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White House Browbeats Dem Freshmen on War Money: 'You'll Never Hear From Us Again'

Posted by Ryan Grim, Huffington Post at 12:02 PM on June 12, 2009.


The White House is playing hardball with Democrats who intend to vote against the supplemental war spending bill.

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The White House is playing hardball with Democrats who intend to vote against the supplemental war spending bill, threatening freshmen who oppose it that they won't get help with reelection and will be cut off from the White House, Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.) said Friday.

"We're not going to help you. You'll never hear from us again," Woolsey said the White House is telling freshmen. She wouldn't say who is issuing the threats, and the White House didn't immediately return a call. Woolsey said she herself had not been pressured because the White House and leadership know she's a firm no vote. But she had heard from other members about the White House pressure.

"Nancy's working with it. It's going to be a very close vote," Rep. Jack Murtha (D-Penn.), a close ally of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Friday. "We don't have any Republican leeway, so far we have no Republican going to vote for it."

"We'll pass it, but it'll be a close vote. Every vote will count," Murtha said.

Woolsey and Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) are both ardent opponents of the war and no friends of the IMF, which is in line for a $100 billion extension of credit in the same bill. Both pointed out that the Democratic leadership didn't bring the bill up for a vote on Friday, indicating they weren't confident they had the votes.

 

"It says something that this hasn't been brought up yet," Kucinich said. "I will tell you there's a good number of members holding solid. That's why this thing hasn't passed yet."

Kucinich said he's whipping the 51 Democrats who previously voted against the war funding and also whipping Democrats who have voted against the IMF in the past. He said that tremendous pressure was being exerted on the folks leaning against it.

"This is politics, you know, there's a lot of pressure put on members," he said. "But from what I can see, people are concerned that when they go back home, they're going to have to explain why they voted for the war if their constituency's opposed to it. People who have consistently opposed the war are going to have difficulty explaining why they switched."

"There are a lot of progressives who don't like the IMF," said Woolsey. Kucinich is making the case to colleagues that the IMF loan is merely a backdoor bailout of European banks.

Woolsey, a former head of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, said she held a meeting earlier this week among Democrats opposing the package but is not actively whipping against it.

The GOP is also objecting to the inclusion of IMF money in the war bill. Kucinich recalled that the last time progressive Democrats joined with Republicans to defeat a Democratic agenda item came in 1999, when 26 Democrats sided with Republicans to block President Clinton's continuing bombing of Serbia.

"Republicans had their own agenda," recalled Kucinich.

The White House may be forced to drop the IMF provision and fight for it another day, but it's a top administration priority.

"That may happen," said Kucinich. "But as long as it's in there, it's a force that's moving in the direction of defeat of the bill."

Jeff Muskus contributed reporting

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Is this finally the beginning of a real anti-war movement
Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Jun 12, 2009 1:09 PM   
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AKA 'peace'?

Wow, that would be really exciting. This is fantastic news, I hope it is the White House that loses this one. They ran on an anti-war platform and that apparently was a total lie.

Congress never did OK the wars, they are illegal and every new appropriation makes it that much worse. What we need to do now is leave, as quickly as possible.

Maybe Obama needs to learn Colbert Nation rules. Declare victory and go home, it is the only way to win a war. Victory has been declared, the justification for funding the war is over. I am glad Congress is finally getting the message from the people.

We don't want war!

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As for me...
Posted by: Longdream on Jun 12, 2009 3:56 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I have been waiting to see a Democratic Majority with a strong White House able to get things done for DECADES.

The Administration also spoke strongly to Republicans, admonishing them not to play politics when survival issues are on the table.

I'm loving this.

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» Are they in custody yet? Posted by: godsbreath64
» RE: As for me... Posted by: progressive-life
"Federal" [non]Reserve at ready to create money for wars
Posted by: whole2th on Jun 13, 2009 7:03 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
With Congressional vote, all the money the military industrial media complex could want for war is created electronically by the "Federal" [non]Reserve fiat currency system--and We, the People are 'responsible' to pay the debts created by this group of "robber class" beguiling elites.

How grave can the consequences of stopping this maddness of fiat currency creation to prosecute Anglo-American-Israeli Empire be? Just ask the real evil doers who committed 9/11. Dirty nukes in San Francisco and LA next? Stampede the sheeple to give up the rest of our Constitution for a "continuity of Constitutional goverance (sic) as described by Bush in Presidential Directive 51?

False flags and big lies.

9/11 was an inside job. So was the '93 WTC bombing. So was Oklahoma City bombing.

Problem, reaction solution all orchestrated to stampede sheeple and tighten the grip of debt enslavement by the robber class.

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War no more
Posted by: willymack on Jun 13, 2009 11:01 AM   
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Why ARE the "wars" in Iraq and Afghanistan dragging on? Didn't Obama run on an anti-war ticket? Is my memory faulty? Is Obama getting a piece of the action? The President must be aware of the growing suspicion and impatience of those who supported him through the protracted campaign, so why doesn't he merely come out and say "the funding for the wars will not continue", rather than browbeating others to support further funding of the ten billion dollar a month disasters? The ONLY ones who desire these brutal occupations to continue are those profiting from them. Are YOU one of these, Mr. President?

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» RE: War no more Posted by: progressive-life
Hmmmm... I wonder...
Posted by: Quannah on Jun 13, 2009 12:48 PM   
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"We're not going to help you. You'll never hear from us again," Woolsey said the White House is telling freshmen. She wouldn't say who is issuing the threats..."

