux minions plan an on-air stunt involving any life form not hired as human by NewsCorp.

After that fiasco, why Rupert Murdoch himself hasn't tackled Glenn Beck to floor in the Faux Noise corridors, to personally afix that pink slip to that hystrionic numskull's forehead before ordering security to bum-rush his stupid hiney off their premises, is simply stunning. Surely, Rupert Murdoch realizes that wrecklessly ginning up reactionary lunatics and right-winged loons with these crass claims of Obama disenfranchisement can have dangerous consequences beyond the deaths of frogs.

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ThePantaloon.com
Posted by: ThePantaloon.com on Sep 24, 2009 11:49 AM   
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Beck is a schizophrenic loser who thinks he can tell a joke about Tiger while offering serious critiques of Wilson. And then throw in Hitler on the list below 4 other people...

Did Fox just pull this guy out of an asylum?

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» RE: ThePantaloon.com Posted by: LANCE
Beck doesn't fit the concept of a "loser."
Posted by: Changling on Sep 24, 2009 11:53 AM   
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Indeed he fits the concept of a "winner" from multiple book deals (on the best sellers lists) to a TV and radio show on coast-to-coast so he isn't a failure in the present context.

But it shows just how grotesque things have been distorted that he could become a winner and people like ourselves are the losers. Disheartening indeed.

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RE: Alternet disappoints
Posted by: dimityrose on Sep 24, 2009 11:55 AM   
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Once again why must we hear about such a list or generate interest in this book. Oh surprise, it contains horrors. I am glad you bought it to read,because beck and the federal reserve are laughing all the way to the bank. Stupid is as Stupid does and those who follow, or are too curious, to be able to control their impulses add to the campaign. Everyone who reprints a single word that beck prints or says is as guilty as him.

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Much as I dislike
Posted by: Archie1954 on Sep 24, 2009 1:26 PM   
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the man and his politics he does have some humor. Adding Tiger Williams shows he has a lighter side to his rantings and ravings.

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Tiger Woods
Posted by: randyf on Sep 24, 2009 4:10 PM   
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I'll tell you why Woods is on Beck's list--the REAL reason--is that he's black (or at least not ENTIRELY white) and his wife is white. It's the most obvious racism in the world and the most "horrendous" sin in the racist world: black men marrying blonde white women.

All of which is to say that we now have Beck as an idiot on an entirely new level.

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I dont think he realises who Wilson's opposition was.
Posted by: zola77 on Sep 24, 2009 6:38 PM   
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Did I read correctly? He has a problem with Wilson for arresting people who were opposed to the US entering WW1?

Does he realise that almost all of those people were members of the communist party, scoialist party, anarchists and trade unionists?

I think he might revise his opinions if he knew the ideologies of those arrested. Otherwise he would include W as a bad person for locking up grannies who wore t-shirts against the Iraq war.

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Crafty,crafty
Posted by: whiteray on Sep 25, 2009 12:17 AM   
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Beck should be able to admire the craftiness with which Adams constructed the Sedition Act in 1798. It protected from such sedition both the president and the Congress, leaving Vice President Thomas Jefferson out in the cold. (This was during those few years when the second-place finisher in presidential elections took the office of Vice President, an unworkable idea from the start.) Neeedless to say, the legislation itself annoyed Jefferson, as did the fact that his office was not protected from the nasty environment, as folks chose sides for what was expected to be a nasty war between France and England.

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Zaitchik's stories in Salon...
Posted by: montag2 on Sep 25, 2009 12:42 AM   
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... indirectly addresses the root cause of this sort of deficiency in Beck.

Beck became completely absorbed in the business of radio at the age of thirteen, and from then on, he wasn't interested in anything else. He wasn't much of a student in high school, never went to college (except to enroll and promptly drop out of one course at Yale which none other than Joe Lieberman helped him get into).

When he finally came out of the haze he'd been in for a decade, he started looking for some intellectual and spiritual grounding, and he simply latched onto six or seven books, one of which was Skousen's.

Given that background, it's no wonder that his understanding of the world, history and politics would be both deficient and radically skewed. It would be like being locked up in a room for years with nothing but a short stack of Classics Illustrated Comics and Mein Kampf. Impossible for one to even remotely consider him even a middling sort of autodidact with that background.

Too, Zaitchik paints a pretty interesting picture of his basic meanness and a sense of humor that depends upon the petty and the malicious, and how he brought that with him from "morning zoo" radio to talk radio.

There should be no expectation that anything Beck has to say about history or politics is in any way grounded in scholarship, since he has none of which to boast. But, face it--the people buying his books likely have even less historical sense than does he, but, lists such as the one Maloy recounts are simply assembled, rather hastily, for shock value out of what little he knows--the tendency is just a legacy of his zoo radio days.

Beck could be described, I suppose, as a much more badly-educated version of Sarah Palin. But, since the right wing--and particularly the religious right wing--has reveled in its anti-intellectual tradition for decades, it's no surprise that Beck surfaces in the midst of that muck spouting this sort of drivel.

There's no doubt that the fundamentally churlish and oafish Beck will continue being a wellspring of wonderment and amusement. My only fear is that if Petraeus becomes our times' James Mattoon Scott, Beck will be only too happy to be his bad sushi version of Harold McPherson.

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If you take...
Posted by: slayer2369 on Sep 26, 2009 11:22 AM   
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"Tiger Woods" and "golf" and substitute it with "Tom Brady" and "football" would Brady make Glenn's list?

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Who didn't make the list.
Posted by: slayer2369 on Sep 26, 2009 11:31 AM   
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The Roosevelts, Olbermann and Tiger make the list. Who didn't? Let's see...Genghis Khan, Josef Stalin, Idi Amin, Vlad The Impaler, Napoleon, Torquemada, Ivan The Terrible, Leopold II, Dick Cheney (I couldn't resist :D )...the list goes on and on.

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