My bet is on Rahm Emmanuel. He was, we recall, the DCCC Chairman when he was in the House, responsible for getting Democrats elected to Congress.

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» RE: Hmmmm... I wonder... Posted by: Longdream
» RE: Hmmmm... I wonder... Posted by: left_witch
» Dammit... Posted by: Quannah
» RE: Dammit... Posted by: Longdream
» RE: Dammit... Posted by: Quannah
» RE: Dammit... Posted by: Longdream
» RE: Dammit... Posted by: Quannah
» RE: Dammit... Posted by: Longdream
» RE: Dammit... Posted by: Quannah
» RE: Hmmmm... I wonder... Posted by: Longdream
» RE: Hmmmm... I wonder... Posted by: Quannah
» RE: Hmmmm... I wonder... Posted by: Aquinas
» RE: Hmmmm... I wonder... Posted by: Longdream
» RE: Hmmmm... I wonder... Posted by: Basenjis
» RE: Hmmmm... I wonder... Posted by: Quannah
He should be browbeating Dems concerning
Posted by: harpy on Jun 13, 2009 1:31 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Cap and Trade, Real health care reform (single-payer), closing Guantanamo, etc.

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» What?! Posted by: photon's feather
Call this bluff... he needs them more then they need him
Posted by: Bearzerker on Jun 13, 2009 4:06 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
cutting off support!...
I'm a retired vet but this war is just wrong... their is always another way... afganistan is historically a sync for foreigners... in lives and money...

what Usama Bin Laden did on 9-11 was a criminal act and you cant declare WAR on 1 person... so the Neo-Cons did what they do best... spined it to political advantage and spent their way into a second term... they declared war on a nation that was already in the gripe of a civil war? then they blamed Madman Hussein for the same thing they blamed Usama for...

what a freak show the last presidency was...
Is this Obama Administration going to do something right for a change and end this charade or is it going to maintain the status quo?

WTF???... how stupid do they in Washington think we are anyways!!!

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History may not repeat itself, but it does rhyme a lot
Posted by: cdmsr on Jun 13, 2009 10:43 PM   
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A quote from Mark Twain.

Anyone out there who is unfamiliar with the work of Kevin Phillips, I urge you to become so.

Mr. Phillips wrote "The Emerging Republican Majority" (1969). His Conservative bona fides were impeccable but he dropped out, so to speak, in protest to the elevation of the Bush family and became a registered Independent.

He wrote "American Dynasty: Aristocracy, Fortune, and the Politics of Deceit in the House of Bush" published in 2004. It is undoubtedly the most damning chronicle of the Bush dynasty going back generations.

Many of his books, however, focus on the intersections of politics and money, in particular the role finance plays in national politics and the decline of Great Powers.

What does this have to do with the subject at hand, you ask?

In "Wealth and Democracy" (2002) Phillips lays out the imbalances of wealth accumulation in the US and the world in clear yet painstaking detail. He shows the undeniable connections between war, government favoritism and corruption in the paramount fortunes in our history, up to the present.

An example:

Page 50, Chart 2.1, The Great American Fortunes 1901-1914,lists 30 large wealth-Holders divided into six groups. In the fourth group, in 2nd and 3rd place,are Andrew and Richard Mellon with $100,000,000 each.

Page 59, Chart 2.5, Top 14 Federal Income Taxpayers, 1924:
Andrew Mellon paid taxes on a declared worth of $1,883,000. (Andrew was eatimated to be the third or fourth wealthiest man in the country. He was also Warren G. Harding's Sec. of Treasury.)

Page 72, Chart 2.7 Top Thirty Wealth Concentrations of the 1930s:
No. 4 is Mellon family (3 tax returns [persons]) Max Est. Fortune: $1,000,000,000.

Page 80, Chart 2.9, 25 Richest Families and Individuals, 1957
FIRST PLACE: The Mellon Family, $1.6 to $2.8 Billion


Page 85, Chart 2.10, 30 Richest Americans and Families, 1964
1st Place, Mellon Family, $1.9 to 3.6 Billion

Page 90, Chart 2.11, 30 Richest Families and Individuals 1982
Seventh Place, Mellon-Scaife Families, 41.6 billion (Note the "Mellon-Scaife." Ain't it beautiful whrn money finds love?)

And last chart:

Page 94, Chart 2.12, Richest Familie and Individuals 1992

7th Place, Mellon-Scaife, $5.6 billion.

Anyone still puzzled as to the purpose of my laying out this information shoul Google Richard Mellon-Scaife. You will learn the role the chroncled fortune has played in fighting progressive action in this country for decades. A paranoid dipsomaniac has poured the accumulated inherited monies of many decades into conservative, right wing, neocon efforts from Ken Starr to Swiftboaters to owning newspapers to who-knows-what.

And this is the tip of the iceberg that can be gleaned from the recommended book.

It also shows the Federal Reserve's actions under a bright light listing unwarranted bailouts throughout the past 30 years. It shows the imbalance between military and social program budgets.

And on and on. . .

I am not affiliated with Mr Phillips or his publisher. I am simply asking people who care about this country to go to the library and check out this book. It is over 400 pages of the most frightening, enlightening, infuriating information you will ever read.

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Utterly insane level of "defense" spending is threat to national security
Posted by: Garvagh on Jun 14, 2009 4:36 PM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Important story. Why should scores more billions of dollars be flushed down the Iraq loo? Time for US to get all troops (including the tens of thousands of mercenaries) out of the country, and let the Iraqis work out how to run their own country. Obama should be obtaining help from Syria and Iran to bring stability to Iraq in the context of a total US withdrawal.

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